Horses shouldn't be allowed on the country roads
Discussion
Henners said:
funkyrobot said:
Basically, its the w
ker drivers that don't like these vests.
Why thank you.ker drivers that don't like these vests. I just have issue with anyone who thinks they're special enough to want to appear to be plod, when they aint.
Horse or no horse, you might think its acceptable, good for you.
Not a remotely relevant concern or issue for the normal majority but for a few people, because of their lack of education or lack mental stability or lack of maturity or lack of something that prevents them from being a normal, balanced human it’s a problem.
You could also think of them as rubber herons. They don’t keep people away from a pond or lake but they do make something with the brain the size of a walnut change what they were planning on doing.
Henners said:
Nanook said:
Henners said:
Why thank you.
I just have issue with anyone who thinks they're special enough to want to appear to be plod, when they aint.
Horse or no horse, you might think its acceptable, good for you.
You have issue? What is the issue?I just have issue with anyone who thinks they're special enough to want to appear to be plod, when they aint.
Horse or no horse, you might think its acceptable, good for you.
Why does it upset you?
Just like some think looking very much like plod, on purpose, is perfectly fine.
Nanook said:
soupdragon1 said:
Bit of a sweeping statement there.
That's how threads about horse riders/cyclists/religion go on here.Religion tends to be a calmer world on PH though.
The interesting line tends to be - if you're pro-horse / bike, then you must be a driver hater and if you don't cycle or ride, then you must be trying to run them off the road. Or that's how it tends to read.
As a cyclist, from a family who have horses (I don't see the appeal) and plod in their numbers, it does make a funny read.
Apparently I must explain myself
funkyrobot said:
Burwood said:
And there is a special kind of horse wker who has a massive chip on their shoulders, hatred for other road users and dresses up like the police to change behaviour. Personally I think dressing like that only attracts negative attention
Why do some drivers need to change their behaviour when they think the police are nearby?ker who has a massive chip on their shoulders, hatred for other road users and dresses up like the police to change behaviour. Personally I think dressing like that only attracts negative attention
NDA said:
funkyrobot said:
Henners said:
Most are fine, the horse-walt on the other hand...
I have never understood the hatred for these. What harm are they actually doing?If you need to adjust your driving because you see these, you are doing something wrong.
I have no feelings negative or positive towards the vest wearers, you could argue if you were not doing anything iffy you would have no course to stress in any case.
I don't freak out if I pass a police car on the road.
swisstoni said:
I'm happy to be corrected by horsey types, but I suspect that horses are sometimes 'driven' on roads so as not to get them all dirty.
There's a riding school near me with a load of land surrounding. But in the winter they are usually to be found clopping down the road.
It’s not about getting them dirty, it’s probably about the chances of the horse slipping and falling or injuring its legs in boggy ground.There's a riding school near me with a load of land surrounding. But in the winter they are usually to be found clopping down the road.
Irony is, all the time spent reading and contributing to this thread is likely to be greater than the time spent being held up or slowed down by horses on the road.
I actively try to get a smile or a wave from them, means I have done my job as a driver well, I wouldn't want to be riding a tonne of tetchy beast on the road but fully support their right, as enshrined in law to do so.
So many out there seem to hate everything and everybody, cyclists, horse riders, immigrants, the poor, the rich, the fat etc etc, no time for anybody but themselves, prepared to get into a massive road rage pissing contest over a perceived sleight, delay or someone making an honest mistake just to get to home or work 2 seconds earlier.
Then sit at their desk picking their nose, surfing the net for 8 hours pretending to work, then go home and vegetate in front of the telly, ok, not everyone does that, point it, rarely are we in such a rush we cant offer a little courtesy and consideration, the time always seems to be available to get into a proper barney though.
Horses and their riders really arent a big problem and so easy to avoid any confrontation or unpleasantness, and I know they can be dicks like anyone else but rise above it as it is so easy to be the next viral video when you are being a cock.
I actively try to get a smile or a wave from them, means I have done my job as a driver well, I wouldn't want to be riding a tonne of tetchy beast on the road but fully support their right, as enshrined in law to do so.
So many out there seem to hate everything and everybody, cyclists, horse riders, immigrants, the poor, the rich, the fat etc etc, no time for anybody but themselves, prepared to get into a massive road rage pissing contest over a perceived sleight, delay or someone making an honest mistake just to get to home or work 2 seconds earlier.
Then sit at their desk picking their nose, surfing the net for 8 hours pretending to work, then go home and vegetate in front of the telly, ok, not everyone does that, point it, rarely are we in such a rush we cant offer a little courtesy and consideration, the time always seems to be available to get into a proper barney though.
Horses and their riders really arent a big problem and so easy to avoid any confrontation or unpleasantness, and I know they can be dicks like anyone else but rise above it as it is so easy to be the next viral video when you are being a cock.
swisstoni said:
I'm happy to be corrected by horsey types, but I suspect that horses are sometimes 'driven' on roads so as not to get them all dirty.
There's a riding school near me with a load of land surrounding. But in the winter they are usually to be found clopping down the road.
Nah that’s not the case anymore. It’s a lot easier cleaning them thanks to power washers. There's a riding school near me with a load of land surrounding. But in the winter they are usually to be found clopping down the road.
soupdragon1 said:
funkyrobot said:
Basically, its the wker drivers that don't like these vests. Purely because they are doing something stupid which could land them in trouble if picked up by the police.
