ULEZ coming to Birmingham
Discussion
Grebby said:
Why would you drive into that area anyway?
Why would you ask a dim question like that?I work shifts next door to the Mailbox. I live off Jct11 of the M6. My nearest railway station is 25 minutes walk away from my house and the trains do not run at times which make them a viable form of transport for my commute. Many of my colleagues are in the same boat. As it happens I don't often drive in because I ride a motorcycle. The ULEZ plans appear to have ignored us as councils always do...
Thankyou4calling said:
I'm from London but I'm gonna speak up for Birmingham.
I often go there, it's a FANTASTIC city.
Great shopping, restaurants, interesting buildings, love the Theatre and the people.
I've always found it pretty easy to get around too.
Often those who run it down have only ever driven past on the M6 and make a judgement based on that.
Spend some time there, great place.
Don't be silly.I often go there, it's a FANTASTIC city.
Great shopping, restaurants, interesting buildings, love the Theatre and the people.
I've always found it pretty easy to get around too.
Often those who run it down have only ever driven past on the M6 and make a judgement based on that.
Spend some time there, great place.
It's because of all the darkies.
2354519y said:
Unfortunately there is no tube network to take the strain as in London. The tram network that ran from the city centre to the suburbs was torn up long ago.
Many suburban railway stations were closed too.
Not many alternatives modes of transport left.
when i was still living in Sandwell/dudley border, it took an hour bus ride to get to City center and of cause almost 20min+ for the always late bus to arrive or I could walk 20min to the nearest train station which also have a long waiting timeMany suburban railway stations were closed too.
Not many alternatives modes of transport left.
I found this ULEZ zone ridiculous as in B'Ham without any proper mass transport support, and it seem they set the ULEZ border simply with where the ring road is, i wonder what would happen to the Cineworld and big Tesco unfortunate enough to be less than a block inside the ring road border.
rigga said:
Fastdruid said:
Wobbegong said:
That’ll be great for the people living and working there 
It’ll cost workers in the zone £50 extra per week to get to work,
Only those with diesels. It’ll cost workers in the zone £50 extra per week to get to work,
The main issue is that there is a lot of high rise and social housing in the area so those who are really struggling wont be able to afford to drive anymore.
There are lots of fringe areas too that are affected, EG Bath Row, There are lots of companies here including car garages, You wont pay to get your car fixed here or tyres done if its going to cost you money to drive there.
Edited by Downward on Wednesday 20th June 22:54
kurokawa said:
when i was still living in Sandwell/dudley border, it took an hour bus ride to get to City center and of cause almost 20min+ for the always late bus to arrive or I could walk 20min to the nearest train station which also have a long waiting time
I found this ULEZ zone ridiculous as in B'Ham without any proper mass transport support, and it seem they set the ULEZ border simply with where the ring road is, i wonder what would happen to the Cineworld and big Tesco unfortunate enough to be less than a block inside the ring road border.
Shame as i go to the Cineworld. Handy because of the multi story car park next door. As well as the longlands furniture shop a little further down. I found this ULEZ zone ridiculous as in B'Ham without any proper mass transport support, and it seem they set the ULEZ border simply with where the ring road is, i wonder what would happen to the Cineworld and big Tesco unfortunate enough to be less than a block inside the ring road border.
I'm not planning on changing my 2001 petrol car for a few years yet as there is no reason to.
kurokawa said:
2354519y said:
Unfortunately there is no tube network to take the strain as in London. The tram network that ran from the city centre to the suburbs was torn up long ago.
Many suburban railway stations were closed too.
Not many alternatives modes of transport left.
when i was still living in Sandwell/dudley border, it took an hour bus ride to get to City center and of cause almost 20min+ for the always late bus to arrive or I could walk 20min to the nearest train station which also have a long waiting timeMany suburban railway stations were closed too.
Not many alternatives modes of transport left.
I found this ULEZ zone ridiculous as in B'Ham without any proper mass transport support, and it seem they set the ULEZ border simply with where the ring road is, i wonder what would happen to the Cineworld and big Tesco unfortunate enough to be less than a block inside the ring road border.
I left this great city some time ago due, amongst other things, to the crass behaviour of the local council. This isn't about trying to clean up pollution but purely money. The threat of £60 million fines if toxic levels are not cut is the driver here. The city is failing European toxicity limits almost daily!
There are significant numbers of low income families within the proposed zone who just do not have the funds to upgrade vehicles.....not that the council cares in any event. Just like there are umpteen businesses who rely on incoming traffic.....again the council just wants to squeeze every penny out of them.
As for the council itself.....it's made virtue signalling a byword for Brum. Can afford to spend half a million going to Chelsea flower show and wants to spend hundreds of thousands getting road racing back all at the expense of local residents and businesses for whom they couldn't care less. Will the race cars be exempt from the charge?
Rant over!
There are significant numbers of low income families within the proposed zone who just do not have the funds to upgrade vehicles.....not that the council cares in any event. Just like there are umpteen businesses who rely on incoming traffic.....again the council just wants to squeeze every penny out of them.
