Sold vehicle privately - buyer wants me to pay for repairs

Sold vehicle privately - buyer wants me to pay for repairs

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g3org3y

20,627 posts

191 months

Saturday 26th May 2018
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slipstream 1985 said:
I'm going to sound like and be a massive dick here but fk it its my opinion on how the site is going.
He's not a new member though is he? It is the new standard. Someone has a motor related problem types "car problem" bike problem" etc into google. Pistonheads comes up. registers and first post is a cry for information.
Fine if someone who has a motoring interest been a member for a while then has a problem. I understand it is not a time served forum or "he has been here the longest and so must be wisest" but it is almost like NHS tourism.

The site has become so boring to read. Topics like "should I buy a vauxhall mereva"
The boring daily car/snotter used to be one topic which was interesting as a change but now it is the bread and butter.
The site is becoming "what car" or parkers.
I think you are being harsh.

Man who has automotive (ok, bike) problem posts on UK's foremost automotive forum for advice. Seems reasonable to me.

We may have done the private sale/caveat emptor chat many times (and perhaps the OP should have done a search) but I can appreciate that if you aren't knowledgeable in this area, it can seem rather daunting.

The majority of members probably 'take out' more than they 'put in' but that's forum life.

By treating n00bs nicely, they are more likely to contribute again and perhaps help you in the future with a problem you may have.

beer

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 26th May 2018
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LarsG said:
why wouldn't you allow the bike to be inspected?
Why are you bringing this up? Under consumer law for private sales, which you quoted, where does it fit?

LarsG

991 posts

75 months

Saturday 26th May 2018
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Thesprucegoose said:
LarsG said:
why wouldn't you allow the bike to be inspected?
Why are you bringing this up? Under consumer law for private sales, which you quoted, where does it fit?
Where did I say that? I didn't.

I said I'd ask to have the bike inspected independently.

LarsG

991 posts

75 months

Saturday 26th May 2018
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g3org3y said:
slipstream 1985 said:
I'm going to sound like and be a massive dick here but fk it its my opinion on how the site is going.
He's not a new member though is he? It is the new standard. Someone has a motor related problem types "car problem" bike problem" etc into google. Pistonheads comes up. registers and first post is a cry for information.
Fine if someone who has a motoring interest been a member for a while then has a problem. I understand it is not a time served forum or "he has been here the longest and so must be wisest" but it is almost like NHS tourism.

The site has become so boring to read. Topics like "should I buy a vauxhall mereva"
The boring daily car/snotter used to be one topic which was interesting as a change but now it is the bread and butter.
The site is becoming "what car" or parkers.
I think you are being harsh.

Man who has automotive (ok, bike) problem posts on UK's foremost automotive forum for advice. Seems reasonable to me.

We may have done the private sale/caveat emptor chat many times (and perhaps the OP should have done a search) but I can appreciate that if you aren't knowledgeable in this area, it can seem rather daunting.

The majority of members probably 'take out' more than they 'put in' but that's forum life.

By treating n00bs nicely, they are more likely to contribute again and perhaps help you in the future with a problem you may have.

beer
I concur, we can all be dicks at times but being nice is being better than obnoxious

Jasandjules

69,892 posts

229 months

Saturday 26th May 2018
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Gixxer_6er said:
He blew one up the same morning a part of me thinks it could be a completely different engine.
1. I suspect it was his old bike that he destroyed hence wanting your one

2. You do not need a contract, caveat emptor is automatically implied into a private sale.

3. You do not appear to have misrepresented the bike unless in person you told him this bike would run for miles .......

shtu

3,454 posts

146 months

Saturday 26th May 2018
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Gixxer_6er said:
He's sent lots of photos from the apparent damaged engine one of which shows a hole where the Crank has basically shot itself through the casing... I just believe it was sold as running and he's somehow destroyed it on the way home. He will not send a picture of the engine number though
Stop talking to him, offering refunds, asking for independent inspections, engine numbers, etc. All you are doing is letting him get the upper hand. While missing the point.

"It's sold as seen, bye."

LarsG

991 posts

75 months

Saturday 26th May 2018
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shtu said:
Gixxer_6er said:
He's sent lots of photos from the apparent damaged engine one of which shows a hole where the Crank has basically shot itself through the casing... I just believe it was sold as running and he's somehow destroyed it on the way home. He will not send a picture of the engine number though
Stop talking to him, offering refunds, asking for independent inspections, engine numbers, etc. All you are doing is letting him get the upper hand. While missing the point.

