RE: Mitsubishi Evolution IX MR FQ-360: PH Heroes
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k me it was an expensive car to run.This car was literally my hero in my younger years. As far as i was concerned, you could stick your supercars and your premium fast saloons up your ar5e, as this was all the car i could ever want to buy, own and need.
I still appreciate them and admire them to this day, but not quite as much as i used to. As i've grown up a bit, you realise what it takes to run certain cars. These aren't exactly a walk in the park, by any means.
If i ever do get the chance and the affordability to get one, i most definitely will. However, i do find myself swaying towards WRX (STI) Impreza's these days, which certainly never used to be the case!
I still appreciate them and admire them to this day, but not quite as much as i used to. As i've grown up a bit, you realise what it takes to run certain cars. These aren't exactly a walk in the park, by any means.
If i ever do get the chance and the affordability to get one, i most definitely will. However, i do find myself swaying towards WRX (STI) Impreza's these days, which certainly never used to be the case!
My experience of comparing Imprezas to Evos ( had both at the same time for a while ), is like comparing a blunt knife to a scalpel. When I was faced with the decision to part with one of them, it was never going to be the Evo. Fair comment about running costs though, the Evo is quite a commitment financially.
Heaveho said:
My experience of comparing Imprezas to Evos ( had both at the same time for a while ), is like comparing a blunt knife to a scalpel. When I was faced with the decision to part with one of them, it was never going to be the Evo. Fair comment about running costs though, the Evo is quite a commitment financially.
I think the Evo's have always been the better cars in comparison. However, Subaru's can be bought much cheaper, will be less pricey to run and they make that lovely boxer burble. They're also a much easier proposition to get into. The Evo's the one that you really want though. It is for me, anyway.Surely they can’t be that expensive to run if you had one for summer use only and did say 3-4k miles a year max. 1 service a year would be plenty and wear and tear would be minimal....
For those saying a GT is better... I hear what you’re saying, but I’d still rather have an MR FQ badge on the back
For those saying a GT is better... I hear what you’re saying, but I’d still rather have an MR FQ badge on the back
rossub said:
Surely they can’t be that expensive to run if you had one for summer use only and did say 3-4k miles a year max. 1 service a year would be plenty and wear and tear would be minimal....
For those saying a GT is better... I hear what you’re saying, but I’d still rather have an MR FQ badge on the back
It’s Ferrari performance for Ford Focus money, there’s only one logical outcome. For those saying a GT is better... I hear what you’re saying, but I’d still rather have an MR FQ badge on the back
I use mine on track, it’s an expensive hobby, I know what I’m in for.
So far in 18 months of ownership, I’ve needed a fuel tank / pump, crank pulley, two services, all belts, new engine brace, rear diff, wheel bearing. That’s on top of fairly frequent consumables refreshment.
Can’t have any more fun for the money though, and wouldn’t swap it for many things sub-100k.
Ah but track use is a whole other level of stress on them. I’m talking about just running them as you would a daily driver, but on a low annual mileage.
I’ve had a mapped Hawkeye Impreza Spec C RA with FQ 360 power levels for 15 months/5,000 miles and all that’s had is a £600 service (inc roll bar bushes & brake pads). I’d have thought the Evo would only be marginally more expensive if it’s been looked after.
I’ve had a mapped Hawkeye Impreza Spec C RA with FQ 360 power levels for 15 months/5,000 miles and all that’s had is a £600 service (inc roll bar bushes & brake pads). I’d have thought the Evo would only be marginally more expensive if it’s been looked after.
On a day to day basis they're expensive in my experience. Just based on fuel, servicing and consumables. I did 13k miles in mine the first year I had it back in 2003 /4. In that time it had 3 dealer services, 3 sets of tyres ( admittedly I drove it far harder than anything I'd ever owned previously while " exploring " the handling capabilities ), and cost an absolute fortune in fuel. But then, when I'm in it on the IOM terrorising bikes on the mountain, none of that matters.
Just before I took it to Crete where I lived for a couple of years, it had an 18k mile service at the local Ralliart dealer. Including tyres ( again! ), MOT and tax, the bill was nearly 2k, and there was nothing wrong with it, that was just maintenance and consumables.