As for the council itself.....it's made virtue signalling a byword for Brum. Can afford to spend half a million going to Chelsea flower show and wants to spend hundreds of thousands getting road racing back all at the expense of local residents and businesses for whom they couldn't care less. Will the race cars be exempt from the charge?
Rant over!
Ah don't worry about it. As a natuon we are buying less on the high street just because.... It's got nothing to do with stupid ideas such as this nor the exorbitant parking charges which blight most city nowadays.
Disappointed to hear about Southampton. That is one place where parking is reasonable and means I'd soon go there than Portsmouth which is half the distance to travel (free electric at Southampton too)
Disappointed to hear about Southampton. That is one place where parking is reasonable and means I'd soon go there than Portsmouth which is half the distance to travel (free electric at Southampton too)
Pugmitch said:
I left this great city some time ago due, amongst other things, to the crass behaviour of the local council. This isn't about trying to clean up pollution but purely money. The threat of £60 million fines if toxic levels are not cut is the driver here. The city is failing European toxicity limits almost daily!
There are significant numbers of low income families within the proposed zone who just do not have the funds to upgrade vehicles.....not that the council cares in any event. Just like there are umpteen businesses who rely on incoming traffic.....again the council just wants to squeeze every penny out of them.
As for the council itself.....it's made virtue signalling a byword for Brum. Can afford to spend half a million going to Chelsea flower show and wants to spend hundreds of thousands getting road racing back all at the expense of local residents and businesses for whom they couldn't care less. Will the race cars be exempt from the charge?
Rant over!
I was with you up until the Superprix part, it's not virtue signalling at all but is a major promotion of the city which ties into the predominant local industry and is welcomed widely by residents and businesses alike. And yes, the cars will be exempt as it's a Formula E race so sits comfortably with the ethos of the ULEZ.There are significant numbers of low income families within the proposed zone who just do not have the funds to upgrade vehicles.....not that the council cares in any event. Just like there are umpteen businesses who rely on incoming traffic.....again the council just wants to squeeze every penny out of them.
As for the council itself.....it's made virtue signalling a byword for Brum. Can afford to spend half a million going to Chelsea flower show and wants to spend hundreds of thousands getting road racing back all at the expense of local residents and businesses for whom they couldn't care less. Will the race cars be exempt from the charge?
Rant over!
If you want to see bats
t crazy virtue signalling harming the residents of the city look at who they recently appointed to fulfill the role of anti radicalisation adviser to the children's securtiy overview committee, Councillor Akthar who is pro ISIS to the point even a school in the trojan horse area suspended her as governor.https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-new...
Edited by Herr Schnell on Thursday 21st June 08:17
Pugmitch said:
Will the race cars be exempt from the charge?
On a point of order, aren't they going to be electric vehicles?CooperS said:
Ah don't worry about it. As a natuon we are buying less on the high street just because.... It's got nothing to do with stupid ideas such as this nor the exorbitant parking charges which blight most city nowadays.
It's a faff getting into any town on a Saturday afternoon, I just cba with the traffic (as bad as a Monday morning commute into town) and people. If I can't get it in an out-of-town retail park at lunchtime, I'll order online.Fastdruid said:
Wobbegong said:
That’ll be great for the people living and working there
It’ll cost workers in the zone £50 extra per week to get to work,
Only those with diesels. It’ll cost workers in the zone £50 extra per week to get to work,
Birmingham is our closest venue for a lot of gigs, so that'll be a right PITA, as the trains are (a) woeful late at night in our direction; and (b) stop literally the other side of the city centre to the NIA.
...and then there's shopping. Having a car on-hand to dump a load of Xmas shopping in while you go for a nice meal is really handy.
I DO get the principle, but these blanket bans hit a lot of ordinary people too...
Thebaggers said:
Southampton are implementing this. Their key driver of air quality in the city is all the cruise liners running bunker oil to stay powered when in port.
The huge queues of HGVs sitting with their engines running while waiting to pick up the containers offloaded at the docks doesn't help either. I was under the impression that the planed zone in Southampton didn't apply to private cars? I thought it was only lorries, buses and taxis?
Pothole said:
Grebby said:
Why would you drive into that area anyway?
Why would you ask a dim question like that?I work shifts next door to the Mailbox. I live off Jct11 of the M6. My nearest railway station is 25 minutes walk away from my house and the trains do not run at times which make them a viable form of transport for my commute. Many of my colleagues are in the same boat. As it happens I don't often drive in because I ride a motorcycle. The ULEZ plans appear to have ignored us as councils always do...
The city centre will be purely student accommodation with the way things are going. Wobbegong said:
Pothole said:
Grebby said:
Why would you drive into that area anyway?
Why would you ask a dim question like that?I work shifts next door to the Mailbox. I live off Jct11 of the M6. My nearest railway station is 25 minutes walk away from my house and the trains do not run at times which make them a viable form of transport for my commute. Many of my colleagues are in the same boat. As it happens I don't often drive in because I ride a motorcycle. The ULEZ plans appear to have ignored us as councils always do...
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