RE: PH Service History: Starter for Five
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Totally agree about the Audi TT...so cheap right now...Can't think of another 4WD car with over 200 BHP that you can buy for around a grand...even minging Mk1 Impreza Turbos are above this level now....and the history lesson is absolutely right. It kickstarted the Audi revolution, but don't forget the A3. That came out just after the BMW compact as I recall and was so much more successful in getting people into a compact hatch.
The original Focus is 20 years old this year and like all Fords eventually destined for classic status, so a £1000 ST MK1 is a shrewd purchase right now. I think the ST is quite a looker, in blue or grey on those pretty alloy wheels. It might not be fast, but lack of pace hasn't stopped XR3 values climbing into the stratosphere.
Also, the Puma, if you can get one that's rust free. One day soon we'll look back and say "did people really pick those up for £4-£500?" - just like we do now with the Peugeot 205s
The original Focus is 20 years old this year and like all Fords eventually destined for classic status, so a £1000 ST MK1 is a shrewd purchase right now. I think the ST is quite a looker, in blue or grey on those pretty alloy wheels. It might not be fast, but lack of pace hasn't stopped XR3 values climbing into the stratosphere.
Also, the Puma, if you can get one that's rust free. One day soon we'll look back and say "did people really pick those up for £4-£500?" - just like we do now with the Peugeot 205s
greenarrow said:
The original Focus is 20 years old this year and like all Fords eventually destined for classic status, so a £1000 ST MK1 is a shrewd purchase right now. I think the ST is quite a looker, in blue or grey on those pretty alloy wheels. It might not be fast,
Yes, I think they'll rise in price too ...just like XR3is
Admittedly not super-hatch acceleration.....but, roughly same acceleration to a ton, top speed as the similar weight and power 306GTI-6
Good handling too
greenarrow said:
Totally agree about the Audi TT...so cheap right now...Can't think of another 4WD car with over 200 BHP that you can buy for around a grand...even minging Mk1 Impreza Turbos are above this level now....and the history lesson is absolutely right. It kickstarted the Audi revolution, but don't forget the A3. That came out just after the BMW compact as I recall and was so much more successful in getting people into a compact hatch.
The original Focus is 20 years old this year and like all Fords eventually destined for classic status, so a £1000 ST MK1 is a shrewd purchase right now. I think the ST is quite a looker, in blue or grey on those pretty alloy wheels. It might not be fast, but lack of pace hasn't stopped XR3 values climbing into the stratosphere.
Also, the Puma, if you can get one that's rust free. One day soon we'll look back and say "did people really pick those up for £4-£500?" - just like we do now with the Peugeot 205s
Full agreement but the key is to look for a first rate example as low prices are so low it's a lot cheaper than bringing a poorer example up to scratch.The original Focus is 20 years old this year and like all Fords eventually destined for classic status, so a £1000 ST MK1 is a shrewd purchase right now. I think the ST is quite a looker, in blue or grey on those pretty alloy wheels. It might not be fast, but lack of pace hasn't stopped XR3 values climbing into the stratosphere.
Also, the Puma, if you can get one that's rust free. One day soon we'll look back and say "did people really pick those up for £4-£500?" - just like we do now with the Peugeot 205s
Good call on the Puma. Not a car i like the looks of inside or out and i dont "get" them. My wife had one when we first met and she loved it. Even when she was shopping for a new car and was using it as.a PX, several salesmen who you'd think would want to talk a PX down rekarked on how good they were.
I wonder if there will ever be any love for late '90s-2000s S-Type Jags? The retro look impressed me in 1998 but it quickly became something i dislked. I saw a late model S-Type the other day. A dechromed performance model. (R or something?). It didnt look half bad and i wondered lke the poster above, if putting a couple away in a barn for a decade might bring rewards.
I wonder if there will ever be any love for late '90s-2000s S-Type Jags? The retro look impressed me in 1998 but it quickly became something i dislked. I saw a late model S-Type the other day. A dechromed performance model. (R or something?). It didnt look half bad and i wondered lke the poster above, if putting a couple away in a barn for a decade might bring rewards.
Wildcat45 said:
Good call on the Puma. Not a car i like the looks of inside or out and i dont "get" them. My wife had one when we first met and she loved it. Even when she was shopping for a new car and was using it as.a PX, several salesmen who you'd think would want to talk a PX down rekarked on how good they were.
I wonder if there will ever be any love for late '90s-2000s S-Type Jags? The retro look impressed me in 1998 but it quickly became something i dislked. I saw a late model S-Type the other day. A dechromed performance model. (R or something?). It didnt look half bad and i wondered lke the poster above, if putting a couple away in a barn for a decade might bring rewards.
Don't stick it in a barn, get a good example and enjoy it with care. Cars deteriorate without use. Like art (or anything) it's not a one way bet but you can't lose if you gain enough pleasure.I wonder if there will ever be any love for late '90s-2000s S-Type Jags? The retro look impressed me in 1998 but it quickly became something i dislked. I saw a late model S-Type the other day. A dechromed performance model. (R or something?). It didnt look half bad and i wondered lke the poster above, if putting a couple away in a barn for a decade might bring rewards.
Frankly a barn full of genuine spares for cars we think will go for heaps will probably pull the premium - mostly trim and stuff which can end up on the market very cheap when the dealers don't have to support them anymore but need the space.
With the continuing advance of 3D printing, i wonder if those difficult to find trim problrms will become a thing of the past?
I needed wheel centres for one of my cars. They weren't a common size, or a common wheel, and even crappy originals sold for daft money. I bought a new set off a bloke online for a fractiion of the price. I think they are 3D printed.
I needed wheel centres for one of my cars. They weren't a common size, or a common wheel, and even crappy originals sold for daft money. I bought a new set off a bloke online for a fractiion of the price. I think they are 3D printed.
Wildcat45 said:
With the continuing advance of 3D printing, i wonder if those difficult to find trim problrms will become a thing of the past?
I needed wheel centres for one of my cars. They weren't a common size, or a common wheel, and even crappy originals sold for daft money. I bought a new set off a bloke online for a fractiion of the price. I think they are 3D printed.
I've discussed 3d printing with friends and if it isn't already in the spares business it won't be long before it is. The issue is on more complex bits of trim like those carefully damped grab handles or in the case of VAG the soft feel rubberised plastics that wear so badly. These will be much harder to get "just right" and there will be a significant premium for the original article on blue chip classics. I needed wheel centres for one of my cars. They weren't a common size, or a common wheel, and even crappy originals sold for daft money. I bought a new set off a bloke online for a fractiion of the price. I think they are 3D printed.
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