RE: Shed of the Week: Skoda Octavia vRS

RE: Shed of the Week: Skoda Octavia vRS

Friday 8th June 2018

Shed of the Week: Skoda Octavia vRS

I'm sorry sir, but someone's stuck a Skoda badge on your Shed...



You don't see many rusty cars these days. They're still around, of course, and quite a few of them appear in this column each week, but modern carmakers have learnt the trick of hiding corrosion; it's now most commonly found (or not found) in those poor quality parts that manufacturers have deemed unimportant enough to be good targets for money-saving. You know, things like steering and suspension components and brake pipes, or unprotected structural areas snidely concealed behind painted bodykits or 'underbody protectors'.

Please excuse Shed's cynicism. This dates back to a time when visibly rusty motors were in the majority, their incontinently brown sills signalling a primal homing instinct to return to the earth. Ashes to ashes, rust to rust.

Point being, when you see rust in unexpected and depressingly visible places, like the tailgate, on relatively modern cars like this Octavia vRS estate, it comes as something of a shock.


Pundits have described the vRS as a hard car to get excited about, a car to be respected rather than revered. The vendor of this vRS, however, describes it as by far the best car he has ever owned. Shed takes the seller's view, recalling with some fondness a stupidly fast splash through a streamingly wet Lake District in a vRS hatch. These are quick, capable and extremely useful vehicles, especially in estate form, although the hatch is ridiculously roomy too.

This particular car has taken a hefty biff to the sill. Normally, a dent in this area will be ignored by MOT inspectors. They tend to be more interested in holes (as per above) but there's no sign of the brown stuff here so you should be reet.

Quality wise, you can expect a good experience with an Octavia. When the Czech marque came up for corporate absorption in 1991, Volkswagen beat Renault to the punch by promising to lift Skoda's output up to somewhere near the level of their existing VAG products, whereas the Frenchies saw it more as a budget sub-brand that would prop up and broaden La Régie's appeal.

Renault filled its range gap in 1999 by acquiring the Romanian brand Dacia. VW, meanwhile, has been pretty true to its word. When this 2003 car was new, the Octavia came third out of 137 cars in a major survey. In 2004, Skoda finished second in the JD Power Customer Satisfaction bunfight.


Fifteen years down the line, you'll be into the usual trials and tribulations involved in running any used car. Specific to this 20-valve 1.8 turbo engine, the air mass sensors and turbo dump valves go west, as do the notoriously nasty plastic water pump impellers that ruined many a VW group car at the time. Coils - goes without saying. If you decide to take this car on you'll want to see evidence of timely belt/pump changes (every 60k, Shed thinks), and then keep them up while you own it.

Although the current owner has given us a nice list of works carried out on his watch, the history previous to him is unknown. The car has clearly earned its stripes, and the owner is refreshingly transparent about its foibles and drawbacks. But Shed reckons there's still plenty of life in the old dog yet.

Talking of which, if the vRS estate was put together using a lot of the same bits and design tropes used on the Mk4 Golf, you can bet your wellies that the rear screenwash pipe will regularly drop off. Symptoms of this include an obstinately filthy screen despite your increasingly insistent heaves on the screenwash stalk, and a puzzled-looking dog that shakes itself on getting out even though it was dry on the walk. Hercule Poirot might make some sort connection between this and the rust on the tailgate. We couldn't possibly comment.

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gforceg

Original Poster:

3,524 posts

180 months

Friday 8th June 2018
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Sold. I guess someone liked it.

Cambs_Stuart

2,905 posts

85 months

Friday 8th June 2018
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Decent car and we'll written ad. Not suprised it didn't hang around.

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 8th June 2018
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Pendants' corner: they don't have dump valves.

MadDog1962

892 posts

163 months

Friday 8th June 2018
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Good cars. The vRS is even decent fun to drive too.

I'm in Athens for the week and I've noticed that there are a LOT of Skoda Octavias here (especially as taxis). What's most remarkable is how much better condition the Skoda taxis are in as compared to their Toyota Avensis bretheren.

Not surprised this one was sold quickly.

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 8th June 2018
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'Dump valves'

rolleyes

alorotom

11,963 posts

188 months

Friday 8th June 2018
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I genuinely can’t see beyond these being taxis ... taxis everywhere all over Europe ... I get that that’s actually positive but even still.

sgtBerbatov

2,597 posts

82 months

Friday 8th June 2018
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alorotom said:
I genuinely can’t see beyond these being taxis ... taxis everywhere all over Europe ... I get that that’s actually positive but even still.
Except for Birmingham where most taxi's are either Toyota Avensis's of Mercedes C Class's.

helix402

7,892 posts

183 months

Friday 8th June 2018
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Spumfry said:
Pendants' corner: they don't have dump valves.
I thought they had a black plastic Bosch recirculating dump valve as standard? (I’m not a VAG expert). The type where the diaphragm splits and is often replaced with a shiny Forge unit.

M666 EVO

1,124 posts

163 months

Friday 8th June 2018
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Spumfry said:
Pendants' corner: they don't have dump valves.
Genuine question, why does it not have a dump valve? It has a turbo?


Anyway a decent shed, if you see beyond the badge. Probably got for a grand and now will become the perfect "go to tip/cart stuff around" work horse.

