RE: Mitsubishi Evolution IX MR FQ-360: PH Heroes

[culpz]

neil1jnr said:

culpz said:

rossub said:

Surely they can’t be that expensive to run if you had one for summer use only and did say 3-4k miles a year max. 1 service a year would be plenty and wear and tear would be minimal....

How many people actually do that though? If i had one, i'd be driving it as much as possible, especially given that it's a 4-door saloon with an all-weather ability. I suspect that your theoretical scenario is most likely the minority aswell.

A lad i know in work has had a good few of them and they're not a cheap affair, which is why there's a sudden realisation for me of what it takes to run one. I wouldn't try and kid yourself and go in with your eyes firmly open.

Everyone I know with an Evo has one as a toy, at least nowadays, I don't know anyone with an Evo as a daily. Go onto MLR for example and and I'd say it is the majority that uses there Evo in the scenario described, summer use only. I did with both Evo's, only taxed them April to September and do so currently with the Impreza.

Using one as a daily even over one winter will ruin the underside. Maybe you would use one a daily and drive it as much as possible, but only as much as your wallet would allow. I averaged 12mpg with my last Evo, albeit modified and not really much more than that with the lightly tuned Makinen. Personally I feel the AWD system and AYC (which I like) isn't primarily for all weather ability, but rather for brilliant traction for acceleration in the dry and for the joy of driving

Fair enough. I only know 1 lad in our head office who i believe used to daily all the one's that he's had. No idea how many miles he would generally do though, as he lived round the corner from work i think, so most miles would be track days and going out for spirited drives.

With that being said, i'd argue that, even running one as a toy and doing as little as 3-4k miles per year, it will still be fairly costly to keep going. Throwing some track days in the mix will no doubt add to that aswell. They're very reliable, but do require regular maintenance.

[The Wookie]

neil1jnr said:

Everyone I know with an Evo has one as a toy, at least nowadays, I don't know anyone with an Evo as a daily. Go onto MLR for example and and I'd say it is the majority that uses there Evo in the scenario described, summer use only. I did with both Evo's, only taxed them April to September and do so currently with the Impreza.

Using one as a daily even over one winter will ruin the underside. Maybe you would use one a daily and drive it as much as possible, but only as much as your wallet would allow. I averaged 12mpg with my last Evo, albeit modified and not really much more than that with the lightly tuned Makinen. Personally I feel the AWD system and AYC (which I like) isn't primarily for all weather ability, but rather for brilliant traction for acceleration in the dry and for the joy of driving

To be fair IX was a daily, was utterly unstoppable in the snow and epic fun. Did a few winters and the arse didn’t fall out of it (although obviously being 7 or 8 years ago it may well have done by now), it even did 25+mpg on the map I had on it.

30k a year though meant servicing it every 6 weeks which was both tedious and ruinous. For that reason alone I agree it needs to be a toy really.

[epom]

My dream would be an EVO 5 in red. I see a beauty in the classifieds for £20k. I wont be getting that one I'm afraid

[rossub]

neil1jnr said:

Everyone I know with an Evo has one as a toy, at least nowadays, I don't know anyone with an Evo as a daily. Go onto MLR for example and and I'd say it is the majority that uses there Evo in the scenario described, summer use only. I did with both Evo's, only taxed them April to September and do so currently with the Impreza.

Using one as a daily even over one winter will ruin the underside. Maybe you would use one a daily and drive it as much as possible, but only as much as your wallet would allow. I averaged 12mpg with my last Evo, albeit modified and not really much more than that with the lightly tuned Makinen. Personally I feel the AWD system and AYC (which I like) isn't primarily for all weather ability, but rather for brilliant traction for acceleration in the dry and for the joy of driving

You’ve said exactly what I came on to say. Nobody is going to buy a £24k FQ360 and kill it by piling miles on and driving it on salty roads. It’s what I also do with the Spec C - taxed in the better months only.

[Hol]

I remember seeing the first 4's, 5's and 6's rocking up on trackdays in the late 90's when the MLR was just about EX2000's. I blagged a ride in one and said im having one of these.

