RE: Corsa GSI engine confirmed
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ks and SRI was the warm version. Seems a bit of a lukewarm watering down, an XR4x4 Sierra could outpace one. RedneckPickup said:
0-60 in 8.9 seconds, that's so slow by todays standards for any hot hatch, maybe in 1990.
I thought it was quoting 0-62 in 8.9. That may sound slightly pedantic but I'd reserve judgement for 2 reasons 1/ if there's a gearchange at just about 60 that might skew times - a lot of cars of this ilk peak at 61/62 to manage a better 0-60 time rather than one involving 2 gearchanges
2/ has the manufacturer deliberately downplayed times for some reason ( e.g. Insurance rating....as per Peugeot with the 106 and 306!Gti )?
I wouldn't be surprised if it's a bit quicker to 60 than 8.7ish when it's properly tested looking at similar weight/power fwd hatches
All the above only of interest if acceleration times are your benchmark of course
I recently groaned at the Europcar hire desk being handed the keys to an Opel Corsa - no idea what engine it had, it looked fast with black wheels, sports seats etc but really wasn't.
And....after 2 days, its really changed my perception, its not a bad car - sure not as good as the new Fiesta, but quiet, comfortable, decent interior, decent handling.
So 150hp isn't that much for a GSi badge, but if it were pitched at the right price, it would be a decent car (and potentially more easy to insure) for the younger buyer. Sadly, anywhere £18-19k isn't the right price, but at say £15-16k, it might find a niche as a warm hatch.
But maybe a bit more SRi than GSi...
And....after 2 days, its really changed my perception, its not a bad car - sure not as good as the new Fiesta, but quiet, comfortable, decent interior, decent handling.
So 150hp isn't that much for a GSi badge, but if it were pitched at the right price, it would be a decent car (and potentially more easy to insure) for the younger buyer. Sadly, anywhere £18-19k isn't the right price, but at say £15-16k, it might find a niche as a warm hatch.
But maybe a bit more SRi than GSi...
Mr2Mike said:
DoubleD said:
Snobs might dismiss it. A proper car enthusiast judges a car and not a badge.
Said enthusiast would then dismiss the Corsa. Unless they virtually give these away, what do they offer that rivals don't do better?Trouble is this gen Corsa basically dates back to 2006 with just a major facelift since then. Its woefully out of date and completely outclassed next to the new Fiesta. A brand new Corsa can't come quick enough.
I had a 1.2 Adam (shortened Corsa chassis) as a loan car recently and quite liked it, despite the rather flat engine and polarising image. I can see why people might lease one of those for £100 pcm but goodness knows what the payments on a £19k Corsa GSI will be, despite the leather Recaros and VXR addenda I'd have thought £15-16k more realistic. The Fiesta ST will destroy it at £18995 (before the inevitable discount).
Shakermaker said:
Shiv_P said:
150BHP? Is GSI the replacement for VXR or no?
No, its not. Most seem to think that there will be no direct replacement for the VXR model now that Vauxhall is owned by PSA as PSA won't want to rival the Pug 208GTIhttp://www.carbuyer.co.uk/news/163689/peugeot-308-...
The Crack Fox said:
The 1987 Vauxhall Nova GTE, a 1.6 litre naturally aspirated thing, did 0-60 in c.9 seconds. That's over 30 years ago.
Vauxhall are dead and buried. Another brand strangled to death by the grasping hands of GM.
Huh? Vauxhall was owned by GM for what, 93 years? Vauxhall are dead and buried. Another brand strangled to death by the grasping hands of GM.
That’s slow strangulation. And I still think Saab would’ve been gone at least a decade earlier if GM hadn’t bought it.
ukaskew said:
Bit confused by the response to this, I thought the press/public were wanting an end to the arms race and a bit of concentration on the neglected 'warm' market that used to be so popular.
The Sportka and Ignis Sport I've owned previously were an absolute blast but were well, well short of 200hp.
I have no interest in a Corsa but pleased they are making this.
The appeal of the 'warm market' is when the car is light weight and designed to handle playfully. This car will be heavy, over tyred and handle ..well, like a vauxhall. So I can't really see how it could be an appealing option at all.The Sportka and Ignis Sport I've owned previously were an absolute blast but were well, well short of 200hp.
I have no interest in a Corsa but pleased they are making this.
Once again Vauxhall are doing nothing better than anyone else yet still charging good money for it. I really wonder how they're still in business sometimes and the only conclusion I can draw is there must still be plenty of the ignorant out there queuing up to buy them.
I get it.
The VXR, while pretty good by all accounts, competed with some of the best RS Clios and was then against the FiST. Those are both a lot better than "pretty good," so the Corsa fell by the wayside a bit like a lot of its contemporaries.
By contrast, all the more junior stuff going right now - Abarth 500, Up gti, Swift Sport - is apparently a bit flawed. I know Vauxhall don't often play a blinder but if they did they could have the sector sewn up.
Best of luck to 'em, I say.
The VXR, while pretty good by all accounts, competed with some of the best RS Clios and was then against the FiST. Those are both a lot better than "pretty good," so the Corsa fell by the wayside a bit like a lot of its contemporaries.
By contrast, all the more junior stuff going right now - Abarth 500, Up gti, Swift Sport - is apparently a bit flawed. I know Vauxhall don't often play a blinder but if they did they could have the sector sewn up.
Best of luck to 'em, I say.
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