RE: New Suzuki Jimny leaked
Discussion
SL22 said:
Dan W. said:
n_const said:
Be interested to hear which dealer this is. 250/300 units available to sell until at least June , can only sell from your allocation (we have 6 . 2 demos 4 to sell ) I don't know what you've "ordered" as you cant order anything.
^ Yupwe have had similar conversations with customers who said they have ordered a car elsewhere, have to tell them they have placed a deposit to be offered a car which may or may not be what you want you are not ordering a car.
As Dan said every dealer knows their allocation. We cannot place an order for a Jimny that is not in our allocation , there are going to be some unhappy customers having paid a deposit expecting a car. I have been turning people away , had a guy get a bit shirty last week as he wanted to order two and I told him no chance.
300bhp/ton said:
Road performance really isn’t that compromised tbh. It’ll get from A to B perfectly fine. And it’s still a pretty cheap vehicle in the grand scheme of things. It will also be easy to park due to its body shape. And have a commanding driving position, even if it’s not overly tall.
Well reviews have said it's choppy over uneven surfaces, rolls in corners and is tiring on motorways. Long gear throw and steering ratio will make it a chore in town. And that side hinged tailgate with spare on the back will be a PITA in towns, though this last point is academic as the boot is non existent...I get the appeal of this car, but in the real world unless you're routinely going to be driving up mountains the £11k Ignis is a far better bet. Set up for road use, 5 doors and without the added weight and complexity of an unneeded 4WD system...
n_const said:
As Dan said every dealer knows their allocation. We cannot place an order for a Jimny that is not in our allocation , there are going to be some unhappy customers having paid a deposit expecting a car. I have been turning people away , had a guy get a bit shirty last week as he wanted to order two and I told him no chance.
Its such a frustration, we have already taken a couple more deposits to offer them our next batch, and likewise turning others away and some just cant understand you cant actually order them, Suzuki have had a shocker here.Dan W. said:
Its such a frustration, we have already taken a couple more deposits to offer them our next batch, and likewise turning others away and some just cant understand you cant actually order them, Suzuki have had a shocker here.
I dont want the hassle so not taking any deposits unless the car is physical/allocation and not sold, told my sales guys the same. This whole year has been a joke tbh.In reality as many others have said , the Ignis/Vitara allgrip is a much better choice !!
funinhounslow said:
Well reviews have said...
Honestly, who gives a s
t what a car journalist has to say. They're mostly very dull people who spend 80% of their time driving VAG identikits to which everything else is then compared. I had a Jeep Wrangler when I lived in Dubai which had all of these 'flaws' and then some, but it was a wonderfully mechanical thing to drive and that made it special. I'd often take it over a Porsche or the wife's LR because of these quirks. If they made a version of this that I could get the kids into we'd be all over it.
Saw one on Saturday, and had a little look round. There's a lot to like, but with such a tiny boot, it's not going to work for us. The need to take the kids and the dogs at the same time is probably a requirement for our only car.
A long wheelbase one with a bike rack on the tow bar would probably deal with almost every eventuality though. We'd just need to rent a Passat Estate for a week if went for a holiday that required a long drive.
The narrow frame, with plenty of suspension travel and tyre sidewall would be perfect for the rutted narrow country lanes of Devon.
A long wheelbase one with a bike rack on the tow bar would probably deal with almost every eventuality though. We'd just need to rent a Passat Estate for a week if went for a holiday that required a long drive.
The narrow frame, with plenty of suspension travel and tyre sidewall would be perfect for the rutted narrow country lanes of Devon.
I had a test drive in an SZ5 on Saturday, I found the ride gave me a headache and vaguely sea-sick like sensation from the floaty-ness of the suspension. Appreciate it's designed for a different role than pootling around town, but I was disappointed I couldn't justify having one for fun (in 2020!)
It's a lovely lovely looking car though, interior works really well and it's a fun gearbox and engine to work - not very refined but spot-on for the type of car.
It's a lovely lovely looking car though, interior works really well and it's a fun gearbox and engine to work - not very refined but spot-on for the type of car.
I drove one on Friday, liked it but the dealer was only offering them with mudflaps and paint protection so put the car at 19.3k which is too much for me, car was better than i expected and a big improvement on the old Jimny but may get a little tiresome as a daily driver compared to more modern cars.
That dealer told me the 1,000 units for 2019 is due to EU emissions regulations and Suzuki trying to achieve lower c02 limits, the Jimny is 153g vs just over 100 of a 1.0 boosterjet engine, no idea if this is true or not.
Anyway id be happy to wait a year or so and pick one up used.
