RE: Honda NSX: Spotted
Discussion
James Junior said:
It's a real sledge hammer of a car and as you say, torque is everywhere. Agree completely about the higher part of the rev range - I could hardly find enough room to use much of the second turbo last night. Most of the drive was spent on a partial throttle surfing the mid range and short shifting. Hope you are enjoying yours. 
Thanks mate, i have had my car like 4 years already and i have driven 40 thousand miles. Luckily for me, i know people with high hp Supra's and they are very nice cars. HP numbers are 400hp, 650hp and 1000hp+. I have to say that 400hp Supra is the sweetspot and i wouldn't personally go to single turbo route. I hope that you can gel with your car, because it is a real warhorse from the past when driving too fast wasn't that big crime. Supra want's to go fast, it doesn't have any other driving modes so it does get bored when cruising like 60mph..... Very good car for the long distance driving tho. Do you have a Reader's Car -thread?I actually considered turboing my car this spring but desided to stay in N.A-form for more hp. For the street 250-300 old-school horses is more than enough but you can still use them regularly. So i think i know why this Honda NSX is so damn sweet ride for this day and age....
samoht said:
big_rob_sydney said:
More simply then; I'm disappointed because it seems like a case of more show than go.
It's less than 7% behind the Ferrari 348 on power/weight - would you say the same about the Italian car? And the Honda is 11% ahead of the contemporary 911 Carrera 2. In 1990 when it launched, the NSX was entirely competitive with its European rivals in a straight line.By all means try to throw in ancient "marques" to justify whatever you think you're justifying. Any half decent hatch today will show this deadbeat a clean pair of heels.
I suppose you still have the "VTEC YO!" crew to make you feel better. Shame all it ever did was increase the volume with about a 0.01% increase in performance...
big_rob_sydney said:
By all means try to throw in ancient "marques" to justify whatever you think you're justifying. Any half decent hatch today will show this deadbeat a clean pair of heels.
I suppose you still have the "VTEC YO!" crew to make you feel better. Shame all it ever did was increase the volume with about a 0.01% increase in performance...
I guess you missed my video from Silverstone above? ;-) I suppose you still have the "VTEC YO!" crew to make you feel better. Shame all it ever did was increase the volume with about a 0.01% increase in performance...
I love this review of the NSX against the Ferrari 355. The NSX sounds glorious in this review. I believe it has an aftermarket exhaust. It just evokes so much emotion listening to the sound coming from it. In relation to some of the comments here, absolutely no way could I choose any modern hot hatch over this NSX regardless of power. The irony of all this power craze in modern cars is that they are generating more power than the owners will ever need whilst the roads are being littered with speed cameras everywhere, more than ever before. Would make some sense if we all commuted daily on the autobahn...... and what percentage of drivers actually take their cars to the track to exploit its full potential? A lot of it just seems pointless to me unless you're actually using these "boosted" cars to their full potential. I'll leave you to enjoy the video! 😊
https://youtu.be/GoFRDyeHHcI
https://youtu.be/GoFRDyeHHcI
Paul,
My last 50 or so track days were aboard a modified literbike. I soon lose interest in compromised roadcars attempting the same thing.
Koolcat,
The 1990 NSX had a whopping 270 bhp. Even the humble 2018 Toyota Camry boasts more power.
Imagine, that so very beige car company, with one of its most beige products, having more power than an NSX. You have OAPs towing caravans in a utilitarian vehicle, which has more power than the car you're swooning over.
And lets not forget, that 270 bhp figure is from 28 years ago. Compression notwithstanding, I'd be surprised if it had enough power to pull the skin off a banana these days.
No autobahns, and no tracks in sight. Just OAPs driving their retirement chariot. With more power than the "supercar"... what a joke.
Honestly, try looking past the low swoopy looks. MR2's are also low. No one gives a s
t about them either.
My last 50 or so track days were aboard a modified literbike. I soon lose interest in compromised roadcars attempting the same thing.
Koolcat,
The 1990 NSX had a whopping 270 bhp. Even the humble 2018 Toyota Camry boasts more power.
Imagine, that so very beige car company, with one of its most beige products, having more power than an NSX. You have OAPs towing caravans in a utilitarian vehicle, which has more power than the car you're swooning over.
And lets not forget, that 270 bhp figure is from 28 years ago. Compression notwithstanding, I'd be surprised if it had enough power to pull the skin off a banana these days.
No autobahns, and no tracks in sight. Just OAPs driving their retirement chariot. With more power than the "supercar"... what a joke.
Honestly, try looking past the low swoopy looks. MR2's are also low. No one gives a s
t about them either.Edited by big_rob_sydney on Wednesday 2nd May 19:05
big_rob_sydney said:
Paul,
My last 50 or so track days were aboard a modified literbike. I soon lose interest in compromised roadcars attempting the same thing.
Koolcat,
The 1990 NSX had a whopping 270 bhp. When you try to frame it as though the discussion is several hundred bhp more in orders of magnitude, I respectfully must disagree with you. Even the humble 2018 Toyota Camry boasts more power.
