RE: The ?100k Sagaris: Spotted

[swisstoni]

E Types aren't a great drive by modern standards but they manage to fetch a bit.

Once a car gets above a certain level, lap times, structural rigidity and all that normal stuff goes out the window.
People become more concerned with 'matching numbers' than bhp numbers.

[theholygrail]

As a Griff owner the comments about the Griff are hugely encouraging! Not that I really needed any convincing that I love my car. As much as I'm sure the later cars are technically far superior I absolutely couldn't be without the sound my car makes. Even after 7 years I still genuinely laugh out loud at the noise when I drive it.

[rampageturke]

DonkeyApple said:

I suspect there is a general assumption that the target buyer is the chap who only has £100k and can only have one car. In reality, I suspect the typical buyer is someone who already has things like Ferrari’s and Porches and just wants another toy.

Nah, I think it'll just be bought for investment and will probably see very few additional miles on it

shame really

[GarageQueen]

does everything have to cost 100K nowadays??

[robsco]

Lovely, just lovely.

But a Tuscan 2S with the same power output, close ratio 'box, removable roof and rear window for less than half the money? No brainer.

[Don1]

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[Pat H]

Very nice indeed.

Shame about the boring colour and the dull interior. It's a TVR, for God's sake, not a BMW 316.

With the daft exhausts, the plexi spoiler and those slats, it really deserves to be painted in a slightly more adventurous colour.

Acid green or metallic orange would do the trick.

Comedy price tag aside, it would make a very nice plaything.

[Byker28i]

Jonny TVR said:

swisstoni said:

Almost single-handedly Str8Six championed the Sagaris, started prepping them to absolute perfection and advertising them in an attractive manner for a highish price. And in that tiny market, it worked.

I think the same could be done for other models and probably will in the future. A perfectly presented TVR of any type is still a very attractive vehicle.

I think they have already started doing it with other models like the Griff .. I've seen two they have/ are marketing at £45K

Tuscans will be next. I think the T cars are easier to do this with, they still look current

[DonkeyApple]

Byker28i said:

Tuscans will be next. I think the T cars are easier to do this with, they still look current

I don’t know. There are a lot more about and like the Chim, quite a lot are totally fked due to being left outside and run on the cheap. You want the models that will tend to have been looked after properly by enough previous owners, have a scarcity and haven’t been heavily fannied about with as if it were a twenty year old Corsa.

The LE Griff is probably going to be more expensive than the Sag in due course if this market continues for long enough. The Griff is still the definitive TVR for the general public and there were only 100 of them?

[ChilliWhizz]

GarageQueen said:

does everything have to cost 100K nowadays??

Good grief no............ If really pushed I'd let my Chim go (to the right person) for, er, maybe £35K..... OK £30k if I was really really pushed. That'd be it though...

[lockhart flawse]

The LE Griff is probably going to be more expensive than the Sag in due course if this market continues for long enough. The Griff is still the definitive TVR for the general public and there were only 100 of them?
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Agreed.

[Clockwork Cupcake]

DeejRC said:

Very special car...I really really really want to say yes, but............

Sigh. Bottom line, truth is - I really regretted selling my Griff for the Sag. The Griff was/IS special, the Sagaris, despite it being a better vehicle in almost every way, just never felt as special as the Griff.

So sell it and buy a Griff then. The Griff isn't particularly rare, and there will be plenty to choose from.

[unsprung]

absurd pricing

there's no good reason that this used TVR should cost nearly five times the median household income in the UK

meanwhile, in the US, teens and twenty-somethings are buying Mustang GT and other fun cars, new, for around £28,000 -- out the door.

[Clockwork Cupcake]

WCZ said:

wasn't that long ago they were £35k
lovely looking cars imo

I don't think they ever dipped that low did they? The lowest I ever saw them come down to was £38k-odd for the very cheapest examples in 2008

[Squirrelofwoe]

unsprung said:

meanwhile, in the US, teens and twenty-somethings are buying Mustang GT and other fun cars, new, for around £28,000 -- out the door.

Having recently spent time in Miami, the downside of this is you are never more than about 20 yards from a new Mustang... They are more common over there than the various new Minis are over here! They are absolutely everywhere. Mostly convertibles though.

Didn't see a single TVR!

[Byker28i]

lockhart flawse said:

The LE Griff is probably going to be more expensive than the Sag in due course if this market continues for long enough. The Griff is still the definitive TVR for the general public and there were only 100 of them?

Agreed.

Not sure. The griff is generally talked up by it's owners, but there's not enough to distinguish them from the other models and there were lots of Griffs made.

If we look at how many were licenced last year in the UK as a rough guide to compare numbers against models, it seems the rare cars are the Tuscan S, Tasmin, T350T and C and Sagaris - the T cars

https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/?utf8=%E2%9C%93&...

And the T cars still look relevant today, the design doesn't look dated. The Cerbera, Chim, Griff are much more a nod to british cars of old

[unsprung]

Squirrelofwoe said:

unsprung said:

meanwhile, in the US, teens and twenty-somethings are buying Mustang GT and other fun cars, new, for around £28,000 -- out the door.

Having recently spent time in Miami, the downside of this is you are never more than about 20 yards from a new Mustang... They are more common over there than the various new Minis are over here! They are absolutely everywhere. Mostly convertibles though.

Didn't see a single TVR!

never engineered for crash standards, possibly also with emissions matters... not to mention the build quality which PH'ers themselves often moan about

shifting gears... Mustang is the only game in town; keep in mind, it's common as a hire car, especially in tourist locations like Florida

[m4tti]

Big GT said:

Krikkit said:

Jonny TVR said:

They are all flawed in the handling department due to the chassis. No amount of money spent on suspension will change that. However I love everything about them even the smell!

Do you think that includes the Sag? (And to a lesser extent the T350)

It was very well reviewed against its peers at the time.

These are race chassis with a light body. Sag/ Tuscan/ t'cars will out grip and change direction quicker than most things. To coin a worn out phase go karts for the road.

Not as forgiving or as fluid as a lotus or Porsche though.

£ 100k . Comparing this to the modern classic market especially what cosworths, 911's, Ferrari then not suprising.

Comparing though to T350's Tuscans at under half the price seems expensive.

They are not a race chassis.. well not unless you’ve got a huge bong on the go.

If you have a ramp you’ll notice when you lift the thing the doors won’t open due to that “race chassis” flexing like a banana.

And I can assure you on an average British B road lots of things turn faster and stay on the said road.

[redroadster]

Be interesting to see if it sells at that level but got to agree if old escorts are worth ......how much lmao

[s m]

GarageQueen said:

does everything have to cost 100K nowadays??

No, that old 911 featured recently was 6 times as much apparently

You pay your money and you take your choice ...