RE: Honda NSX: Spotted
Discussion
Shiv_P said:
If that was how the car market worked then things would be very different
Why would you buy a cayman for £5k when you can buy a mk1 mx5 and turbo it to 250bhp for £3.5k
That's a bit different though. A standard 986 Boxster S is very well regarded and will give you a similar driving experience to a NSX. It's got the same layout, the same sized engine producing similar power in a similar manner, and weighs about the same.Why would you buy a cayman for £5k when you can buy a mk1 mx5 and turbo it to 250bhp for £3.5k
A £60k NSX only makes sense to a collector/speculator who isn't going to ruin the value by actually driving it.
I bought mine in 2001 for £17k, although it was LHD.
Sold it in 2006 for c.£25k, although it went to Denmark.
So much more useable and nice to drive compared to the Ferraris etc of the day. Although the 968CS I replaced it with pissed on it, tbh.
Wish I still had it though now that they are £50k plus!!
BTW, saw a new one on the road for the first time last week, a blue on near Ramsgate, and it looked very nice on the road indeed.
Sold it in 2006 for c.£25k, although it went to Denmark.
So much more useable and nice to drive compared to the Ferraris etc of the day. Although the 968CS I replaced it with pissed on it, tbh.
Wish I still had it though now that they are £50k plus!!
BTW, saw a new one on the road for the first time last week, a blue on near Ramsgate, and it looked very nice on the road indeed.
CaptainRAVE said:
Supercar, no. Ferrari copy/wannabe, yes.
I guess the Ferrari 348 wasn't a supercar either then seeing as it had more or less the same performance and similar style?Or did the NSX not break down often enough to be a supercar?
Edited by GravelBen on Monday 30th April 09:33
ringsound said:
Iamnotkloot said:
They’ve aged well, but I still don’t think of it as a supercar.....
NSX is a great car representing one of the brightest era of motoring industry, but i agree i don't think it is remotely close to a supercar. It is a great traditional Japanese sport car like the Skyline GT-R, RX-7, Supra, Evo, WRX STI, Silvia etc, but far from F355, Diablo etcSat in traffic behind one of these for a few minutes last week and I was amazed at how much lower and wider they look in person. They look no less special than the Ferraris that are always mentioned in the same sentence. All this talk of better badges is very silly. Brand snobbery at its finest.
I do agree that the article is nothing new, but when a car is this age and its history is so well reported I'm not sure what you could dig up that would actually be interesting.
I do agree that the article is nothing new, but when a car is this age and its history is so well reported I'm not sure what you could dig up that would actually be interesting.
GingerPixel said:
Sat in traffic behind one of these for a few minutes last week and I was amazed at how much lower and wider they look in person. They look no less special than the Ferraris that are always mentioned in the same sentence. All this talk of better badges is very silly. Brand snobbery at its finest.
One problem with the NSX is that it doesn't seem to photograph very well. There's not a low of wow factor tacked onto it to translate into wow in a picture. But see one right there in front of you and there's a lot more presence - lower and wider than what you'd expect and with a good amount of presence.I always wanted one of these. All this debate about 'supercar' or not - if there was a supercar-lite territory then I suppose the NSX would fall in this category. A small naturally-aspirated V6 engine isn't really supercar territory, but everything else about the car is supercar. It was used as the benchmark for future supercars, so ergo, it is a supercar or prototype.
mariscalcus said:
So, because a F355 has a Ferrari badge it is automatically a "supercar"? And because an NSX has a Honda badge it is not? How simplistic? Have you driven either? I have (and currently bought the latter which I still own) and it runs rings round the F355. Another typical punter who buys the badge not the car. And, people let you out at junctions - they never do that in a Ferrari.
I use to live in japan, and i am fortunate enough to have a friend let me try his NA-1, I have also driven R32, i used to own a S15 and getting a FD nowI am a fan of Honda and many Japanese sport car, I love the EP3 i use to have, and I absolutely love, the NSX handle very well, exciting to drive. and it have cutting edge technology of its time. Many review even say it is better than ZR-1 and 348
yes the badge matter, i am never a fan of ferrari or lambo, but their badge worth a fortune, unfortunately this is how the world running now, ask a non car guy, they will "wow" a ferrari, a lambo or Aston Martin. Why do you think why are so many audi A1, MB A class and 1 series everywhere, in many cases it is more the badge than the car itself
you can buy a shirt in ASDA for less than 10, and it would become 20 or even 30 in newlook
to me I will pick a NSX-R any time over any ferrari, but a badge is a badge, not to mention the famous BMW "poo" meme
and furthermore, i dont think it matter how other people view your car, you bought it because you love it
when I bought my EP3, people have an impression of ricer car, and the FD have poor choice of engine in some people view, but it doesn't matter, i bought it simply because i love how it drive and how much fun it give me
Edited by ringsound on Monday 30th April 12:28
ringsound said:
yes the badge matter, i am never a fan of ferrari or lambo, but their badge worth a fortune, unfortunately this is how the world running now, ask a non car guy, they will "wow" a ferrari, a lambo or Aston Martin.
