RE: Ferrari 488 Pista: Driven

RE: Ferrari 488 Pista: Driven

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Kenny Powers

2,618 posts

128 months

Thursday 7th June 2018
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I’ve never really understood the apparent distain for super rare cars that are almost impossible to come by, and then sell used for crazy money. The unatainability is what makes them special. If you need to have been Enzo’s best man in order to get an allocation slot, so be it. If you weren’t, then move on and something else. If you’re not good enough for that car either, then buy a Mondeo and suck it down biggrin

Some people act like they’re entitled to everything they want.

WCZ

10,538 posts

195 months

Thursday 7th June 2018
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Durzel said:
Unlike the Speciale the Pista is a limited production run. They won't ever be list price for anyone who hasn't already been given an allocation.

Pista will be £350k+ on the open market, probably more like £400k I think in the short term. Pista Aperta when it inevitably appears another £100k++ on top of that.
closer to 400 for sure, you can easily spec one to £300k+


Maldini35

2,913 posts

189 months

Thursday 7th June 2018
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isaldiri said:
Quite seriously, what were you expecting? The 488 is already a hugely capable and quick car and far more so in many respects than the 458. that the pista is a sharper and more exciting to drive version of an already awfully good car isn't enough?
It’s not about what I was expecting - I was just reading between the lines of Matt Priors review to answer a question from a fellow poster.
It’s clearly a wonderful car but maybe not as radically different as Ferrari’s PR team made out when they revealed it at Geneva.
Prior clearly thought it was great but he was also managing expectations a bit.



Davey S2

13,097 posts

255 months

Thursday 7th June 2018
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WCZ said:
Durzel said:
Unlike the Speciale the Pista is a limited production run. They won't ever be list price for anyone who hasn't already been given an allocation.

Pista will be £350k+ on the open market, probably more like £400k I think in the short term. Pista Aperta when it inevitably appears another £100k++ on top of that.
closer to 400 for sure, you can easily spec one to £300k+
And the rest. A GT2RS with decent spec is around £250K and used cars have been advertised for north of £500K (and seemingly selling).

Overs on these cars will be massive.

bertie

8,550 posts

285 months

Thursday 7th June 2018
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isaldiri said:
Maldini35 said:
tim milne said:
Am I reading this wrong or is the general tenet of this story is that the Pista isn't wildly different from the 488?

Which is at odds with the way it was presented at launch a few months back, where the Pista was presented as a thorough re-working of the base model.

Is this just so much spin or does a different understanding genuinely emerge from journalists actually driving the car rather than paraphrasing what Ferrari say in the press release?
Well, it’s no secret that Ferrari effectively blackball any journalist with the temerity to criticise their cars, so Prior’s implication that this is ‘a good car made a bit better’ rather than anything more radical is probably as far as he can go without his future invitations disappearing.
Quite seriously, what were you expecting? The 488 is already a hugely capable and quick car and far more so in many respects than the 458. that the pista is a sharper and more exciting to drive version of an already awfully good car isn't enough?
Top Gear brief review by Chris Harris says "...just be aware that this car drives far differently to the base GTB."


99dndd

2,091 posts

90 months

Thursday 7th June 2018
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epom said:
So when you leave the other cars behind in your dust do you open the window and say.... hasta la pista, baby !!
I've seen a lot of puns based on the Pista's name but that's the best one by a mile.

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Omega1987

38 posts

73 months

Thursday 7th June 2018
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My vote goes to the BMW–PSA Prince engine. I've had two cars with this mill now, one in THP156 and the other THP208 form and they were both amazingly fuel efficient, smooth and powerful. The later engines seem (touch wood) very reliable also.

BlackPrince

1,271 posts

170 months

Thursday 7th June 2018
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The people that buy this car WANT it in the same way the people that buy a GT2 RS WANT that car - this isn't cross-shopping a Honda CRV against a Toyota RAV4.

I have to say that evo's review of Andy's P1 GTR really illuminated what can be done with a turbo engine. They basically said that the P1 doesn't have a tuneful, melodious engine but it is very characterful with the turbos hissing and so forth. A shame that Ferrari don't realize that an FI engine can never have the character of a NA engine despite all their attempts to disguise rather than highlight the character of the turbo (of course I haven't driven a Pista nor even a standard 488 so this is all hearsay based on magazine tests)

ChocolateFrog

25,507 posts

174 months

Thursday 7th June 2018
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2 seconds faster than a Speciale, I'll take the Speciale thanks.

epom

11,554 posts

162 months

Thursday 7th June 2018
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99dndd said:
epom said:
So when you leave the other cars behind in your dust do you open the window and say.... hasta la pista, baby !!
I've seen a lot of puns based on the Pista's name but that's the best one by a mile.

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Mackofthejungle

1,073 posts

196 months

Friday 8th June 2018
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bertie said:
Top Gear brief review by Chris Harris says "...just be aware that this car drives far differently to the base GTB."
Harris sold out years ago - been talking pish ever since.

isaldiri

18,616 posts

169 months

Friday 8th June 2018
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Mackofthejungle said:
Harris sold out years ago - been talking pish ever since.
Agreed.

Durzel

12,276 posts

169 months

Friday 8th June 2018
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He was blackballed by Ferrari at one point, and now isn't.


Kenny Powers

2,618 posts

128 months

Friday 8th June 2018
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Everything is affected by relationships and influence. It’s no surprise that journalism is the same. This is part of life. I agree that Harris is wearing the corporate hat these days, but personally I still enjoy watching him.

bertie

8,550 posts

285 months

Friday 8th June 2018
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greenarrow

3,601 posts

118 months

Friday 8th June 2018
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..So we probably have this year's runner up for ECOTY if they do it properly this time, the winner being the 991.2 GT3RS.......

..Cant make up my mind if this would be my current Ferrari entry to my dream garage, or the Ferrari Superfast

Wah

47 posts

167 months

Friday 8th June 2018
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If my numbers came up and I could buy one brand new car, this would be it.

BlackPrince

1,271 posts

170 months

Saturday 9th June 2018
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greenarrow said:
..So we probably have this year's runner up for ECOTY if they do it properly this time, the winner being the 991.2 GT3RS.......

..Cant make up my mind if this would be my current Ferrari entry to my dream garage, or the Ferrari Superfast
This does look sensational but the Superfast has an NA V12 engine - a configuration that probably wont be around for much longer!

brightbluesmurf

78 posts

75 months

Sunday 10th June 2018
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It's a very disappointing car isn't it if you pit it against the 720s? Then there's the 7xx LT soon from McLaren to put the Ferrari to bed where it belongs.

It's a car that's out of date already.