"It's sold as seen, bye."
Close but not quite.

Mercky

642 posts

135 months

Saturday 26th May 2018
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LarsG said:
shtu said:
Gixxer_6er said:
He's sent lots of photos from the apparent damaged engine one of which shows a hole where the Crank has basically shot itself through the casing... I just believe it was sold as running and he's somehow destroyed it on the way home. He will not send a picture of the engine number though
Stop talking to him, offering refunds, asking for independent inspections, engine numbers, etc. All you are doing is letting him get the upper hand. While missing the point.

"It's sold as seen, bye."
Close but not quite.
Quite but not close.

TooLateForAName

4,747 posts

184 months

Sunday 27th May 2018
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Gixxer_6er said:
He's sent lots of photos from the apparent damaged engine one of which shows a hole where the Crank has basically shot itself through the casing... I just believe it was sold as running and he's somehow destroyed it on the way home. He will not send a picture of the engine number though.

He blew one up the same morning a part of me thinks it could be a completely different engine.
Seems very likely. Have you taken screen prints of that?

paintman

7,687 posts

190 months

Sunday 27th May 2018
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He's blown his own up.
He's bought yours - which I have little doubt is absolutely fine.
He's sent pics of his blown up engine which he hopes will get you to cough up for a replacement.
If you do he will fit it to his old one & flog it on or pocket the money.
He's trying to take you for a mug.

I'm also inclined to think he's bought one a long way from home to avoid you popping round & seeing your old bike intact & fine or seeing him riding it around.


Edited by paintman on Sunday 27th May 11:01

rigga

8,730 posts

201 months

Sunday 27th May 2018
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Also why he won't send pictures of the engine number of the blown motor, he's trying it on.

paintman

7,687 posts

190 months

Sunday 27th May 2018
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Photoshop & other internettrickery means you need to be careful of a photo purporting to be your engine number on the blown engine.

I'd suggest your communications should be concluded with your offer withdrawn & if he wishes to take you to court then let him get on with it.
I think court would be highly unlikely & you'd be wanting the engine produced.
Someone who knows what they're talking about legally will no doubt be along shortly to correct me smile

Sad Ken

623 posts

110 months

Wednesday 30th May 2018
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Personally I would withdraw your offer, and offer a multi pack of Curly Wurlies as a goodwill gesture to conclude the matter.

Piss taking fker. Definitely a scam attempt.

2Btoo

3,426 posts

203 months

Wednesday 30th May 2018
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LarsG said:
The only legal rights he has under the Consumer Act are:

The seller must have the right to sell the car/motorcycle.
The vehicle/motorcycle should match the description given by the seller.
The car/motorcyclemust be roadworthy – it is a criminal offence to sell an unroadworthy car/motorcycle and an MOT certificate from a test several months ago is no guarantee that the car/motorcycle is roadworthy today.
How can anyone ever sell something that has failed an MOT then? Or sell a car for breaking?

fido

16,797 posts

255 months

Wednesday 30th May 2018
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^I think that's for dealers - you can sell a car and describe it as having no MOT!

TwistingMyMelon

6,385 posts

205 months

Wednesday 30th May 2018
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Ignore everything bar any court correspondence

Keep records of the ad and note down his inspection

Job Jobbed

otolith

56,134 posts

204 months

Wednesday 30th May 2018
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Gixxer_6er said:
He's sent lots of photos from the apparent damaged
Stick the photos in Tineye or google reverse image search. See if he's got them off the internet.

Burwood

18,709 posts

246 months

Wednesday 30th May 2018
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otolith said:
Gixxer_6er said:
He's sent lots of photos from the apparent damaged
Stick the photos in Tineye or google reverse image search. See if he's got them off the internet.
Yep. Very easy to ch€ck this. Op, you’re involved in an attempted con. It’s been doing the rounds this one. And I guarantee this clown has previous form

Pothole

34,367 posts

282 months

Wednesday 30th May 2018
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OP, you've had the only advice you need. Tell him to do one or take you to court. He hasn't a leg to stand on and will lose.

Byker28i

59,820 posts

217 months

Wednesday 30th May 2018
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otolith said:
Gixxer_6er said:
He's sent lots of photos from the apparent damaged
Stick the photos in Tineye or google reverse image search. See if he's got them off the internet.
Was going to be my suggestion
https://www.google.co.uk/imghp?hl=en&tab=wi
Click the camera search the images sent you...