RE: Panavia Tornado F3: Spotted

RE: Panavia Tornado F3: Spotted

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Ej74

1,038 posts

186 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2018
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Has the EGR been removed

It won't pass a MOT

Jarama s

19 posts

99 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2018
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The Mig 23 Flogger also for sale on here is much cooler !

Roger Woods

643 posts

212 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2018
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Any idea about price?

aeropilot

34,670 posts

228 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2018
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OP said:
the Tornado F3 could also reach a top speed of Mach 2.2 (1,490 mph) and an altitude of up to 50,000ft.
rofl

The Tornado was one of the fastest things with wings at low level (what it was designed for) but was spectacularly bad at high level, unless clean, and even needed to employ reheat when engaged in air-air refuelling with Victor/VickyTen's at high altitude....

It also guzzled fuel at a terrific rate at altitude as well, which meant, trying to get one to FL50 when clean even after topping up from a tanker meant you really didn't have enough fuel to hope to get to M2.2.....

I have talked to one ex.F.3 pilot that claimed to have seen M1.8 at FL43...once........ and he reckoned that was an achievement..... biggrin





Rubber-Ducky

284 posts

206 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2018
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Jarama s said:
The Mig 23 Flogger also for sale on here is much cooler !
There's something I find irresistibly cool about swing-wing fast jets. They kinda defined a specific, short lived time in development before strake wings became favoured.

Or maybe it's just childhood memories of Topgun...

Rubber-Ducky

284 posts

206 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2018
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aeropilot said:
OP said:
the Tornado F3 could also reach a top speed of Mach 2.2 (1,490 mph) and an altitude of up to 50,000ft.
rofl

The Tornado was one of the fastest things with wings at low level (what it was designed for) but was spectacularly bad at high level, unless clean, and even needed to employ reheat when engaged in air-air refuelling with Victor/VickyTen's at high altitude....

It also guzzled fuel at a terrific rate at altitude as well, which meant, trying to get one to FL50 when clean even after topping up from a tanker meant you really didn't have enough fuel to hope to get to M2.2.....

I have talked to one ex.F.3 pilot that claimed to have seen M1.8 at FL43...once........ and he reckoned that was an achievement..... biggrin
FL50 really isn't very high.

williamp

19,265 posts

274 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2018
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...then the afterburner kicked in, yo...

BOBTEE

1,034 posts

165 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2018
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The F3 isn't still in service, it was retired years ago. The GR4 variant is still going though.

The tape player was for the sat nav! The mission would be plotted on the ground via computer and then downloaded on to a TDK90, then popped in the jet and fed in to the on board computers


LotusOmega375D

7,641 posts

154 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2018
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What happened if it chewed the tape up?

GIYess

1,324 posts

102 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2018
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comments are comedy gold. biglaugh Love it. I'm sitting here thinking about where in my yard it could sit! Imagine the kids faces when the lorry rolled up with that on the back!

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

127 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2018
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LotusOmega375D said:
What happened if it chewed the tape up?
The pilot was issued with a pencil to manually rewind it.

Byker28i

60,135 posts

218 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2018
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BOBTEE said:
The tape player was for the sat nav! The mission would be plotted on the ground via computer and then downloaded on to a TDK90, then popped in the jet and fed in to the on board computers
Really? When we programmed then at Boscombe we had ruggedised strorage units that plugged in and transferred the software, Ada I seem to remember.
The Harriers had the same, but they were machine code
Mind you, that was 25 years ago...

V41LEY

2,895 posts

239 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2018
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LotusOmega375D said:
What happened if it chewed the tape up?
Old tech secure against electronic attack ?

aeropilot

34,670 posts

228 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2018
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GIYess said:
comments are comedy gold. biglaugh Love it. I'm sitting here thinking about where in my yard it could sit! Imagine the kids faces when the lorry rolled up with that on the back!
I know of a big petrolhead (owned the first Ford RS200 sold to the public) that has a Lightning F.6 in his back garden smile


The Selfish Gene

5,516 posts

211 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2018
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I remember joining the project on the software - in around 1998 - I think it was over 20 years old at that point..............I've not worked on a 'legacy' platform like it since!

ecsrobin

17,134 posts

166 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2018
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I believe there’s a member on here that has a Harrier in their garden.

I remember being at coningsby with the F3’s on QRA watching them take off fully armed and fuelled they’d nearly take out the fence at the end of the runway rofl

frodo_monkey

670 posts

197 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2018
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ElectricPics said:
It's an F3 which is the interceptor variant so the drop tanks were generally only used for ferrying, but they could still carry four Skyflash and two Sidewinder missiles.
4x AMRAAM or Skyflash under fuselage, 4x ASRAAM or ‘winders under wing. At the same time you could carry 2x drop tanks (large or small) and also a towed radar decoy/chaff pod on the outer stubs.

And it could do Mach 2+, I have done it (Falklands, dedicated tanker)...

Edited by frodo_monkey on Tuesday 22 May 17:28

will261058

1,115 posts

193 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2018
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I used to work on the GR1 version of these, the ground runs were of particular note especialy when you went to Max reheat or even into Combat and the front dived down so you were looking out at the concrete. Moving the wings was also interesting. One thing I wasn't too keen on though was the seat adjustment, it was a rocker switch on the right side of the cockpit. Just the idea of sitting on a live ejector seat that is moving up, even very slowly felt wierd!

williamp

19,265 posts

274 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2018
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V41LEY said:
LotusOmega375D said:
What happened if it chewed the tape up?
Old tech secure against electronic attack ?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rHjU0sdHRV8

You can see the tape player here. Didnt one of the iron eagle films show a pilot replacing their non-tornado version with an 80s rock music casette??

Anyhow, the F3 is my favourite aircraft. Yes, I even prefer it to the spitfire. No reason, no logic. I love how it looks and when I was a boy the only thing I wanted to do when I grew up was th fly in one. I am but one small lottery win away from owning this...

gobigorgohome

3 posts

153 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2018
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Also has a great radar detector! Also uses fuel quicker than a Chiron when she’s flat-out