I joined the MLR and went looking for an E5 in 2000 and even bought a private plate for it (a cheap and unusual purchase back then), but I couldn't find a good one for my money.

A chance encounter got me into a 2dr Subaru that the owner had built up for ring trips and that was replaced three years later by the nearly new personal ride/development car of one of the best Subaru JDM mappers around at the time.

By 2008, I needed a more discreet daily driver, but I still had the Evo itch, yet to be scratched.

A random invite to participate in the MLR500 race driving a Colt hatch got me thinking how similar the AWD and hatch body shells are, so I built my own Evo Hatchback, albeit using the earlier EVO RS drivetrain.

Its a keeper.


A 360 or 9GT would be my two other choices.

Edited by Hol on Wednesday 13th June 08:05

Edited by Hol on Thursday 14th June 07:15

[WCZ]

rossub said:

You’ve said exactly what I came on to say. Nobody is going to buy a £24k FQ360 and kill it by piling miles on and driving it on salty roads. It’s what I also do with the Spec C - taxed in the better months only.

it's £30,000 for a 100bhp diesel golf with a few options these days
I know someone who has been running a 9 360 evo for a couple of years as his daily, there's some man maths there with the depreciation etc as even with 100,000 miles these are still worth something and much more than an insanely over priced diesel golf

[Rob197]

Had my 8 MR fq340 for 6 months now, massive drinking problem but so much fun. Always gets alot if attention when i go out too


No idea why my pics broken!

[zb]

PorkRind said:

I've just bought a C63 as it was the obvious car to go for next as i thought the evo suited a mid 20's man. My Vi was remapped to 350 brake and i'm not sure if its rose tinted glasses but felt every bit as quick as my current car, then again the current car has 400 kilos on the Evo. I wasnt bothered about the interior, but there were plenty of electric bits for the age of the car - it had a great driving position, pedals nicely spaced. It stopped and accelerated and went aruond corners on rails or sideways depending how how you drove it. I think if I get bored of the C63, i'll get an IX 320 or whatever and remap it up to 400. Non of the german hot hatches have the suspension that suits our b roads, the evo had perfectly damped and sprung suspension, so was firm but wouldnt stutter or skip across the road due to excessive spring/damper rates. Theyre not lathered in ESP and all that nonsense either and who cares about 4500 service intervals and 18mpg - you know what youre getting into if you do your homework and for this performance you'd expect nothing less. Its a shame there wont be another car like it and whilst time goes on those with low milage examples, values will only keep going up, hold on to them and cherish them ! The mpg in this article is also misleading, you'd more likely get 18/22 on a run and 9-13 on razz.

Edited by PorkRind on Monday 11th June 10:54

It wasn't rose tinted glasses.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQ91CKzvklc

5:17 on

Good luck keeping up.

[zb]

It's difficult explaining an Evo to anyone who hasn't had one.

I'll try.

Ever stuck your dick in crazy?

I mean the best ride you've ever had, made your dick go supernova?

Afterwards you've laid back, hands behind your head an went ahhhhhhhhhhhh?

No?

Get the fk off this thread Corsa drivers.

Evo owners. You want to tame that bh. Don't you?

[G13NVL]

zb said:

PorkRind said:

I've just bought a C63 as it was the obvious car to go for next as i thought the evo suited a mid 20's man. My Vi was remapped to 350 brake and i'm not sure if its rose tinted glasses but felt every bit as quick as my current car, then again the current car has 400 kilos on the Evo. I wasnt bothered about the interior, but there were plenty of electric bits for the age of the car - it had a great driving position, pedals nicely spaced. It stopped and accelerated and went aruond corners on rails or sideways depending how how you drove it. I think if I get bored of the C63, i'll get an IX 320 or whatever and remap it up to 400. Non of the german hot hatches have the suspension that suits our b roads, the evo had perfectly damped and sprung suspension, so was firm but wouldnt stutter or skip across the road due to excessive spring/damper rates. Theyre not lathered in ESP and all that nonsense either and who cares about 4500 service intervals and 18mpg - you know what youre getting into if you do your homework and for this performance you'd expect nothing less. Its a shame there wont be another car like it and whilst time goes on those with low milage examples, values will only keep going up, hold on to them and cherish them ! The mpg in this article is also misleading, you'd more likely get 18/22 on a run and 9-13 on razz.

