RE: Shed of the week: Land Rover Discovery V8
Discussion
Jimmy Recard said:
BFleming said:
4 out of the last 5 SOTWs have had 'Made in England' stamped on them, and all have been horrendous, with the possible exception of the Jag. It's worse than those bargain pages of classic car weekly. These are cars that people paid handsomely for when new - the cheapest Discovery was £19249 in 1989. These were cars that people deliberately chose whilst avoiding something much more competent. The Mitsubishi Shogun for example, or even the Isuzu Trooper. I understand that British people buy (or rather bought) British cars to support their domestic industry, in much the same way as French people have allegiance to the majority of domestic dross they produce, the same as the Italians. It must be great being German, getting to both support your own car industry and drive something decent.
This weeks SOTW is a heap, and an even worse heap than when it was new. The engine bay is greasier than a chip pan. The addition of the oversized offroad tyres without the mandatory suspension lift... all a bit half-arsed.
I agree, it’s no BMW 114iThis weeks SOTW is a heap, and an even worse heap than when it was new. The engine bay is greasier than a chip pan. The addition of the oversized offroad tyres without the mandatory suspension lift... all a bit half-arsed.
I digress though. I knew my comments would upset someone... all good though.
Jimmy Recard... didn't your mom call you Paul? ;-)
Edited by BFleming on Saturday 5th May 00:14
Gandahar said:
With all the money you would spend on it you could buy a 700 000 mile Land Cruiser which has just sailed through it's last Mot ....
Pretty much sums it up my attitude to this one. Yeah it's flawed as hell, but everything in the class for this money will either be utterly shagged or pretty ropey from new - W163 M Class, anyone?PistonBroker said:
Jimmy Recard said:
Wasn't CATS an alarm system on the Disco 1?
That's what I thought!Turbobanana said:
CS Garth said:
Whoever designed it had a picture of a Montego van close at hand. Awful but brilliant. C'est la vie. La vie.
There was a Montego Van? Do you mean a Maestro?
https://www.aronline.co.uk/cars/austin/maestro/yem...
2xChevrons said:
PistonBroker said:
Jimmy Recard said:
Wasn't CATS an alarm system on the Disco 1?
That's what I thought!rtz62 said:
2xChevrons said:
PistonBroker said:
Jimmy Recard said:
Wasn't CATS an alarm system on the Disco 1?
That's what I thought!If it had no ACE fluid, ever, you'd have known about it.
First the bright red warning symbol would illuminate on the dash, accompanied by 20 long seconds of loud bonging.
If it was low fluid then they symbol would change to screaming yellow.
If either of these happened the ACE ecu would signal and the bars would hydrolock and function as normal anti roll bars.
If there was no fluid, none, anywhere, then the ACE pump, by virtue of being fluid lubricated, would scream its head off within about 2 miles, lock up, cause the auxiliary belt to visibly smoke (you know with it being rubber) and burn acridly and stall the engine as it grabs the pulley.
You know, subtle things like that.
As for it not being ace, several engineering test videos available now on you tube would again rather strongly disagree.
k that. Stick a dirty great Cummins in there with whopping big turbo on it.
2xChevrons said:
CATS was the adaptive suspension system fitted to Jaguars in the late '90s/200s. It stood for Computer Active Technology Suspension. I think rtz62 meant ACE (Active Cornering Enhancement) which was the hydraulic reactive anti-roll system fitted to high-spec Disco IIs.
But on a Disco 1, it was the alarm system. I can't remember what it stood for but they always had CATS security stickers in the windowsBFleming said:
Someone's been browsing. It's all there though. The 114i is my wife's car, and my 17 year old is learning in it. It serves its purpose in that respect. I did 350 miles in it today, and I keep thinking 'remap'. Jesus H Christ it's so falsely throttled. The F20 replaced a Mini Countryman Cooper SD All4. An awful drivers car, possibly the worst our household has ever endured, with the exception of the 2002 Picasso.
I digress though. I knew my comments would upset someone... all good though.
Jimmy Recard... didn't your mom call you Paul? ;-)
Not upset! I like the 1-Series, but more the M135i and M140i. In the original shape one I like the 130iI digress though. I knew my comments would upset someone... all good though.
Jimmy Recard... didn't your mom call you Paul? ;-)
Edited by BFleming on Saturday 5th May 00:14
Plain old boring old Paul
YellowCar said:
Dad had a similar TDi until recently, run on as much of a shoestring budget as possible, until rust made it uneconomical to put through the MoT.
I don't know what was going on with the suspension, as anything above about 40 mph it went into a kind of 3D shimmy around it's longitudinal axis. Seems it had a preference for demonstrating its off-road ability over staying on the straight and narrow.
Can't really tarnish the model based on one badly-maintained example, but it goes to show that there is a big gap between something with an MoT and something which is actually safe to drive. A gap that would take a lot of cash to bridge...
It was probably the front swivel joints. The bearings go and everything goes wonky.I don't know what was going on with the suspension, as anything above about 40 mph it went into a kind of 3D shimmy around it's longitudinal axis. Seems it had a preference for demonstrating its off-road ability over staying on the straight and narrow.
Can't really tarnish the model based on one badly-maintained example, but it goes to show that there is a big gap between something with an MoT and something which is actually safe to drive. A gap that would take a lot of cash to bridge...
I had one. I came out one day and it had rusted away. All that was left were the plastic number plates.
BFleming said:
Not many people know Drapht in this hemisphere!On the 114i I too would have preferred something with a bit more poke, but it was either that or a Golf 1.4. I'd still choose the F20.
I've never been to Australia, but when it came out an Australian friend sent me that album on CD and told me to try it. I've probably lost the CD since then but it always stuck in my mind as a great song and great forum name
rtz62 said:
As an aside, a near neighbour of mine has a Disco 1, and last summer I saw him under it doing some welding
Moseying over I asked him how it was going and he prudglt showed me the now vacant space where he boot floor had been
The seatbelt anchor points had already been done and I helpfully pointed out the obvious rot around the rear crossmember. And the wheel arches. And the front inner wings. And the front passenger footwell. And the.... you get the picture.
It now sits on his grass verge with the running gear removed awaiting its fate
If you cant weld/want to learn how then you shouldn't have bought one.Moseying over I asked him how it was going and he prudglt showed me the now vacant space where he boot floor had been
The seatbelt anchor points had already been done and I helpfully pointed out the obvious rot around the rear crossmember. And the wheel arches. And the front inner wings. And the front passenger footwell. And the.... you get the picture.
It now sits on his grass verge with the running gear removed awaiting its fate
All common bits to fix and happily the crossmember, boot floor and wheel arches goes at the same time so you can do them all at once. The inner wings give you a few months break between them so you can just do one side first
I've been scrapping mine many times over the past 13 years (including after rolling it) but then you see how cheap the parts are and think its just a few hours fettling, coupled with the fact the wife hates it and suddenly she gets dragged through another MOT.
And come the white stuff in the winter with decent boots on you know you are getting home, once you've picked your way past all the X5s on summer tyres whos' owners are complaining that the BMW AWD system isn't working properly.
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