IOM TT 2018 Car Lap record run?
Discussion
Red 4 said:
Welshbeef said:
The 919 is a Le Mans racer so think 24hrs at sprint pace without issue.
It’s dimensions are smaller than the Suburu
So um - oh yes active aero and 1,400bhp
I’d assume it will be biblically quicker - maybe a 10minute flag laptime.
A 10 minute lap time equates to an average speed of 220 MPH.It’s dimensions are smaller than the Suburu
So um - oh yes active aero and 1,400bhp
I’d assume it will be biblically quicker - maybe a 10minute flag laptime.
I'll say that again. Average.
On a road circuit.
A very narrow road circuit with many corners, bumps, undulations, etc etc which leaves pretty much zero room for error.
Which kamikaze pilot will be driving said Porsche ?
Maybe Tesla might try but that’s a point and squirt thing and 38 odd miles at maximum attack may leave the car stranded.
GravelBen said:
No, but some bikers like to exaggerate the cars power. Next year they'll be saying 750bhp, and the year after it will be 800.
Press release before the event said 550bhp, IIRC the team mentioned winding the boost up and having more like 600 for the final run.
From memory it topped out at 168mph due to drag, so the bikes were creaming it for straight line speed and the car was taking time back braking and cornering (but obviously not enough to match the overall time).
A car can still get 4 people around the TT course a heap faster than a bike though!
And it never did that final run so a 550bhp did 128/129mph average speedPress release before the event said 550bhp, IIRC the team mentioned winding the boost up and having more like 600 for the final run.
From memory it topped out at 168mph due to drag, so the bikes were creaming it for straight line speed and the car was taking time back braking and cornering (but obviously not enough to match the overall time).
A car can still get 4 people around the TT course a heap faster than a bike though!
otolith said:
Yes, the question is why Porsche would think it would sell more cars.
But Porsche has more race wins in more race categories over a longer period of time than any other brand by a massive margin. It’s a racing brand they are proud of that and deservedly so - why do you think they made the 919 Evo to showboat what the car could do with the restrictions that LMP1 removed. It’s a wonderful car a feat of engineering.
However if Porsche engineers were given free reign to build a “car” with the sole reason for being to be able to drive 6 laps of the IOMTT and achieve the fastest physically possible average speed/laptime
Porsche held and holds the fastest Green Hell racing and qualifying time period
Porsche 919Evo is what 1min 30-45seconds quicker than any other vehicle.
The battle of the hybrid Supercars - La Ferrari didn’t set a time, McLaren tried and without any evidence simply stated they did it under 7mins and deffo beat the Porsche..... but refused to state the time nor show a video verifying it. Porsche put the video out first no questions
Porsche 911 GT2 RS magical ring time
The Moby Dick
The 917 / didn’t that model race unchanged for 7-8 years and beat ALL opposition.
Highest ever number of Le Mans victories
Highest number of racing laps
Highest number of racing wins ever
Porsche brand is built on Motorsport and it’s success
Porsche road cars are rejoiced
And I’m not a fanboy of Pork (would certainly own one)
Porsche 919Evo is what 1min 30-45seconds quicker than any other vehicle.
The battle of the hybrid Supercars - La Ferrari didn’t set a time, McLaren tried and without any evidence simply stated they did it under 7mins and deffo beat the Porsche..... but refused to state the time nor show a video verifying it. Porsche put the video out first no questions
Porsche 911 GT2 RS magical ring time
The Moby Dick
The 917 / didn’t that model race unchanged for 7-8 years and beat ALL opposition.
Highest ever number of Le Mans victories
Highest number of racing laps
Highest number of racing wins ever
Porsche brand is built on Motorsport and it’s success
Porsche road cars are rejoiced
And I’m not a fanboy of Pork (would certainly own one)
otolith said:
Yeah, so they add one more lap record, and damage the egos of a lot of potential customers who like to think nothing is faster than a bike. It would piss a load of bike people off and prove nothing relevant to anyone else other than it’s quicker than a souped up Jap saloon and an old Rover. Oh, and some bikes.
Not saying I wouldn’t like to see how fast a properly quick car can do it, just that I don’t see what’s in it for Porsche.
Porsche don’t sell motorbikes do they.... Not saying I wouldn’t like to see how fast a properly quick car can do it, just that I don’t see what’s in it for Porsche.
otolith said:
No. But bikers buy Porsches.
I thought bikers were all burley hairy chested types who had thick skin - you portray them as millennial snowflakes. I really wouldn’t worry and suspect Porsche not want weak snowflakes as their target market
Mods and rockers - fighting , don’t think we’ve ever seen the same in the car fraternity. Actually if you pissed on a Mods chips (not an Internet forum bod who cleans up threads haha)
DoubleD said:
f1nn said:
DoubleD said:
Yeah, it looks like it be very interesting for about 20 mins, then I would get rather bored. Corners are where the fun is.
You’re in luck then, over 200 corners per lap at the TT.G13NVL said:
Oh there’s plenty of corners to choose from! And some insane crashes, 1:40 and 2:50 for instance.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=J-7PR81EOdU
To be honest watching most motorsport in person can be boring sometimes. One of the most disappointing races I watched was the f1 at silverstone, sat in a grand stand miles away cars don’t even look like they are going fast would rather watch on tv!
I had to turn that off those poor bikers horrific. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=J-7PR81EOdU
To be honest watching most motorsport in person can be boring sometimes. One of the most disappointing races I watched was the f1 at silverstone, sat in a grand stand miles away cars don’t even look like they are going fast would rather watch on tv!
ZX10R NIN said:
Both a Performante & GT3 tried having fun with 1000cc Sportsbikes on the island last year both got caught out by the bumps which resulted with the GT3 in a field & the Performante taking it's front bumper off after a spin.
I would be interesting to see, the old 12C was slower around Cadwell (which as close as you'll get for a comparison to the TT course) than the 1199 which wasn't the best bike back then.
But different to a racing driver in one of those cars I would be interesting to see, the old 12C was slower around Cadwell (which as close as you'll get for a comparison to the TT course) than the 1199 which wasn't the best bike back then.
wormus said:
Agreed by whom? A bunch of PH idiots, who’ve never been to the IOM?
No disrespect, just making a general point that many PHers make stuff up.
Relative to the ring how more or less bumpy is the TT given you know TT and I’d wager have been to the ring?No disrespect, just making a general point that many PHers make stuff up.
Edited by wormus on Thursday 22 August 19:45
RobM77 said:
As I stated earlier in the thread, a Moto GP bike with over 1600bhp/tonne is five seconds slower (which is forever in motorsport) around Silverstone than a FRenault with 420bhp/tonne and very little downforce; both running slicks. It's not even close.But, as someone stated above, this is missing the point - performance is only one facet. Bikes are enormous fun and are far better for spectators when they race. They also sound incredible with their high revving engines. I can't see why people get so upset about them being slower; they're better in almost all other "PH" type measures.
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