That dealer told me the 1,000 units for 2019 is due to EU emissions regulations and Suzuki trying to achieve lower c02 limits, the Jimny is 153g vs just over 100 of a 1.0 boosterjet engine, no idea if this is true or not.
Anyway id be happy to wait a year or so and pick one up used.
TheAlastair34 said:
I drove one on Friday, liked it but the dealer was only offering them with mudflaps and paint protection so put the car at 19.3k which is too much for me, car was better than i expected and a big improvement on the old Jimny but may get a little tiresome as a daily driver compared to more modern cars.
That dealer told me the 1,000 units for 2019 is due to EU emissions regulations and Suzuki trying to achieve lower c02 limits, the Jimny is 153g vs just over 100 of a 1.0 boosterjet engine, no idea if this is true or not.
Anyway id be happy to wait a year or so and pick one up used.
Each Jimny coming into the UK/Europe carries broadly a 3000 euro levy , due to CAFE regulations. Anything over 95 g co/2 get charged £x amount per gram of co/2. Suzuki are trying to make the a few of the Boosterjet models Hybrid's for 2020 to try and reduce overall charges.That dealer told me the 1,000 units for 2019 is due to EU emissions regulations and Suzuki trying to achieve lower c02 limits, the Jimny is 153g vs just over 100 of a 1.0 boosterjet engine, no idea if this is true or not.
Anyway id be happy to wait a year or so and pick one up used.
n_const said:
Each Jimny coming into the UK/Europe carries broadly a 3000 euro levy , due to CAFE regulations. Anything over 95 g co/2 get charged £x amount per gram of co/2. Suzuki are trying to make the a few of the Boosterjet models Hybrid's for 2020 to try and reduce overall charges.
Some truth in it then!Id be happy with that booster jet in the Jimny to be fair
Just off the phone from the Suzuki dealer; their allocation is four cars and I was fourth on the list; they have a base in silver which was my second choice for delivery in March (black was first) so we are going ahead with it. They didn't take a deposit when I initially placed an "order"/expression of interest, but will now. The OH is pretty excited at the prospect of owning a new car for the first time!
tim0409 said:
Just off the phone from the Suzuki dealer; their allocation is four cars and I was fourth on the list; they have a base in silver which was my second choice for delivery in March (black was first) so we are going ahead with it. They didn't take a deposit when I initially placed an "order"/expression of interest, but will now. The OH is pretty excited at the prospect of owning a new car for the first time!
good work, enjoy the car funinhounslow said:
Well reviews have said it's choppy over uneven surfaces, rolls in corners and is tiring on motorways. Long gear throw and steering ratio will make it a chore in town. And that side hinged tailgate with spare on the back will be a PITA in towns, though this last point is academic as the boot is non existent...
I get the appeal of this car, but in the real world unless you're routinely going to be driving up mountains the £11k Ignis is a far better bet. Set up for road use, 5 doors and without the added weight and complexity of an unneeded 4WD system...
A Pug 106 has a choppy ride, with no PAS steering was a complete chore and was far worse than a Jimny on motorways.... still a pretty popular vehicle though. I get the appeal of this car, but in the real world unless you're routinely going to be driving up mountains the £11k Ignis is a far better bet. Set up for road use, 5 doors and without the added weight and complexity of an unneeded 4WD system...
cheddar said:
300bhp/ton said:
A Pug 106 has a choppy ride, with no PAS steering was a complete chore and was far worse than a Jimny on motorways.... still a pretty popular vehicle though.
Mmmm, 25 year old econo box in choppy ride scandal 
Have you ever been in a R53 MINI? Dreadful ride and suspect a Jimny is miles better. But you won't see such things published in Autocar as they will only be wanting to bash to Jimny, so look for pointless things to moan about. Sadly this is then believed by many, as exampled in this thread.
300bhp/ton said:
Have you ever been in a R53 MINI? Dreadful ride and suspect a Jimny is miles better. But you won't see such things published in Autocar as they will only be wanting to bash to Jimny, so look for pointless things to moan about. Sadly this is then believed by many, as exampled in this thread.
Fairly sure the 1st Gen MINI was widely criticised for it's dreadful ride quality when it was new, especially early Chili Pack cars having Sports Suspension + as standard and 16 or 17 inch runflats.GiveItSomeWellie said:
300bhp/ton said:
Have you ever been in a R53 MINI? Dreadful ride and suspect a Jimny is miles better. But you won't see such things published in Autocar as they will only be wanting to bash to Jimny, so look for pointless things to moan about. Sadly this is then believed by many, as exampled in this thread.
Fairly sure the 1st Gen MINI was widely criticised for it's dreadful ride quality when it was new, especially early Chili Pack cars having Sports Suspension + as standard and 16 or 17 inch runflats.
IMHO etc
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