“Classics are for people who can’t afford supercars”

“Classics are for people who can’t afford supercars”

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irocfan

40,539 posts

191 months

Saturday 26th May 2018
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Westy Pre-Lit said:
Supercars are for those that worry about what everybody else thinks, Classic cars are for those that couldn't give a toss.
I'd also disagree with this.

To be fair a lot of people will buy fezzas and the like because they genuinely love cars others will buy one "...because it shows that I've made it..."

In all honesty, if my numbers came up in the lotto, you'd not see me anywhere near a super/hypercar showroom - I'd be somewhere like Kindig It Designs. Doesn't make me wrong or a new car owner wrong, differences in taste

NDA

21,615 posts

226 months

Saturday 26th May 2018
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Westy Pre-Lit said:
Supercars are for those that worry about what everybody else thinks, Classic cars are for those that couldn't give a toss.
It's interesting that we are ascribing character traits to the type of cars people might own. As I mentioned earlier, some have both supercars and classic cars in their garage - what should we make of them?

67Dino

3,586 posts

106 months

Saturday 26th May 2018
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Think he’s confusing two different things here:

Regular cars are for people who can’t afford (or don’t always want to drive) supercars. Otherwise manufacturers would only sell supercars. Classics are for people who value the emotional over the rational.

These aren’t exclusive though, and so there are owners of classics who can and can’t afford a supercar, and owners of supercars who do and don’t have a classic. There are also some pretty appalling people, some of whom have a 458 apparently...




Harji

2,200 posts

162 months

Saturday 26th May 2018
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If that guy is worried about image, I got more looks in my SAAB by pedestrians while waiting at lights than a Ferrari next to me.

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 26th May 2018
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161BMW said:
He was too embarrassed to post on Ferrari chat let alone piston heads

He is aware of this thread and his reaction made me laugh.
He's really cool your mate, and you are.

Dear Dierdre today....

DoubleD

22,154 posts

109 months

Saturday 26th May 2018
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Harji said:
If that guy is worried about image, I got more looks in my SAAB by pedestrians while waiting at lights than a Ferrari next to me.
Thats because people dont like other folk in "posh" cars, so they ignore them. Odd really.

MC Bodge

21,652 posts

176 months

Saturday 26th May 2018
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CS Garth said:
He is really just representative of a significant potion of society for whom "buying new" is the be all and end all and owning old things somehow represents failure.

This cross section of society also sees all assets (car, house, watch, holiday) as a method of communicating with other tribe members their "success" and their belief system assumes you will buy the most expensive and best you can afford of each item. Ergo old = rubbish in their world. It's why they would never buy an old house, wear threadbare clothes etc even if they were worth half a bill.

V8RX7

26,901 posts

264 months

Saturday 26th May 2018
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With Classics starting around £500 and Supercars starting around 100x that price there is some truth in the statement.

When I was a kid I wanted a Supercar, when I could afford one I looked at where I drive (usually with my children or lots of equipment) and realised I'd never use one

My Dad deals in Classics up to £200,000 and I often wondered who'd pay more for an older, slower "worse" car...



Now I'm older, I do

s m

23,243 posts

204 months

Saturday 26th May 2018
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V8RX7 said:
With Classics starting around £500 and Supercars starting around 100x that price there is some truth in the statement.

When I was a kid I wanted a Supercar, when I could afford one I looked at where I drive (usually with my children or lots of equipment) and realised I'd never use one

My Dad deals in Classics up to £200,000 and I often wondered who'd pay more for an older, slower "worse" car...



Now I'm older, I do
I've driven a few on experience days - I can only imagine but most would for me be frustrating things to use especially with lack of seats, luggage space etc

There's such great cars I can, and do, buy for under 10k that I don't feel like I missed out really.
Especially when, for example , you see people who allege they have such supercars, coming onto threads about a 'humdrum' hot hatch and claim they have more or as much fun in a Cooper S or Panda 100 for a fraction of the cost

e30m3Mark

16,205 posts

174 months

Saturday 26th May 2018
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I think I'm probably a bit too lardy to fit into a super car. That said, I've only ever had a passing interest in them anyway. I'd have a Noble M600 though please, assuming they'd be prepared to make it fit me?