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Bit of a sweeping statement there.ker drivers that don't like these vests. Purely because they are doing something stupid which could land them in trouble if picked up by the police.:
Person who is a w
ker driving a car. It doesn't mean all drivers.I guess you wouldn't understand that though.
Horses have followed me around like a bad smell for my whole life. I am quite convinced that were I to take employment on the moon when I got there I would be met by some ruddy-faced, fat arsed horsey woman, bellowing at me to move my space ship.
Individually they are ok, but as a whole you will struggle to find a ruder, more inconsiderate, selfish and downright difficult to deal with group of people than people with horses.
The issue with horses on the road is that they are a very large, unpredictable animal that are very easy to upset that can cause a lot of damage to rider and bystanders. So I put it to the jury that all horses taken out in public should be identifiable, should have 3rd party insurance and both rider and horse should have to at the very least have training and ideally be tested to use the roads.
Time and time again I encounter riders that are clearly not in control of their steed struggling with even very light traffic on rural roads. It is always the fault of the dog walker/cyclist/motorcyclist/driver when in my experience and from what I hear from the sensible riders, the bulk of the problem comes from a nervous rider.
Individually they are ok, but as a whole you will struggle to find a ruder, more inconsiderate, selfish and downright difficult to deal with group of people than people with horses.
The issue with horses on the road is that they are a very large, unpredictable animal that are very easy to upset that can cause a lot of damage to rider and bystanders. So I put it to the jury that all horses taken out in public should be identifiable, should have 3rd party insurance and both rider and horse should have to at the very least have training and ideally be tested to use the roads.
Time and time again I encounter riders that are clearly not in control of their steed struggling with even very light traffic on rural roads. It is always the fault of the dog walker/cyclist/motorcyclist/driver when in my experience and from what I hear from the sensible riders, the bulk of the problem comes from a nervous rider.
The OP is a genius - I nearly have a full house on my PH argumentative poster bingo card.
Everybody knows that a thread like this is going to attract the opinionated, cannot be wrong, will not back down posters who argue over everything to the absolute death. He set the trap and they all jumped in head first.
Next week the OP starts a thread on budget tyres...
Everybody knows that a thread like this is going to attract the opinionated, cannot be wrong, will not back down posters who argue over everything to the absolute death. He set the trap and they all jumped in head first.
Next week the OP starts a thread on budget tyres...
Esceptico said:
The problem is that horses existed before cars and were formerly used as the primary means of transport.
They are still allowed because of the past. If horses had never been used on the road and you tried to suggest it today there is no-way they would be allowed.
This will be the same argument when the inevitable petrol vs electric car argument ensues.They are still allowed because of the past. If horses had never been used on the road and you tried to suggest it today there is no-way they would be allowed.
Willy Nilly said:
Horses have followed me around like a bad smell for my whole life. I am quite convinced that were I to take employment on the moon when I got there I would be met by some ruddy-faced, fat arsed horsey woman, bellowing at me to move my space ship.
Individually they are ok, but as a whole you will struggle to find a ruder, more inconsiderate, selfish and downright difficult to deal with group of people than people with horses.
The issue with horses on the road is that they are a very large, unpredictable animal that are very easy to upset that can cause a lot of damage to rider and bystanders. So I put it to the jury that all horses taken out in public should be identifiable, should have 3rd party insurance and both rider and horse should have to at the very least have training and ideally be tested to use the roads.
Time and time again I encounter riders that are clearly not in control of their steed struggling with even very light traffic on rural roads. It is always the fault of the dog walker/cyclist/motorcyclist/driver when in my experience and from what I hear from the sensible riders, the bulk of the problem comes from a nervous rider.
Willy, you‘Be chosen to live in the rural idyll, work on a farm and you’re surprised that you see as many horses as a backstreet abattoir does?Individually they are ok, but as a whole you will struggle to find a ruder, more inconsiderate, selfish and downright difficult to deal with group of people than people with horses.
The issue with horses on the road is that they are a very large, unpredictable animal that are very easy to upset that can cause a lot of damage to rider and bystanders. So I put it to the jury that all horses taken out in public should be identifiable, should have 3rd party insurance and both rider and horse should have to at the very least have training and ideally be tested to use the roads.
Time and time again I encounter riders that are clearly not in control of their steed struggling with even very light traffic on rural roads. It is always the fault of the dog walker/cyclist/motorcyclist/driver when in my experience and from what I hear from the sensible riders, the bulk of the problem comes from a nervous rider.
My guess is that people who live and work where there are no horses may see fewer?
But it’s not about the horses is it but rather you’re issue with feeling that everyone on the planet is looking down on you whether from a horse, SUV or comatose in the gutter.
InductionRoar said:
The OP is a genius - I nearly have a full house on my PH argumentative poster bingo card.
Everybody knows that a thread like this is going to attract the opinionated, cannot be wrong, will not back down posters who argue over everything to the absolute death. He set the trap and they all jumped in head first.
Next week the OP starts a thread on budget tyres...
Apparently the thread also attracts observational comments from posters with zero self-awareness who believe they are above the melee but actually they too, post in virtually every thread. See also: "Is this thread still going?" "It must be half-term" etc etcEverybody knows that a thread like this is going to attract the opinionated, cannot be wrong, will not back down posters who argue over everything to the absolute death. He set the trap and they all jumped in head first.
Next week the OP starts a thread on budget tyres...
The Barron tells it straight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5WRKMwqv5Y
3 minutes 5 says it all really
3 minutes 5 says it all really
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