RE: New Suzuki Jimny leaked

[Dan W.]

Mexman said:

1000 units only being imported into UK per annum.
We have a Suzuki franchise on our site, and the sales team are so frustrated.
They are taking orders with absolutely no idea when/if the cars will ever arrive!
Imagine selling a car, with no flaming idea when/if you will ever get paid commission for it.
First UK allocation is already virtually sold, any demos registered, are currently, not likely to become available for sale any time soon.

Demos are to be kept for 12 months no exceptions, basically they know if you sell it you wont have another to show off lol

[SL22]

Dan W. said:

Its shocking

We have about 40 test drives booked on the jimny and we are getting an allocation of 2 until April.


we cant even take orders as we have no idea of what stock we will get and when, Even Suzuki are pretty much trying to admit we wont be able to supply cars to people so just put them towards the ignis or vitara.

Obviously these cars for dealers are going to be both the easiest sell ever and the most difficult sell ever...easiest, that people really do want to buy one, most difficult in that Suzuki UK have made a monumental cock-up with their ability to supply. It’s not like a limited edition supercar where owners order and expect a wait, I can see a prospective Jimny owner taking the hump if they are told it’ll be 2020 before any chance of them getting one. In this day and age of social media it wouldn’t take many disgruntled customers to cause a fuss and Suzuki to be on the wrong end of bad publicity.

[Dan W.]

SL22 said:

Dan W. said:

Its shocking

We have about 40 test drives booked on the jimny and we are getting an allocation of 2 until April.


we cant even take orders as we have no idea of what stock we will get and when, Even Suzuki are pretty much trying to admit we wont be able to supply cars to people so just put them towards the ignis or vitara.

Obviously these cars for dealers are going to be both the easiest sell ever and the most difficult sell ever...easiest, that people really do want to buy one, most difficult in that Suzuki UK have made a monumental cock-up with their ability to supply. It’s not like a limited edition supercar where owners order and expect a wait, I can see a prospective Jimny owner taking the hump if they are told it’ll be 2020 before any chance of them getting one. In this day and age of social media it wouldn’t take many disgruntled customers to cause a fuss and Suzuki to be on the wrong end of bad publicity.

I think we have pissed off a lot of new to us customers because we have been honest and upfront, told them the cars we are getting will be offered to existing jimny owners, then to existing owners, and then to all the rest.

shame to say it but its unlikely we could supply a jimny to any new customers for a hell of a long time.

and I believe it more likely the jimny wont be in the uk by 2020 due to emissions regulations and the current engine not passing those.

[Bill]

SL22 said:

Obviously these cars for dealers are going to be both the easiest sell ever and the most difficult sell ever...easiest, that people really do want to buy one, most difficult in that Suzuki UK have made a monumental cock-up with their ability to supply. It’s not like a limited edition supercar where owners order and expect a wait, I can see a prospective Jimny owner taking the hump if they are told it’ll be 2020 before any chance of them getting one. In this day and age of social media it wouldn’t take many disgruntled customers to cause a fuss and Suzuki to be on the wrong end of bad publicity.

I can't see where the bad publicity is in everyone knowing you can't make enough cars to sell.

[Mexman]

Suzuki will be supplying there own markets first, ie, Japan and other large markets.
The UK, will be right down the list near the bottom, as production lines have to be changed to cater for the European market.
Also, the exchange rate, and high transportation fees and import duties into the UK make it a less profitable market.
Suzuki will prefer to serve and deliver there home markets first ,where the higher profits and easier manufacturing process is.

Edited by Mexman on Friday 14th December 18:59

[RATATTAK]

Suzuki and local dealership have been very fair with me ... I was offered a black steel wheeled Jimny and a good px on one of my vehicles after a test drive yesterday

[Dan W.]

ash73 said:

Dan W. said:

the cars we are getting will be offered to existing jimny owners, then to existing owners, and then to all the rest.

Why would you do that?

And if supply is so limited why not put the price up a few £K? Then you can put the profit into making some more

we want jimnys as part exchange, and you cant charge more than list price for a new car.

plus its only fair to our existing customers that they get first pick

[funinhounslow]

Dan W. said:

Its shocking

We have about 40 test drives booked on the jimny and we are getting an allocation of 2 until April.


we cant even take orders as we have no idea of what stock we will get and when, Even Suzuki are pretty much trying to admit we wont be able to supply cars to people so just put them towards the ignis or vitara.

But wouldn't a significant proportion of people test driving a Jimny be better off in an Ignis or Vitara anyway?

[Dan W.]

funinhounslow said:

Dan W. said:

Its shocking

We have about 40 test drives booked on the jimny and we are getting an allocation of 2 until April.


we cant even take orders as we have no idea of what stock we will get and when, Even Suzuki are pretty much trying to admit we wont be able to supply cars to people so just put them towards the ignis or vitara.

But wouldn't a significant proportion of people test driving a Jimny be better off in an Ignis or Vitara anyway?

possibly yes, the ignis is a great little car, but people want the jimny because its just so different and because it can actually go off road. ignis not so much

[300bhp/ton]

funinhounslow said:

But wouldn't a significant proportion of people test driving a Jimny be better off in an Ignis or Vitara anyway?

Isn’t that true about most interesting cars though. A Mazda 3 is far more practical than an MX-5....

[Bill]

OTOH an MX5 is a better road car than a 3.

[cptsideways]

300bhp/ton said:

funinhounslow said:

But wouldn't a significant proportion of people test driving a Jimny be better off in an Ignis or Vitara anyway?