Edited by PorkRind on Monday 11th June 10:54

It wasn't rose tinted glasses.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQ91CKzvklc

5:17 on

Good luck keeping up.

I went from a 350bhp Impreza to c63 and was the same boat expecting a noticeable difference in performance but not really. I think it’s because you get all the power in a big lump in the sti/evo were as the c63 is all through the Rev range and the fact the merc is much more civilised and quite inside it takes some of the ‘drama’ away from it, but watching the speedo you realise it is much faster in a straight line and never seems to run out of puff!

Also evo vs merc on that road the merc is a straight line muscle car any lighter 4wd rally rep will disappear in a few bends surprised the evo didn’t get further way sooner.

[MalcolmSmith]

Evo is of course one of the few cars with a spare clutch in the boot rather than a spare wheel.

[wjb]

MalcolmSmith said:

Evo is of course one of the few cars with a spare clutch in the boot rather than a spare wheel.

My Evo came with a paddle clutch, great for launches, not so great for daily driving.

I got it changed for an organic one, not much change out of a grand for that

[Loyly]

I can still remember my first time driving a Lancer, it was an Evolution VIII in black. Absolutely stunning machine. The enduring memory was the feeling of compliance in the tyres and suspension, and the fact it was fking quick. The engine was very keen and it didn't flap in putting the power down.

I came off a roundabout onto a tight N/S bend which straightened out past the limit point. It's such a tight bend off a fast roundabout that many cars will need a lift to settle into it. The Evo VIII rolled into the bend but that tenacious front end was hooked up and gave massive drive without hesitation. The sensation of the power feeding through the AWD system and pointing the car out of the bend was amazing. Under those same conditions, hot hatches tend to scrabble at the front and mid and rear engined cars tend to need some braking to settle the nose before putting the power on. Some small measure of genius in the Lancer circumvented that!

[Evolved]

MalcolmSmith said:

Evo is of course one of the few cars with a spare clutch in the boot rather than a spare wheel.

Not in my experience at all, well unless you drive it like a complete bafoon, then like any performance car, you can expect to be picking pieces of the clutch up.

[PorkRind]

zb said:

It wasn't rose tinted glasses.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQ91CKzvklc

5:17 on

Good luck keeping up.

I'll just have to remap the c63 to 520 brake

[Its Just Adz]

I had a FQ360 for a night, at old job we got one in and boss said take it home make sure it drives ok.
I was massively underwhelmed with it but I think that was down to not having enough time in the right roads. Fast and thirsty yes, but just didn’t gel with it.
I would love to try one again, properly this time.

[dinkel]

Drove a 6 yesterday and it was well beyond my expectations. I drive modern AMGs and Porsches and the Evo AWD system is just better. The feedback is mind blowing: like a geisha whispering. I didn't touch limits: because are there any?

Thrust is what you expect but that's not what an Evo is about. I must say the car I drove belonged to one of the leading Dutch rally/race preparation guys. Pics soon.

[Heaveho]

They aren't foolproof. I put mine off at about 100 mph at Croft in 2016, but I was asking for it. I was letting it get sideways, it was the last session and the track was dry but the rain between my 5th and 6th session meant that the curbs ( painted ), were still wet. While slightly sideways, I put the loaded up nsr onto one exiting a bend on the fastest part of the track and it was off before I could blink. Got away with it, no damage, but when they go, it happens in a heartbeat. Not something I'd expect to have to deal with under normal circumstances, to be fair.

[Terminator X]

I'm old enough to remember the Evo boys desperate for fuel in the fuel strike era given the small tank + atrocious mpg! Got a lot of love for the Evo though with my fav being the Evo 9 GT.

TX.

[dinkel]

Mitsu Evo 6:




Tachyon Motorsport & Engineering:


Owner Maarten threw me the keys of his 6.