“Classics are for people who can’t afford supercars”

“Classics are for people who can’t afford supercars”

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Riley Blue

20,988 posts

227 months

Sunday 27th May 2018
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fausTVR said:
av185 said:
interloper said:
Exactly, the rotting mess in the picture looks like a Triumph Herald, its probably too far gone but a good one is quite appealing .
Appealing in what way though?

Serious question.
If that were road legal I'd like to drive it, I don't think you get classic cars at all do you? It may well be inferior in almost every respect to a modern (except driving visibility, turning circle, ownership costs and a few sundry odds and ends) but what it has in spades is charm and character, which is the chief attraction of classic ownership.
yes It's not all about cost, speed, refinement etc. It's about having fun.



nickfrog

21,230 posts

218 months

Sunday 27th May 2018
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Labradorofperception said:
That Porsche is rank.
Beetle please.
458 man - best to say if your only achievement in life is your car, then you're a massively sad .
Labradorofperception said:
That Porsche screams , with all the personalty of porridge.
Labradorofperception said:
I bet the Porsche driver puts his forearms under his knees when he sts.
While I am sure your repeated posting over a 2 hour period is a cry for attention, have you considered that most would assume that you're pissed off, bitter and envious because you can't get a GT3 so the only way for you to feel better about it is to assume that any GT3 owners is as you describe them.

On the other hand, you may well be Humandoing, your last post kind of gives it away.

ClaphamGT3

11,318 posts

244 months

Sunday 27th May 2018
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av185 said:
Appealing in what way though?

Serious question.
Of all my cars, my favourites to drive are my Mini Sprite and my Lancia Spyder.

The mini because, despite it being noisy, uncomfortable and - in straight line terms - ridiculously slow, it handles like it's on rails which is fun and reminds me every time I drive it of what a game changing design the Mini was in 1959 and how it completely revolutionised motoring.

The Lancia is engaging, lively and never fails to put a grin on my face as I recapture my late teens and early twenties. It also attracts more attention wherever it goes than all my other cars put together

MC Bodge

21,706 posts

176 months

Sunday 27th May 2018
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The premise of the chap in the original posting is that to "win at life" means to accumulate more cash than others and/or be seen to by as many people as possible.

J4CKO

41,676 posts

201 months

Sunday 27th May 2018
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Sounds bit like he is doing the "Supercar Lifestyle" thing, if he is that bothered about relative performance and his mates car being a couple of tenths faster.

Its amazing what people carry round in their head, he obviously really thinks that, sometimes it is best to keep your gob shut as that is when problems occur, when your strange views are aired and come under analysis and into conflict, I am sure I have loads of stuff in my head that would get challenged pretty quickly if I put it on here, so if you arent sure, keep it to yourself to avoid disappointment !

He sounds a bit insecure to be honest, anyone knows that all classic car owners arent all driving their cars whilst they save for a 458 or similar, a lot of folk have no desire to own one or wouldn't be seen dead in one, I love supercars but always think I would feel a bit of conspicuous cock driving one a lot of the time, they look and sound amazing but it would be like walking round, doing the shopping in a John Travolta style white Disco suit. If you truly think about it, they really arent cool are they.

Imagine people mistaking you for Schmee, and being disappointed when you are arent ! not sure even my robust ego could take that kind of abuse.

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 27th May 2018
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MDL111 said:
browngt3 said:
It's ironic many comments here show the same judgemental nonsense as those in the OP. If you like cars then it doesn't matter if your a Porsche, Fezza or Classics man. Each to their own. Im often mystified by people's choice in car but, hey, we're all different.
Yup, if I had enough money I’d have a barn full of cars ranging from a beetle and a VW Camper all the way to a Chiron with pretty much every type of car in between ....and I’d certainly drive them all (just each one very little due to number of cars and lack of time)

Very little room for common sense and appreciation of variety and personal choice in GG.

GT6 Jonsey

845 posts

123 months

Sunday 27th May 2018
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av185 said:
Yes a guy near me owned an Alfa like that years back and I always thought it was quite a car.

Top comedy though what junk cars rose tinted spectacled anoraks call classics scratchchin



Why would anyone would throw £££s of their hard earned restoring such rubbish.

Slow, noisy, impractical, polluting, ancient driving dynamics, rust prone, woefully outdated in every area.

And that's when new.

The mind boggles. biggrin:
That car has been restored but I’d imagine it was only for its reg, cool story link
https://www.theprivateplateco.co.uk/news/article/r...

GT6 Jonsey

845 posts

123 months

Sunday 27th May 2018
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“Slow, noisy, impractical, polluting, ancient driving dynamics, rust prone, woefully outdated in every area.”
That’s the exact reason I have owned all 8 of my previous Heralds smile

Edited by GT6 Jonsey on Sunday 27th May 11:26

s m

23,262 posts

204 months

Sunday 27th May 2018
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GT6 Jonsey said:
“Slow, noisy, impractical, polluting, ancient driving dynamics, rust prone, woefully outdated in every area.”
That’s the exact reason I have owned all 8 of my previous Heralds
A lot of old exotica that trades for millions would fulfil all that description too.

