RE: Lexus RC F 10th anniversary
Discussion
TeaVR said:
Read the post carefully - it wasn't all about journalists.
Of course. It is clear for all to see that when you proclaimed "Well said!" as a response to Olivera's post that you were obviously ignoring the vast bulk of the content which is directly referring to journalistic opinions, the basic premise of the post essentially being to challenge my perception of these (which is fair enough), and was infact merely expressing your agreement towards the very small part that doesn't. Have yourself a beer to celebrate.
Edited by gigglebug on Friday 22 June 09:13
TeaVR said:
It amazes me how many people take the word of the journalists as the bible.
I can speak from experience having owned an IS-F, driven GS-Fs and now own an RC-F CE. Without a shadow of a doubt, the steering in the RC-F is much sharper than that of the IS-F. The vast majority of those people in the know i.e. those that have owned both will agree. The differences between a GS-F and an RC-F - you'd be hard pushed to notice the difference.
We've had both. I'd have another IS-F tomorrow. If I never saw another RC-F again, I'd be okay with that. The IS-F has come the closest of any car we've had to reminding me of my Evo, my benchmark car for ability. In fact, the only reason the IS-F went was because they were too similar to justify keeping both, and ultimately, the Evo will likely stay forever.I can speak from experience having owned an IS-F, driven GS-Fs and now own an RC-F CE. Without a shadow of a doubt, the steering in the RC-F is much sharper than that of the IS-F. The vast majority of those people in the know i.e. those that have owned both will agree. The differences between a GS-F and an RC-F - you'd be hard pushed to notice the difference.
The RC-F did absolutely nothing for me on the same roads. It just didn't work the way the IS-F did.
Heaveho said:
We've had both. I'd have another IS-F tomorrow. If I never saw another RC-F again, I'd be okay with that. The IS-F has come the closest of any car we've had to reminding me of my Evo, my benchmark car for ability. In fact, the only reason the IS-F went was because they were too similar to justify keeping both, and ultimately, the Evo will likely stay forever.
The RC-F did absolutely nothing for me on the same roads. It just didn't work the way the IS-F did.
Never heard of anyone moving from an IS-F to an RC-F and not being pleased, but each to their own.The RC-F did absolutely nothing for me on the same roads. It just didn't work the way the IS-F did.
Interesting that you found the IS-F and Evo similar. I'd think an NA 5 litre and a turbo charged car would be worlds apart. What aspects did you find similar?
TeaVR said:
Never heard of anyone moving from an IS-F to an RC-F and not being pleased, but each to their own.
Interesting that you found the IS-F and Evo similar. I'd think an NA 5 litre and a turbo charged car would be worlds apart. What aspects did you find similar?
Well, I've got some pretty strange opinions about cars, so maybe not that surprising. I hated the GT-R and came away cold from the M5 V10 for instance.Interesting that you found the IS-F and Evo similar. I'd think an NA 5 litre and a turbo charged car would be worlds apart. What aspects did you find similar?
Agree that engine wise there aren't much in the way of similarities with the Evo and the Lexus, it was more the way they both felt on the same roads. The Lexus is bigger, but didn't really feel it on the roads I was familiar with at the time. It also had extremely good grip, I took real liberties with it sometimes and it just dealt with it. As does the Evo.
For me, a car's only fixed point that can't easily be rectified if wrong is the steering, and I find it to be the thing that matters most. On both those cars, the steering was spot on for what I want from a car. The way they both dive into a corner with what feels like barely any input is something I love about both of them. The Lexus is and feels heavier, and as a consequence I found it more difficult to judge on the brakes when piling in, but generally I thought the feel and approach they demanded reminded me of whichever I wasn't driving at the time.
I found the suspension on both too hard and changed it for Bilsteins on the Evo and 16 way adjustable Teins on the Lexus. On the Lexus it addressed the only real issue I ever had with it, and if I buy another, I'll make sure beforehand that it's something that's still available.
I ran the Lexus at Thorney Island raceway, and after experimenting a bit with traction aids and tyre pressures it managed a 13 second dead quarter mile time with a 116 mph terminal iirc. My Evo with 380 brake at Santa Pod ran in the low 12s, but the terminal was a lot lower, the Lexus was way quicker at the top end and into it's stride.