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However, all of the above is tempered by the the fact that, even modified to about 400 brake, it is an extraordinarily reliable car, and in that respect is cheaper in some respects than many other vehicles I could name. I absolutely trust it to get me to where I'm going, whatever the distance. Selling it would feel like losing a limb!
Just before I took it to Crete where I lived for a couple of years, it had an 18k mile service at the local Ralliart dealer. Including tyres ( again! ), MOT and tax, the bill was nearly 2k, and there was nothing wrong with it, that was just maintenance and consumables.
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However, all of the above is tempered by the the fact that, even modified to about 400 brake, it is an extraordinarily reliable car, and in that respect is cheaper in some respects than many other vehicles I could name. I absolutely trust it to get me to where I'm going, whatever the distance. Selling it would feel like losing a limb!
rossub said:
Surely they can’t be that expensive to run if you had one for summer use only and did say 3-4k miles a year max. 1 service a year would be plenty and wear and tear would be minimal....
How many people actually do that though? If i had one, i'd be driving it as much as possible, especially given that it's a 4-door saloon with an all-weather ability. I suspect that your theoretical scenario is most likely the minority aswell.A lad i know in work has had a good few of them and they're not a cheap affair, which is why there's a sudden realisation for me of what it takes to run one. I wouldn't try and kid yourself and go in with your eyes firmly open.
belleair302 said:
I remember looking at an FQ 320 when new and loved how it drove. What put me off was the very cheap interior that was shameful along with the servicing requirements. every 6,000 miles or six months. Dealers were not exactly local and I walked away to an M BMW. I still would rather buy a Subaru over a Mitsubishi....its a McRae and Burns thing!!
Intervals were 4,500 miles or 6 months...Back in 2004 I could have had one as my company car, unfortunately the mileage that I was doing at the time would have meant a service every 5 weeks or so and that was a step too far so I ended up with an Impreza.
The Scooby was a great car, but I've always thought of the Evo as "the one that got away"
culpz said:
I think the Evo's have always been the better cars in comparison. However, Subaru's can be bought much cheaper, will be less pricey to run and they make that lovely boxer burble. They're also a much easier proposition to get into. The Evo's the one that you really want though. It is for me, anyway.
As has been stated by all motoring journalists that have compared the two ! PorkRind said:
As has been stated by all motoring journalists that have compared the two !
Except EVO Magazine. From memory, they usually went for an Impreza in any comparison between the two. I still think the EVO 6 was the standout model. I bet 20 years down the line it would keep a Golf R honest along any back road. I also remember Vicky Butler Henderson lapping one quicker than one of the later EVO models on a race track, which I thought was cool.
culpz said:
rossub said:
Surely they can’t be that expensive to run if you had one for summer use only and did say 3-4k miles a year max. 1 service a year would be plenty and wear and tear would be minimal....
How many people actually do that though? If i had one, i'd be driving it as much as possible, especially given that it's a 4-door saloon with an all-weather ability. I suspect that your theoretical scenario is most likely the minority aswell.A lad i know in work has had a good few of them and they're not a cheap affair, which is why there's a sudden realisation for me of what it takes to run one. I wouldn't try and kid yourself and go in with your eyes firmly open.
Using one as a daily even over one winter will ruin the underside. Maybe you would use one a daily and drive it as much as possible, but only as much as your wallet would allow. I averaged 12mpg with my last Evo, albeit modified and not really much more than that with the lightly tuned Makinen. Personally I feel the AWD system and AYC (which I like) isn't primarily for all weather ability, but rather for brilliant traction for acceleration in the dry and for the joy of driving
greenarrow said:
Except EVO Magazine. From memory, they usually went for an Impreza in any comparison between the two.
I still think the EVO 6 was the standout model. I bet 20 years down the line it would keep a Golf R honest along any back road. I also remember Vicky Butler Henderson lapping one quicker than one of the later EVO models on a race track, which I thought was cool.
i think she beat tiff around a track in a ur quattro, too, in a vi.I still think the EVO 6 was the standout model. I bet 20 years down the line it would keep a Golf R honest along any back road. I also remember Vicky Butler Henderson lapping one quicker than one of the later EVO models on a race track, which I thought was cool.
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