Except opinions of non-car guys or girls don't define a supercar. A non-car might not recognise or tell the difference between a McLaren 570S and a Honda NSX 2017 either - doesn't exclude them from the supercar league. As for comparing Honda to ASDA, well if ASDA made competitive F1 engines (pole-position in their earlier years, if not so nowadays) then you might have a point ...I have a few - you may guess from the username I'm a bit of a fan.
Here's the latest
This is the original one (pop up, but a later one with the 3.2 6 Speed)
Don't have any recent pictures of the race car on this computer, but below is one that gives an example of just how low they are as you can see compared to a 993 GT2.
It's something you don't appreciate unless in the flesh - it's lower than a Lotus Elise. It can also be made light - 1000kg is not out of reach and that's with a cage in. The difficult is getting parts; development costs are huge, unlike a Porsche which you can pluck bits off a shelf.
I think last year EVO recently rated the NSX above a Cayman GT4 for overall experience. Even I was surprised by that, but I certainly of course think they are great cars. I have had GT3s etc. and always come back to the NSX. Driving one today is a wonderful analogue experience (ironic given the ridiculous story that seems to have stuck that they are lacking character). It's also a very personal experience - to hear it you need to close the windows and enjoy the induction noise. Unlike modern cars with their exhaust flaps and sound generators, you have to dial yourself in. I find it tremendously rewarding to drive.
Here's the latest
This is the original one (pop up, but a later one with the 3.2 6 Speed)
Don't have any recent pictures of the race car on this computer, but below is one that gives an example of just how low they are as you can see compared to a 993 GT2.
It's something you don't appreciate unless in the flesh - it's lower than a Lotus Elise. It can also be made light - 1000kg is not out of reach and that's with a cage in. The difficult is getting parts; development costs are huge, unlike a Porsche which you can pluck bits off a shelf.
I think last year EVO recently rated the NSX above a Cayman GT4 for overall experience. Even I was surprised by that, but I certainly of course think they are great cars. I have had GT3s etc. and always come back to the NSX. Driving one today is a wonderful analogue experience (ironic given the ridiculous story that seems to have stuck that they are lacking character). It's also a very personal experience - to hear it you need to close the windows and enjoy the induction noise. Unlike modern cars with their exhaust flaps and sound generators, you have to dial yourself in. I find it tremendously rewarding to drive.
Edited by hondansx on Monday 30th April 12:50
fido said:
Except opinions of non-car guys or girls don't define a supercar. A non-car might not recognise or tell the difference between a McLaren 570S and a Honda NSX 2017 either - doesn't exclude them from the supercar league. As for comparing Honda to ASDA, well if ASDA made competitive F1 engines (pole-position in their earlier years, if not so nowadays) then you might have a point ...
just like my VFR, it was the product of Honda cutting edge technology of its time, but i m sure it will be 5 times more expensive if it got a mv agusta badge on it. Sad?yes. Simplistic?yes. let just agree that we all have our own standard definition, no point on debating thisand I think we all agree it is one of the best car from japan in those 90s, and we are fortunate that it give you are great driving fun with less than half the price of a lambo or ferrari
hondansx said:
I have a few - you may guess from the username I'm a bit of a fan.
Here's the latest
I think last year EVO recently rated a the NSX above a Cayman GT4 for overall experience. Even I was surprised by that, but I certainly of course think they are great ones. I have had GT3s etc. and always come back to the NSX. Driving one today is a wonderful analogue experience (ironic given the ridiculous story that seems to have stuck that they are lacking character). It's also a very personal experience - to hear it you need to close the windows and enjoy the induction noise. Unlike modern cars with their exhaust flaps and sound generators, you have to dial yourself in. I find it tremendously rewarding to drive.
it is a very nice car, and you have kept it in very good conditionHere's the latest
I think last year EVO recently rated a the NSX above a Cayman GT4 for overall experience. Even I was surprised by that, but I certainly of course think they are great ones. I have had GT3s etc. and always come back to the NSX. Driving one today is a wonderful analogue experience (ironic given the ridiculous story that seems to have stuck that they are lacking character). It's also a very personal experience - to hear it you need to close the windows and enjoy the induction noise. Unlike modern cars with their exhaust flaps and sound generators, you have to dial yourself in. I find it tremendously rewarding to drive.
yeah, the Vtec high rev is intoxicating
am i the only one who prefer the pop up headlight in NA-1, i found it very beautiful, perfect match for the elegant bodyline
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