Imagine, that so very beige car company, with one of its most beige products, having more power than an NSX. You have OAPs towing caravans in a utilitarian vehicle, which has more power than the car you're swooning over.
And lets not forget, that 270 bhp figure is from 28 years ago. Compression notwithstanding, I'd be surprised if it had enough power to pull the skin off a banana these days.
Honestly, try looking past the low swoopy looks. MR2's are also low. No one gives a st about them either.
It's perfectly OK by me if you're into bhp figures. For me, that's not what defines whether I like a car or not. It's more about its engineering, aesthetics, history and the feelings and emotions it conveys. To some, a car is just a functional object as required, status symbol or one for bragging rights. A car to me is more like a piece of artwork to view and understand, appreciate and admire. If a Camry was a lovely piece of artwork, I'll love it too but unfortunately it isn't so I'll stick with the NSX with its lesser bhp but more relatable to what I look for in a car. My last 50 or so track days were aboard a modified literbike. I soon lose interest in compromised roadcars attempting the same thing.
Koolcat,
The 1990 NSX had a whopping 270 bhp. When you try to frame it as though the discussion is several hundred bhp more in orders of magnitude, I respectfully must disagree with you. Even the humble 2018 Toyota Camry boasts more power.
Imagine, that so very beige car company, with one of its most beige products, having more power than an NSX. You have OAPs towing caravans in a utilitarian vehicle, which has more power than the car you're swooning over.
And lets not forget, that 270 bhp figure is from 28 years ago. Compression notwithstanding, I'd be surprised if it had enough power to pull the skin off a banana these days.
Honestly, try looking past the low swoopy looks. MR2's are also low. No one gives a s
t about them either.I accept we all can't appreciate the same things otherwise life would be boring and so, the different choices available to one is what makes it exciting.........and don't get me wrong, I'm equally fascinated by how well modern car engineering has advanced and can equally get excited by how much bhp you can generate these days from a little 1.0 Litre Ford Fiesta 3 cylinder turbo with eco boost
! Edited by Koolkat969 on Wednesday 2nd May 20:00
big_rob_sydney said:
I was never excited about the 348, and even today on FerrariChat they joke about its handling. As for the C2, who cares? It's nothing but a squashed beetle with a middling amount of power, and back then the turbos wanted to throw you through a hedge backwards on a good day, telling us that its handling was unresolved due to the engine being so far back.
By all means try to throw in ancient "marques" to justify whatever you think you're justifying. Any half decent hatch today will show this deadbeat a clean pair of heels.
I suppose you still have the "VTEC YO!" crew to make you feel better. Shame all it ever did was increase the volume with about a 0.01% increase in performance...
What a bizarre, aggressive post!By all means try to throw in ancient "marques" to justify whatever you think you're justifying. Any half decent hatch today will show this deadbeat a clean pair of heels.
I suppose you still have the "VTEC YO!" crew to make you feel better. Shame all it ever did was increase the volume with about a 0.01% increase in performance...
I've already compared it my Huracan Performante. I've also got a 730bhp Audi RS6, and don't get out of the NSX thinking it's slow.
And, as others have said, straight line speed doesn't define a good car. Cars will always get faster.
big_rob_sydney said:
Paul,
My last 50 or so track days were aboard a modified literbike. I soon lose interest in compromised roadcars attempting the same thing.
Koolcat,
The 1990 NSX had a whopping 270 bhp. Even the humble 2018 Toyota Camry boasts more power.
Imagine, that so very beige car company, with one of its most beige products, having more power than an NSX. You have OAPs towing caravans in a utilitarian vehicle, which has more power than the car you're swooning over.
And lets not forget, that 270 bhp figure is from 28 years ago. Compression notwithstanding, I'd be surprised if it had enough power to pull the skin off a banana these days.
No autobahns, and no tracks in sight. Just OAPs driving their retirement chariot. With more power than the "supercar"... what a joke.
Honestly, try looking past the low swoopy looks. MR2's are also low. No one gives a st about them either.
This must be one of the most idiotic posts in PH history.My last 50 or so track days were aboard a modified literbike. I soon lose interest in compromised roadcars attempting the same thing.
Koolcat,
The 1990 NSX had a whopping 270 bhp. Even the humble 2018 Toyota Camry boasts more power.
Imagine, that so very beige car company, with one of its most beige products, having more power than an NSX. You have OAPs towing caravans in a utilitarian vehicle, which has more power than the car you're swooning over.
And lets not forget, that 270 bhp figure is from 28 years ago. Compression notwithstanding, I'd be surprised if it had enough power to pull the skin off a banana these days.
No autobahns, and no tracks in sight. Just OAPs driving their retirement chariot. With more power than the "supercar"... what a joke.
Honestly, try looking past the low swoopy looks. MR2's are also low. No one gives a s
t about them either.Edited by big_rob_sydney on Wednesday 2nd May 19:05
Wanted to reply to this thread ages back as most of you are plonkers. But instead, I just find it quite funny that Jethro said he would rather have the Nsx R over an F40 in his last Nsx R video....
