RE: Ford Fiesta ST200 vs. Peugeot Sport 208 GTI
Discussion
MOBB said:
I had an ST MP215 and adored it, changed it for a M235i and that was a big error
Orange 208 GTI PS arrives Wednesday and I'm genuinely excited, despite owing far faster and more expensive cars
I'm interested to know how the M235i was an error? Would have thought it would be a significant upgrade?Orange 208 GTI PS arrives Wednesday and I'm genuinely excited, despite owing far faster and more expensive cars
Spending that type of money, negotiate you can get an s1. The audi s1 walks all over these two. Ok the kit on both will be superior, but its no point when the engine is nowhere near as good and you are dust on a b road Fine if you like the looks and gadgets, but you will l be dissappointed when alongside an s1 performance wise...and dtuk tune them to 300+bhp also😨
R36vw said:
Spending that type of money, negotiate you can get an s1. The audi s1 walks all over these two. Ok the kit on both will be superior, but its no point when the engine is nowhere near as good and you are dust on a b road Fine if you like the looks and gadgets, but you will l be dissappointed when alongside an s1 performance wise...and dtuk tune them to 300+bhp also??
I'm an ST owner but have driven the S1. A friend had one as a courtesy car and I got the opportunity to give it a blast, without need for mechanical sympathy 
Being 4WD, obviously the 0-60 is much better than an ST and the way you can just dump the clutch and go is a bit of a giggle. However, the package just doesn't compare to the ST in terms of driver involvement or fun, in my opinion. Once you get over the acceleration from a standing start, you're carrying around the extra weight of all the transmission gubbins everywhere, and you can feel that in a small car.
To me, the S1 just felt too sanitised. After over a year of ownership, the ST still goads me to wring it's little neck on every journey. I suspect I would have long since tired of the S1 and convinced myself I needed an S3 or a Golf R to find the rush again...
VeeFource said:
I'm interested to know how the M235i was an error? Would have thought it would be a significant upgrade?
Great engine, sat nav, wobbly handlingNot in the same league if you want a fun to drive car imo
Horses for courses though I just love small mischievous cars nowadays rather than German stuff
DanielSan said:
Peugeot all day for me, with the added bonus no one will think you’re likely to be a nob head when they see the car coming towards them.
I genuinely don't understand comments like this. There are just as many yoofs driving Peugeot 206s around my way as Fiestas, so I cant understand why someone would think a 3 or 4 year old Fiesta ST would be a complete chav chariot compared with a Peugeot 208 GTI.greenarrow said:
DanielSan said:
Peugeot all day for me, with the added bonus no one will think you’re likely to be a nob head when they see the car coming towards them.
I genuinely don't understand comments like this. There are just as many yoofs driving Peugeot 206s around my way as Fiestas, so I cant understand why someone would think a 3 or 4 year old Fiesta ST would be a complete chav chariot compared with a Peugeot 208 GTI.R36vw said:
Spending that type of money, negotiate you can get an s1. The audi s1 walks all over these two. Ok the kit on both will be superior, but its no point when the engine is nowhere near as good and you are dust on a b road Fine if you like the looks and gadgets, but you will l be dissappointed when alongside an s1 performance wise...and dtuk tune them to 300+bhp also??
The downside is that you'd be driving an S1, though. I've had my 208 GTI 30th for over two years now, the driving position felt strange for about the first mile when I test drove it, after that it became intuitive. Being tall works to my advantage as with every car I had before my height caused the steering wheel to block a portion of the dials from my view. Swings and roundabouts isn't it?!
So a double sausage and egg McMuffin, obviously. had ham said:
The Peugeot all day long. The Fiesta really is a horrible looking thing inside and out. And who wants to drive a fastish Ford - the chav image is second to none.
We can't all drive snoozemobile posers BMWs, some people actually enjoy driving."Who wants to drive a fastish ford" ? Errm lots of people, they probably have the biggest following of any manufacturer in the UK.
For me it would be too close to call between these 2 cars but I'd probably prefer my megane to either.
"the driving position is even more awkward, there's more turbo lag and the gearbox is baggier - but don't discount it: this little Peugeot remains on of the best hot hatches on sale."
Apart from the typo, how do statements like that get the green light for publishing? From those three negatives, it sounds like the worst hot hatch on sale!
Apart from the typo, how do statements like that get the green light for publishing? From those three negatives, it sounds like the worst hot hatch on sale!
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