I think it's great there's a car or classic for all varied tastes

e30m3Mark

16,205 posts

174 months

Sunday 27th May 2018
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GT6 Jonsey said:
“Slow, noisy, impractical, polluting, ancient driving dynamics, rust prone, woefully outdated in every area.”
That’s the exact reason I have owned all 8 of my previous Heralds smile

Edited by GT6 Jonsey on Sunday 27th May 11:26
I drove Heralds for a few years. I had a really nice 1360 convertible in old English white and it was a joy on sunny days. Yes, you had to wind the windows manually and no, it didn't have chilled or heated cup holders but what it had in spades was charm and character. As for polluting? Nonsense. It was well maintained and excellent on fuel. I'd imagine running a classic is about as green as you can be when it comes to carbon footprint surely?

AW111

9,674 posts

134 months

Sunday 27th May 2018
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Maybe "cheapish classics are for those who don't want to spend a lot of money on supercars".
I own what I'd call a modern classic, because IMO it's a lot more fun than a modern car costing twice as much.
If I could afford a supercar, I'd probably spend the money on something else (boat, house, other car, etc.)

f1nn

2,693 posts

193 months

Sunday 27th May 2018
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You've got to appreciate the irony of "Point of view A is ridiculous, so I'll put forward an equally ridiculous point of view B as an argument" more than a few posters are presenting!

av185

18,523 posts

128 months

Sunday 27th May 2018
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J4CKO said:
He sounds a bit insecure to be honest, anyone knows that all classic car owners arent all driving their cars whilst they save for a 458 or similar, a lot of folk have no desire to own one or wouldn't be seen dead in one, I love supercars but always think I would feel a bit of conspicuous cock driving one a lot of the time, they look and sound amazing but it would be like walking round, doing the shopping in a John Travolta style white Disco suit. If you truly think about it, they really arent cool are they.
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It really comes down to your reason for owning either a supercar or classic.

The supercar driver who simply drives one for the badge or to be 'seen' could be rightly judged as a cockwomble as opposed to someone who drives one for the car itself and truly appreciates the engineering driving dynamics cars ability whatever etc etc.

The same would apply to classics I guess.

That is why imo supercars cars like the Aventador largely fail and are generally favoured by footballers to be seen in. Yes they no doubt have the presence and kerb appeal to be seen on the Kings Road (their natural environment lol) but from a driving perspective they are too big too heavy and disengaging especially for typical UK driving roads. Require little skill to drive quickly too, with over intrusive driving aids flattering the bad driver.

Possible style over substance would be a reasonable description.

In contrast, the Miura deserves respect and requires true skill to drive at any speed.

161BMW

Original Poster:

1,697 posts

166 months

Sunday 27th May 2018
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Oh no the Muira would be considered “too slow” and “too old” to be appreciated lol

irocfan

40,582 posts

191 months

Sunday 27th May 2018
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rxe said:
I see a lot of dicks at school (private...). The
<snigger>.

In fairness, I do know what you mean. I would hope that I'm not rude enough to denigrate someone's choice of car/partner etc beyond to say that (as previously mentioned) supercars do nothing for me - I am glad that they exist though

bluemason

1,070 posts

124 months

Sunday 27th May 2018
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Yet the irony being that a 458 will be a future classic at some point

Muddle238

3,909 posts

114 months

Sunday 27th May 2018
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MC Bodge said:
The premise of the chap in the original posting is that to "win at life" means to accumulate more cash than others and/or be seen to by as many people as possible.
"Winning at life" is a phrase that amuses me, it suggests that life is game and you're in competition with everyone else to "out do" them. Usually resulting in a shallow existence of portraying a flashy image and pseudo-wealth. The people who are genuinely wealthy often "portray" their wealth by driving some old snotters and don't give a monkeys about what others think.

av185

18,523 posts

128 months

Sunday 27th May 2018
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Ah yes, the 'money shouts but wealth whispers' old chestnut.

nickfrog

21,230 posts

218 months

Sunday 27th May 2018
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Muddle238 said:
MC Bodge said:
The premise of the chap in the original posting is that to "win at life" means to accumulate more cash than others and/or be seen to by as many people as possible.
"Winning at life" is a phrase that amuses me, it suggests that life is game and you're in competition with everyone else to "out do" them. Usually resulting in a shallow existence of portraying a flashy image and pseudo-wealth. The people who are genuinely wealthy often "portray" their wealth by driving some old snotters and don't give a monkeys about what others think.
You guys read too much into it. It's entirely possible that a supercar owner doesn't give a st what you or anyone else think. Reverse snobbery, the usual PH indicator of bitterness / envy.

Edited by nickfrog on Sunday 27th May 16:04

J4CKO

41,676 posts

201 months

Sunday 27th May 2018
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Muddle238 said:
MC Bodge said:
The premise of the chap in the original posting is that to "win at life" means to accumulate more cash than others and/or be seen to by as many people as possible.
"Winning at life" is a phrase that amuses me, it suggests that life is game and you're in competition with everyone else to "out do" them. Usually resulting in a shallow existence of portraying a flashy image and pseudo-wealth.
I know a guy like that, he got bullied at school.