Isn’t that true about most interesting cars though. A Mazda 3 is far more practical than an MX-5....

But an MX5 is far more practical at this time of year too though, just like the Jimny

[Bill]

Good point, well made.

[cailean]

Dan W. said:

ash73 said:

Dan W. said:

the cars we are getting will be offered to existing jimny owners, then to existing owners, and then to all the rest.

Why would you do that?

And if supply is so limited why not put the price up a few £K? Then you can put the profit into making some more

we want jimnys as part exchange, and you cant charge more than list price for a new car.

plus its only fair to our existing customers that they get first pick

But aren't dealers already charging more than list? My local dealer has a 'used' one for sale at £19,999.

[cailean]

funinhounslow said:

Dan W. said:

Its shocking

We have about 40 test drives booked on the jimny and we are getting an allocation of 2 until April.


we cant even take orders as we have no idea of what stock we will get and when, Even Suzuki are pretty much trying to admit we wont be able to supply cars to people so just put them towards the ignis or vitara.

But wouldn't a significant proportion of people test driving a Jimny be better off in an Ignis or Vitara anyway?

I suspect many people who are 'interested' will realise (before or after purchase) that it is too small and the road manners are not suitable to them for their day to day real world use.

[cailean]

Dan W. said:

SL22 said:

Dan W. said:

Its shocking

We have about 40 test drives booked on the jimny and we are getting an allocation of 2 until April.


we cant even take orders as we have no idea of what stock we will get and when, Even Suzuki are pretty much trying to admit we wont be able to supply cars to people so just put them towards the ignis or vitara.

Obviously these cars for dealers are going to be both the easiest sell ever and the most difficult sell ever...easiest, that people really do want to buy one, most difficult in that Suzuki UK have made a monumental cock-up with their ability to supply. It’s not like a limited edition supercar where owners order and expect a wait, I can see a prospective Jimny owner taking the hump if they are told it’ll be 2020 before any chance of them getting one. In this day and age of social media it wouldn’t take many disgruntled customers to cause a fuss and Suzuki to be on the wrong end of bad publicity.

I think we have pissed off a lot of new to us customers because we have been honest and upfront, told them the cars we are getting will be offered to existing jimny owners, then to existing owners, and then to all the rest.

shame to say it but its unlikely we could supply a jimny to any new customers for a hell of a long time.

and I believe it more likely the jimny wont be in the uk by 2020 due to emissions regulations and the current engine not passing those.

There is talk of the engine being changed by then so it will continue to be sold in the UK.

[Butter Face]

cailean said:

Dan W. said:

ash73 said:

Dan W. said:

the cars we are getting will be offered to existing jimny owners, then to existing owners, and then to all the rest.

Why would you do that?

And if supply is so limited why not put the price up a few £K? Then you can put the profit into making some more

we want jimnys as part exchange, and you cant charge more than list price for a new car.

plus its only fair to our existing customers that they get first pick

But aren't dealers already charging more than list? My local dealer has a 'used' one for sale at £19,999.

You can sell a used car (i.e already registered) for as much as you like as long as you don't fall foul of the new car supply order terms. New car RRP is set by manufacturer and selling above that for brand new cars is not allowed.

[funinhounslow]

300bhp/ton said:

funinhounslow said:

But wouldn't a significant proportion of people test driving a Jimny be better off in an Ignis or Vitara anyway?

Isn’t that true about most interesting cars though. A Mazda 3 is far more practical than an MX-5....

But you're comparing a 2 seat convertible with a hatchback. Unless you live on a farm or work in a quarry, the only advantage the Jinmy has over the Ignis seems to be that it looks cooler... You need to balance that against the significant price difference and the Jimny's compromised on road performance.

[Dan W.]

cailean said:

Dan W. said:

ash73 said:

Dan W. said:

the cars we are getting will be offered to existing jimny owners, then to existing owners, and then to all the rest.

Why would you do that?

And if supply is so limited why not put the price up a few £K? Then you can put the profit into making some more

we want jimnys as part exchange, and you cant charge more than list price for a new car.

plus its only fair to our existing customers that they get first pick

But aren't dealers already charging more than list? My local dealer has a 'used' one for sale at £19,999.

used cars yes you can charge what you like as the garage owns the car not Suzuki, you cant charge more than list price for a new car,

[Dan W.]

cailean said:

Dan W. said:

SL22 said:

Dan W. said:

Its shocking

We have about 40 test drives booked on the jimny and we are getting an allocation of 2 until April.


we cant even take orders as we have no idea of what stock we will get and when, Even Suzuki are pretty much trying to admit we wont be able to supply cars to people so just put them towards the ignis or vitara.

Obviously these cars for dealers are going to be both the easiest sell ever and the most difficult sell ever...easiest, that people really do want to buy one, most difficult in that Suzuki UK have made a monumental cock-up with their ability to supply. It’s not like a limited edition supercar where owners order and expect a wait, I can see a prospective Jimny owner taking the hump if they are told it’ll be 2020 before any chance of them getting one. In this day and age of social media it wouldn’t take many disgruntled customers to cause a fuss and Suzuki to be on the wrong end of bad publicity.

I think we have pissed off a lot of new to us customers because we have been honest and upfront, told them the cars we are getting will be offered to existing jimny owners, then to existing owners, and then to all the rest.

shame to say it but its unlikely we could supply a jimny to any new customers for a hell of a long time.

and I believe it more likely the jimny wont be in the uk by 2020 due to emissions regulations and the current engine not passing those.

There is talk of the engine being changed by then so it will continue to be sold in the UK.

hope so would be great to see it continue.