People like different things and so long as you're buying for yourself and not for what you think other people will think of you, I'm all for it.

mygoldfishbowl

3,705 posts

144 months

Saturday 26th May 2018
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irocfan said:
I'd also disagree with this.

To be fair a lot of people will buy fezzas and the like because they genuinely love cars others will buy one "...because it shows that I've made it..."

In all honesty, if my numbers came up in the lotto, you'd not see me anywhere near a super/hypercar showroom - I'd be somewhere like Kindig It Designs. Doesn't make me wrong or a new car owner wrong, differences in taste
I have no idea what a fezza is so I got thinking along the lines of.. Similar to a fizzie but with a larger engine, maybe a 125. I'm sure it isn't though.

MrBarry123

6,028 posts

122 months

Saturday 26th May 2018
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NDA said:
It's interesting that we are ascribing character traits to the type of cars people might own. As I mentioned earlier, some have both supercars and classic cars in their garage - what should we make of them?
That they're not in the bottom 99%?

You show off.

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DoubleD

22,154 posts

109 months

Saturday 26th May 2018
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mygoldfishbowl said:
I have no idea what a fezza is so I got thinking along the lines of.. Similar to a fizzie but with a larger engine, maybe a 125. I'm sure it isn't though.
Ferrari

Byker28i

60,138 posts

218 months

Saturday 26th May 2018
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Riley Blue said:
There are far, far fewer of my £2,500 classic on the road than there are 458s. Why would I want to buy something so common?
Are Allegros/Marina's worth that much now biggrin

161BMW

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1,697 posts

166 months

Saturday 26th May 2018
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Harji said:
If that guy is worried about image, I got more looks in my SAAB by pedestrians while waiting at lights than a Ferrari next to me.
Any pics of the SAAB ? Which Ferrari was it ?

mygoldfishbowl

3,705 posts

144 months

Saturday 26th May 2018
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DoubleD said:
Ferrari
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MC Bodge

21,652 posts

176 months

Saturday 26th May 2018
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s m said:
I've driven a few on experience days - I can only imagine but most would for me be frustrating things to use especially with lack of seats, luggage space etc

There's such great cars I can, and do, buy for under 10k that I don't feel like I missed out really.
Especially when, for example , you see people who allege they have such supercars, coming onto threads about a 'humdrum' hot hatch and claim they have more or as much fun in a Cooper S or Panda 100 for a fraction of the cost
If it is actual enjoyment you are after, a sharp handling small hatchback (need not be that fast) or "classic" or a medium powered motorbike with compliant suspension on tight, twisty roads that you can drive flat out is hard to beat.

If it is genuinely super performance that you are after, a lightweight car like a Seven clone or a 1000cc sports bike will do it. Living in the UK, most high speed stuff is academic.

This is fortunate, as most people couldn't stretch to a "supercar" or wouldn't be able to justify it over other things they could spend/save the money on.

I doubt that owning/being seen to own a big supercar is actually about any of the above for many people.

I know of a few people who came into money, scratched the Ferrari itch, bit didn't keep them for long.

A Dad from my children's school does drive a current 4 seater Ferrari (not sure what the model is) It does sound very good.

e30m3Mark

16,205 posts

174 months

Saturday 26th May 2018
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Many super car owners seem more concerned about being seen to own one, as opposed to actually driving the thing.

MarJay

2,173 posts

176 months

Saturday 26th May 2018
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Ferrari 458's are clearly for people whose braincell accounts are overdrawn.

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

229 months

Saturday 26th May 2018
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Tell him that 458's are just expensive barbecues.