If you havn't driven one not sure how you can comment. I am lucky enough to own 1 of 3 Na2 Nsr's in the uk and am blown away by it. Far from a garage queen, its been around Spa a few times. Lap times are similar to my 997 Gt3.
My other Nsx stands at 170k miles on the orginal clutch with no rebuilds. Sometimes its not about 0 to 60s or which car is louder
If you havn't driven one not sure how you can comment. I am lucky enough to own 1 of 3 Na2 Nsr's in the uk and am blown away by it. Far from a garage queen, its been around Spa a few times. Lap times are similar to my 997 Gt3.
My other Nsx stands at 170k miles on the orginal clutch with no rebuilds. Sometimes its not about 0 to 60s or which car is louder
mjames75 said:
Wanted to reply to this thread ages back as most of you are plonkers. But instead, I just find it quite funny that Jethro said he would rather have the Nsx R over an F40 in his last Nsx R video....
If you havn't driven one not sure how you can comment. I am lucky enough to own 1 of 3 Na2 Nsr's in the uk and am blown away by it. Far from a garage queen, its been around Spa a few times. Lap times are similar to my 997 Gt3.
My other Nsx stands at 170k miles on the orginal clutch with no rebuilds. Sometimes its not about 0 to 60s or which car is louder
What bearing does clutch life have on whether a car is good/fun or not? If you havn't driven one not sure how you can comment. I am lucky enough to own 1 of 3 Na2 Nsr's in the uk and am blown away by it. Far from a garage queen, its been around Spa a few times. Lap times are similar to my 997 Gt3.
My other Nsx stands at 170k miles on the orginal clutch with no rebuilds. Sometimes its not about 0 to 60s or which car is louder
mrfunex said:
mjames75 said:
Wanted to reply to this thread ages back as most of you are plonkers. But instead, I just find it quite funny that Jethro said he would rather have the Nsx R over an F40 in his last Nsx R video....
If you havn't driven one not sure how you can comment. I am lucky enough to own 1 of 3 Na2 Nsr's in the uk and am blown away by it. Far from a garage queen, its been around Spa a few times. Lap times are similar to my 997 Gt3.
My other Nsx stands at 170k miles on the orginal clutch with no rebuilds. Sometimes its not about 0 to 60s or which car is louder
What bearing does clutch life have on whether a car is good/fun or not? If you havn't driven one not sure how you can comment. I am lucky enough to own 1 of 3 Na2 Nsr's in the uk and am blown away by it. Far from a garage queen, its been around Spa a few times. Lap times are similar to my 997 Gt3.
My other Nsx stands at 170k miles on the orginal clutch with no rebuilds. Sometimes its not about 0 to 60s or which car is louder
mjames75 said:
Well.it shows build quality. 10 points for a great comment.
It's probably about 10x the life span of the average Ferrari clutchI've been a huge of the NSX since seeing one at the motorshow in the NEC circa 1993, as a result a red NA1 with pop ups would be my ideal car. One of my regrets is not buying one a decade ago. Instead I bought a house and from what I can tell a NSX has increased in value more than my property!
I can't understand how people will argue it is anything less than a supercar, From 1989 it looked like a supercar, had a mid engine rwd setup like the very best supercars, had a V6 engine with 270hp, sub 6 second to 60 an high 13s quarter of a mile which is the same as it's competitors at the time like the Ferrari 348.
Personally I was never in love with the NSX, but here is a bit of sunday morning porn for the community:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JUVkVB3SUf4
Note the great shoe/sock combo, and remember that awesome drive you had on a sunday morning when you just got up, did not finish your coffee and just put on the first pair you saw and went for a blast. Proper gearbox, pedal dancing skills and the acoustic delight of a precision machine producing perfect harmony.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JUVkVB3SUf4
Note the great shoe/sock combo, and remember that awesome drive you had on a sunday morning when you just got up, did not finish your coffee and just put on the first pair you saw and went for a blast. Proper gearbox, pedal dancing skills and the acoustic delight of a precision machine producing perfect harmony.
mjames75 said:
Wanted to reply to this thread ages back as most of you are plonkers. But instead, I just find it quite funny that Jethro said he would rather have the Nsx R over an F40 in his last Nsx R video....
If you havn't driven one not sure how you can comment. I am lucky enough to own 1 of 3 Na2 Nsr's in the uk and am blown away by it. Far from a garage queen, its been around Spa a few times. Lap times are similar to my 997 Gt3.
My other Nsx stands at 170k miles on the orginal clutch with no rebuilds. Sometimes its not about 0 to 60s or which car is louder
It wasn’t your NSXR at Eurospec in the summer was it?If you havn't driven one not sure how you can comment. I am lucky enough to own 1 of 3 Na2 Nsr's in the uk and am blown away by it. Far from a garage queen, its been around Spa a few times. Lap times are similar to my 997 Gt3.
My other Nsx stands at 170k miles on the orginal clutch with no rebuilds. Sometimes its not about 0 to 60s or which car is louder
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