RE: Prior Convictions: Life after the SUV

[Plug Life]

Helicopter123 said:

I like Porsche.

I couldn't get my growing family, wife, luggage, shopping, Gold Clubs, etc into the 911 so I traded it for a Cayenne.

How much Porscheness remained in the Cayenne?

[Helicopter123]

Plug Life said:

Helicopter123 said:

I like Porsche.

I couldn't get my growing family, wife, luggage, shopping, Gold Clubs, etc into the 911 so I traded it for a Cayenne.

How much Porscheness remained in the Cayenne?

Lots.

I was pleasantly surprised having been sceptical before trying one.

[nickfrog]

anonymous said:

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I still haven't seen who is supposedly being dishonest about their motivation for buying a SUV ? Who is it in this thread or otherwise?

Feel free to enlighten us please as it seems like you have painted yourself into a rhetorical corner about a "problem" that doesn't exist ?

Pothole, I think you're probably judging me by your own standards about the amusement / sport / tripping up.

Edited by nickfrog on Sunday 17th June 20:45

[nickfrog]

It would be great to bring the thread back to some kind of rational thinking.

While some SUVs are clearly heavy and thirsty, ours can return this although historical average is just over 40mpg with a lot of town driving/short trips:



A lot of it is down to the modest 1.3t weight and despite the brick shape. The engine is the 150hp 1.5 petrol which returns 8 sec to 60, not that we have ever tried. I don't know how much better we would have got with a Golf Estate for instance.

The closest MPV was the Golf SV as this is probably the biggest car we want in terms of length because of the town driving/parking. Touran would have worked for interior volume but far more expensive and too long. The other issue with the Golf SV or estate is that I couldn't do that (let alone put a second bike alongside with the bars at the front) as they are both too shallow (we have the 2wd version so no redundant 4wd bits):



Ideal for trips to BPW or the Surrey Hills with my 18-year old, and great ground clearance when there.

Anyway, the beauty of the Karoq is mainly its practically vs the Golf SV and Golf Estate or even the Octavia Estate (which was similarly priced and quite appealing).

I quite like estates but there was no compelling case for them. So we chose the Karoq. It's a white Skoda on tiny wheels so not exactly bought to impress anyone nor for status, it looks silly. Not too bothered though.

Edited by nickfrog on Sunday 17th June 21:42

[BeirutTaxi]

I bought a Cross-Over a few years ago in the shape of a Nissan Quashqai +2 1.5dci (on HP finance).

It was a very logical purchase as I needed something with large space, cheap running costs, comfort and a good finance deal. Performance and style were not heavily weighted decision criteria.

There were other cars to choose but the Quashqai came out in top - especially considering that the finance deal was almost no interest and I had boat loads of free things thrown in with it.

Don't regret my purchase either

[Shiv_P]

Willy Nilly said:

E65Ross said:

Willy Nilly said:

Shiv_P said:

People with back problems find them easier to get in and out of
People that transport elderly find them easier to load elderly

I know GB has an ageing population but there aren't that many old people buying cars. There's a fee paying school just down the road from here and at kicking out time it's like the start of the Camel Trophy

I may be mistaken, but he hasn't suggested old people are buying them?

There aren't that many people buying a particular type of car on the off chance they need to transport an old person who may or may not find it easier to get into. Let's stop pretending that they aren't bought for fashion and status, shall we?

My mum has a slipped disk in her back. She finds it considerably easier to get into and out of a higher car. That's why she replaced her C max with a tiguan
We also live with my grandparents. They find it easier to get into a higher car
I can fit my bike into a tiguan way more easily than the cmax
So yes, she didn't buy it for "fashion and status"
She bought it because it's a better car. Would I buy one? No. But I can see why you would

[TaylotS2K]

GranCab said:

RamboLambo said:

If you haven't done so recently go drive a KIA and I guarantee you it will exceed your expectation. High standard spec, great build quality and reliability.
No wonder its the biggest growing brand over the last 10 years

Quality redefined backed by a unrivalled 7 year manufacturers warranty

Says the man who works at a KIA dealership .....

To be honest I agree with RamboLambo. I've driven one or two Kia's recently they're very good, well built and I actually preferred the interior on the Sportage over the likes of the Ford Kuga. Also had a look at the Stinger in the dealership and was very impressed.

[WTFWT]

TaylotS2K said:

GranCab said:

RamboLambo said:

If you haven't done so recently go drive a KIA and I guarantee you it will exceed your expectation. High standard spec, great build quality and reliability.
No wonder its the biggest growing brand over the last 10 years

Quality redefined backed by a unrivalled 7 year manufacturers warranty

Says the man who works at a KIA dealership .....

To be honest I agree with RamboLambo. I've driven one or two Kia's recently they're very good, well built and I actually preferred the interior on the Sportage over the likes of the Ford Kuga. Also had a look at the Stinger in the dealership and was very impressed.

+1

I’ve had a few as hire cars over the past few years and am staggered at how good they have become. Not just “does what it says on the tin” but engaging to drive and enjoyable to manipulate. The last Vauxhall Insignia I had, by comparison, was so bad that my wife asked if there was something wrong It after about 10 minutes. The ride was atrocious.