Horses shouldn't be allowed on the country roads
Discussion
funkyrobot said:
As a regular cyclist, that really annoys me. What sort of retard passes a horse like that?
Trouble with this sort of video is that the hard of thinking will label all cyclists as being the same. So someone like me who doesn't race, is courteous to other road users and most definitely doesn't pass horses like that, will most probably be on the receiving end of some abuse now.
Frankly it’s a bloody well behaved horse to not be having a tt about some of the closer passing cyclists on the outside.Trouble with this sort of video is that the hard of thinking will label all cyclists as being the same. So someone like me who doesn't race, is courteous to other road users and most definitely doesn't pass horses like that, will most probably be on the receiving end of some abuse now.
You can bet if some of those cyclists were passed by a car that close and at that speed differential they’d justifiably have a huge hissy fit
I can understand how it would have happened though.
Head down in a group, just following the back wheel of the bike in front of you, then look up everyone has gone to the right around a horse suddenly, your are left with nowhere to go and decide to chance it down the left side of the horse.
Not Clever but a split second decision.
Road bike brakes are poo and stopping quickly isn’t always an option.
Not justifying what happened at all but could understand how it happened.
I’m sure the last thing the person wanted to do is clip the horse.
Head down in a group, just following the back wheel of the bike in front of you, then look up everyone has gone to the right around a horse suddenly, your are left with nowhere to go and decide to chance it down the left side of the horse.
Not Clever but a split second decision.
Road bike brakes are poo and stopping quickly isn’t always an option.
Not justifying what happened at all but could understand how it happened.
I’m sure the last thing the person wanted to do is clip the horse.
jackh707 said:
I can understand how it would have happened though.
Head down in a group, just following the back wheel of the bike in front of you, then look up everyone has gone to the right around a horse suddenly, your are left with nowhere to go and decide to chance it down the left side of the horse.
Not Clever but a split second decision.
Road bike brakes are poo and stopping quickly isn’t always an option.
Not justifying what happened at all but could understand how it happened.
I’m sure the last thing the person wanted to do is clip the horse.
I suspect that’s right. Not a clever way to cycle on an open public road. Those two chaps weren’t basically aware of their surroundings or riding to the conditions and are very lucky they didn’t hurt someone. Head down in a group, just following the back wheel of the bike in front of you, then look up everyone has gone to the right around a horse suddenly, your are left with nowhere to go and decide to chance it down the left side of the horse.
Not Clever but a split second decision.
Road bike brakes are poo and stopping quickly isn’t always an option.
Not justifying what happened at all but could understand how it happened.
I’m sure the last thing the person wanted to do is clip the horse.
Gandahar said:
As horses are ridden on the road for enjoyment and bicycles are raced on the road for enjoyment I have decided to walk my dog on the road next Sunday, the middle of the A21....
Will stop my shoes getting too muddy too.
Shouldn't be a problem, most times I've been on the A21 either it's at a standstill or closed and diversion in place all over Kent.Will stop my shoes getting too muddy too.
jackh707 said:
I can understand how it would have happened though.
Head down in a group, just following the back wheel of the bike in front of you, then look up everyone has gone to the right around a horse suddenly, your are left with nowhere to go and decide to chance it down the left side of the horse.
Not Clever but a split second decision.
Wait hang on, are you saying these guys do not even look where they are going? I look where I am going at 2mph to avoid people looking at their phones.Head down in a group, just following the back wheel of the bike in front of you, then look up everyone has gone to the right around a horse suddenly, your are left with nowhere to go and decide to chance it down the left side of the horse.
Not Clever but a split second decision.
Cotty said:
Wait hang on, are you saying these guys do not even look where they are going? I look where I am going at 2mph to avoid people looking at their phones.
Even if you don't ride a bike yourself you surely must be aware that bicycle racers tend to look at the floor most of the time, especially if they are following another bike, they will just be concentrating on that bikes rear wheel and occasionally looking up! Shuvi McTupya said:
Even if you don't ride a bike yourself you surely must be aware that bicycle racers tend to look at the floor most of the time, especially if they are following another bike, they will just be concentrating on that bikes rear wheel and occasionally looking up!
Absolutely not. There is no way in hell I would blindly follow the person in front of me regardless of the situation. I used to race karts, there is no way in hell I would blindly follow the kart in front without looking to see if there is an obstacle ahead of them. I wouldn't even follow a pedestrian across a road without looking first.
Edited by Cotty on Monday 18th June 23:57
Cotty said:
Horse vs cyclists, got to be the perfect storm
http://road.cc/content/news/243742-video-horse-and...
That's all kinds of stupid, but her reaction didn't exactly help the horse to calm, did it? http://road.cc/content/news/243742-video-horse-and...
Shuvi McTupya said:
Even if you don't ride a bike yourself you surely must be aware that bicycle racers tend to look at the floor most of the time, especially if they are following another bike, they will just be concentrating on that bikes rear wheel and occasionally looking up!
In actual fact, that’s absolutely not how you ride in a bicycle race. You wouldn’t last very long if you did, and you’d be the cause of many crashes. One of the basic skills cycle racers learn is to by hyper aware and observant - the pace of the race is always changing, and like in a traffic jam, you need to be looking several to many bikes ahead to be able to anticipate what is happening. Otherwise you’ll either touch wheels with someone or pile into an obstacle at speed - both usually end with you and others on the floor. The people in that video were not good bicycle riders or good racers and need to be held to account.
Cotty said:
Absolutely not. There is no way in hell I would blindly follow the person in front of me regardless of the situation. I used to race karts, there is no way in hell I would blindly follow the kart in front without looking to see if there is an obstacle ahead of them.
I wouldn't even follow a pedestrian across a road without looking first
Understood, but it is the natural riding position.I wouldn't even follow a pedestrian across a road without looking first
Shuvi McTupya said:
Natural position on a TT bike is one thing, when the pro's do it, its on a closed road. You have to have some savvy about yourself. Inexcusable riding really. No wonder everyone hates cyclists, that said Ive never had any bother be it on my roadie,cx, Brompton or Mtb.MrTrilby said:
In actual fact, that’s absolutely not how you ride in a bicycle race. You wouldn’t last very long if you did, and you’d be the cause of many crashes. One of the basic skills cycle racers learn is to by hyper aware and observant - the pace of the race is always changing, and like in a traffic jam, you need to be looking several to many bikes ahead to be able to anticipate what is happening. Otherwise you’ll either touch wheels with someone or pile into an obstacle at speed - both usually end with you and others on the floor.
The people in that video were not good bicycle riders or good racers and need to be held to account.
Obviously they need to aware of what is going on, but in a lot of situations they are not looking where they are going..how many people in this group can see where they are going ?The people in that video were not good bicycle riders or good racers and need to be held to account.
RemyMartin81D said:
Natural position on a TT bike is one thing, when the pro's do it, its on a closed road. You have to have some savvy about yourself. Inexcusable riding really. No wonder everyone hates cyclists, that said Ive never had any bother be it on my roadie,cx, Brompton or Mtb.
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