ULEZ coming to Birmingham
Discussion
Meridius said:
That entire area is an absolute pain in the arse to drive in anyway, would avoid it as much as possible. Tbh they should extend the ULEZ to cars of ALL ages and maybe that would stop some of the absolute nobends who treat the ring road like a race track.
Agreed, they should extend the ULEZ threshold to electric cars onlyMeridius said:
That entire area is an absolute pain in the arse to drive in anyway, would avoid it as much as possible. Tbh they should extend the ULEZ to cars of ALL ages and maybe that would stop some of the absolute nobends who treat the ring road like a race track.
As are most such areas around the city centre of most such cities but Birmingham has woeful publicc transport and the catchment area seems quite wide so it will inevitably affect a lot of people.Thankyou4calling said:
I'm from London but I'm gonna speak up for Birmingham.
I often go there, it's a FANTASTIC city.
Great shopping, restaurants, interesting buildings, love the Theatre and the people.
I've always found it pretty easy to get around too.
Often those who run it down have only ever driven past on the M6 and make a judgement based on that.
Spend some time there, great place.
Which part of London are you from if you think here in Birmingham is a fantastic city in any shape or form whatsoever? I often go there, it's a FANTASTIC city.
Great shopping, restaurants, interesting buildings, love the Theatre and the people.
I've always found it pretty easy to get around too.
Often those who run it down have only ever driven past on the M6 and make a judgement based on that.
Spend some time there, great place.
RockyBalboa said:
As are most such areas around the city centre of most such cities but Birmingham has woeful publicc transport and the catchment area seems quite wide so it will inevitably affect a lot of people.
hhmmpphh... I drive in most days to that zone, but (luckily) I don't think i'm affected, despite having a 2002 petrol car which I thought would be (at least, I've checked the London ULEZ site, and I'm not caught by that, so hopefully will be exempt from Bham's as well). bungle said:
hhmmpphh... I drive in most days to that zone, but (luckily) I don't think i'm affected, despite having a 2002 petrol car which I thought would be (at least, I've checked the London ULEZ site, and I'm not caught by that, so hopefully will be exempt from Bham's as well).
Original posting mentioned petrol cars lower then euro 4, so pre 2006, I'd check again on yours, rigga said:
Original posting mentioned petrol cars lower then euro 4, so pre 2006, I'd check again on yours,
No, it's fine:TFL website said:
You are not subject to the ULEZ.
You do not need to take any action.
You do not need to take any action.
TFL website also said:
Enforcement of the ULEZ will be based on the declared emissions of the vehicle rather than the age. Generally speaking, ULEZ-compliant petrol cars are those registered after 2005. However cars that meet the ULEZ standards have been available since 2000.
I have an electric car but driving into town for work is still too expensivd with parking. I park and ride so pay nothing for parking.
Probably gonna cost me a wedge of cash getting my wheels fixed because of the state of broad street and getting forced into pot holes due to the busses.
Probably gonna cost me a wedge of cash getting my wheels fixed because of the state of broad street and getting forced into pot holes due to the busses.
bungle said:
rigga said:
Original posting mentioned petrol cars lower then euro 4, so pre 2006, I'd check again on yours,
No, it's fine:TFL website said:
You are not subject to the ULEZ.
You do not need to take any action.
You do not need to take any action.
TFL website also said:
Enforcement of the ULEZ will be based on the declared emissions of the vehicle rather than the age. Generally speaking, ULEZ-compliant petrol cars are those registered after 2005. However cars that meet the ULEZ standards have been available since 2000.
Wobbegong said:
But Labour told everyone to buy a diesel as they’re better for global climate warming chaos. Now the Labour council have decided to penalise those driving a diesel vehicle.
Unlike local government, most people don’t have access to a magic money tree, and can not afford to keep changing their vehicles.
Look at it this way; if you bought a diesel and did lots of miles you have saved money on the fuel and tax, now you need to move to the next cost efficient model, if you didn't do lots of miles you bought the wrong car. If you have an EU5 diesel it should have at least 80 - 100k miles on it by now as it is going to be four or more years old and over five by the time this would come in. Unlike local government, most people don’t have access to a magic money tree, and can not afford to keep changing their vehicles.
It is much tougher on tradesmen with vans, privately owned campers and people with older low use petrol cars.
Pothole said:
Why would you ask a dim question like that?
I work shifts next door to the Mailbox. I live off Jct11 of the M6. My nearest railway station is 25 minutes walk away from my house and the trains do not run at times which make them a viable form of transport for my commute. Many of my colleagues are in the same boat. As it happens I don't often drive in because I ride a motorcycle. The ULEZ plans appear to have ignored us as councils always do...
Makes sense then. I live near a train line that is direct to new st.I work shifts next door to the Mailbox. I live off Jct11 of the M6. My nearest railway station is 25 minutes walk away from my house and the trains do not run at times which make them a viable form of transport for my commute. Many of my colleagues are in the same boat. As it happens I don't often drive in because I ride a motorcycle. The ULEZ plans appear to have ignored us as councils always do...
I would not drive to that area, I would get the train.
That said if it anything like the london version I might be able to take my oldest vehicle in in the next few years as it'll be over 4o then. Won't help with pollution though as it an old Landie.
kambites said:
Thebaggers said:
Southampton are implementing this. Their key driver of air quality in the city is all the cruise liners running bunker oil to stay powered when in port.
The huge queues of HGVs sitting with their engines running while waiting to pick up the containers offloaded at the docks doesn't help either. I was under the impression that the planed zone in Southampton didn't apply to private cars? I thought it was only lorries, buses and taxis?
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