What's weird is I have an estate too, of about the same vintage, with the same tail gate rust. What causes that?

yme402

395 posts

103 months

Friday 8th June 2018
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More often than not, just one panel rusting on a modern vehicle whilst the others are fairly ok, is a sign of a cheap aftermarket body panel being used after a repair as opposed to an OEM galvanised item.

Twoshoe

861 posts

185 months

Friday 8th June 2018
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Spumfry said:
Pendants' corner: they don't have dump valves.
Pedants' corner: 'Pendants' corner'?!

greenarrow

3,627 posts

118 months

Friday 8th June 2018
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I had a Passat with the 150BHP version of this engine and they do go well, but have really annoying foibles. I had the "low oil pressure warning" problem caused by the oil strainer getting clogged up (common problem that can be terminal if not treated quickly). Chasing engine management light problems and coolant temp sensors going (it has two and both mine went), in the end I dumped it and got a Mazda 6 petrol which had no engine problems at all. I used to be a fan of this shape VRS, a friend owned the Mk1 VRS and an Accord Type R and said the Honda was the more exciting car but the VRS the better all rounder- praise indeed.

court

1,487 posts

217 months

Friday 8th June 2018
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M666 EVO said:
What's weird is I have an estate too, of about the same vintage, with the same tail gate rust. What causes that?
I believe it's exactly what Shed alludes to - the one piece washer/wiper motor leaks from the inside out and about 2 years before it seizes from rusty innards it pisses washer fluid down into that part of the tailgate. The handle/number plate light/lock trim area takes the brunt of it, but you can't see behind that... You'll know when the lock starts playing up.

Edited by court on Friday 8th June 09:02

Nickp82

3,204 posts

94 months

Friday 8th June 2018
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Twoshoe said:
Pedants' corner: 'Pendants' corner'?!
This is an 'in-joke' for listeners of BBC6 Music in the mornings

Turbobanana

6,325 posts

202 months

Friday 8th June 2018
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Mine was the same as this, albeit on an '05 plate (one of the last of this shape). Tailgate was rusty on that too, the only panel that was. A rear brake caliper seized and nearly set the car on fire but apart from that, and a coil pack, it needed little.

I enjoyed owning it, it was quick but economical and made a lovely "whoosh" with a cold air intake kit when you changed gear. Despite being red it still looked smart when polished (apart from the tailgate, as mentioned). It was sold after a year because for an estate, it wasn't that roomy for the sprogs in the back. Boot was huge though - maybe I should have put them in it smile

GTEYE

2,100 posts

211 months

Friday 8th June 2018
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147k is nothing for an Octavia.

There's a series on the Car Throttle channel on You Tube about a 400,000 mile (diesel) Octavia and the cars are very well engineered.

One of the episodes he drives from London to the Nurburgring and back none stop on one tank of fuel - all within 24 hours and the car was faultless.

Solid cars!

Ynox

1,711 posts

180 months

Friday 8th June 2018
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Tailgates on these rust around the glass. I had a 2003 estate and tried getting Skoda to repair it under warranty but to no avail (this was in 2010 or so).

Coil pack wise they had a recall around 2010 / 2011 so I had a new set on them. Had one fail prior to this.

Water pump impellers go bad (get it done when the cam belt is done).

Front ARB was a bit of a problem. It ate a load of drop links and also squeaked like hell when dry (the arb has plastic sleeves on it which break and squeak).

I didn't have any problems with the mass air flow valve or recirc valves, although there's a secondary air pump which had a bit of a problem and caused the car to run rough for 20 seconds or so after start up. I didn't bother sorting this.

Overall it was a good car. I did 40k or so in mine (28k -> 70k) and liked it a lot - it was reliable even with a remap (it was running 210-215 bhp). I got rid of it for a Mazda 3 MPS and immediately regretted the lack of practicality of the Mazda.

I liked it so much I now own a 2017 Octavia vRS estate. Got to say the car has come on a lot since the mk1!


Richard-390a0

2,274 posts

92 months

Friday 8th June 2018
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court said:
M666 EVO said:
What's weird is I have an estate too, of about the same vintage, with the same tail gate rust. What causes that?
I believe it's exactly what Shed alludes to - the one piece washer/wiper motor leaks from the inside out and about 2 years before it seizes from rusty innards it pisses washer fluid down into that part of the tailgate. The handle/number plate light/lock trim area takes the brunt of it, but you can't see behind that... You'll know when the lock starts playing up.
The washer jet on these comes out of the high level brake light rather than through the motor.

The rust on mine appears to be just below the bottom edge of the window on one side only as if previously the wiper arm was fitted slightly out of alignment & hence then swept too far & rubbed through the paintwork.

culpz

4,889 posts

113 months

Friday 8th June 2018
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BAM225 said:
'Dump valves'

rolleyes
And the issue is what exactly?

kambites

67,644 posts

222 months

Friday 8th June 2018
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culpz said:
BAM225 said:
'Dump valves'

rolleyes
And the issue is what exactly?
I've come across this before. Some people think the term "dump valve" refers specifically to atmospheric blow-off type valves and not to recirculating units. I suppose there's probably no formal definition.