I can't believe how many people chose the 'carbon' edition with the carbon bonnet. To me it looks ridiculous. I'd have to get it sprayed so it was the same colour as the rest of the car 
In all seriousness, it reduces the RCFs I could look to buy by about half judging by the ones currently on AT...
In all seriousness, it reduces the RCFs I could look to buy by about half judging by the ones currently on AT...
OddCat said:
In all seriousness, it reduces the RCFs I could look to buy by about half judging by the ones currently on AT...
It really shouldn't reduce your choice. There are only 24 RC-F Carbon Editions in the UK. The majority of RC-Fs for sale are the base model. Generally there'll only be one or two Carbon Editions for sale at any one point- more often or not the less popular colours such as silver and red. Gray, black and white carbons come up for sale very infrequently.
I have never seen an RC-F Carbon on the road.
TeaVR said:
It really shouldn't reduce your choice. There are only 24 RC-F Carbon Editions in the UK. The majority of RC-Fs for sale are the base model.
Generally there'll only be one or two Carbon Editions for sale at any one point- more often or not the less popular colours such as silver and red. Gray, black and white carbons come up for sale very infrequently.
I have never seen an RC-F Carbon on the road.
Oh. I must have misunderstood what the Carbon Edition is then. So this lot (below) on AT right now aren't part of the 24 ? Maybe the crazy carbon bonnet was simply an option on ordinary ones ticked by people with no taste Generally there'll only be one or two Carbon Editions for sale at any one point- more often or not the less popular colours such as silver and red. Gray, black and white carbons come up for sale very infrequently.
I have never seen an RC-F Carbon on the road.
OddCat said:
Oh. I must have misunderstood what the Carbon Edition is then. So this lot (below) on AT right now aren't part of the 24 ? Maybe the crazy carbon bonnet was simply an option on ordinary ones ticked by people with no taste
My ‘sincere’ apologies.There are three carbons for sale. I was out by one.
One of the cars that you have so kindly shown is not a carbon edition.
Apologies. I really wasn't trying to be sarcastic. You are right, the top one is an ordinary one where someone has had the bonnet wrapped to give the effect of the Carbon model. Ironic (for me) as ths carbon bonnet would mean I couldnt buy a Carbon model. I guest it is a matter of personal taste....
If 1/3rd of the 2014,15,16 models on AT are Carbon Edition, and they only made 24, I wonder how many RC-Fs have actually been sold in the UK ?
If 1/3rd of the 2014,15,16 models on AT are Carbon Edition, and they only made 24, I wonder how many RC-Fs have actually been sold in the UK ?
OddCat said:
Apologies. I really wasn't trying to be sarcastic. You are right, the top one is an ordinary one where someone has had the bonnet wrapped to give the effect of the Carbon model. Ironic (for me) as ths carbon bonnet would mean I couldnt buy a Carbon model. I guest it is a matter of personal taste....
If 1/3rd of the 2014,15,16 models on AT are Carbon Edition, and they only made 24, I wonder how many RC-Fs have actually been sold in the UK ?
Maybe if you think the benefits of the carbon addition are worth the extra premium over the standard car you could still buy one and have the bonnet wrapped in a more suitable colour for the car in question? I'm with you, I don't think having the bonnet in naked carbon suits it at all but I'm also a serial option ticker too so would want the highest spec car I could afford. Carbon roofs I like and the spoiler wouldn't necessarily offend me either but the contrasting front end just seems to highlight the cars slightly bulbous nose to me where the standard cars with body coloured bonnets don't so much. If 1/3rd of the 2014,15,16 models on AT are Carbon Edition, and they only made 24, I wonder how many RC-Fs have actually been sold in the UK ?
Of course if you don't think the benefits of the carbon addition are worth the extra premium over the standard car then it's not going to be a problem.
OddCat said:
If 1/3rd of the 2014,15,16 models on AT are Carbon Edition, and they only made 24, I wonder how many RC-Fs have actually been sold in the UK ?
A chap on the Lexus forum said there was about 200 sold up until the end of last year.I've not seen another one out on the roads.
OddCat said:
Apologies. I really wasn't trying to be sarcastic. You are right, the top one is an ordinary one where someone has had the bonnet wrapped to give the effect of the Carbon model. Ironic (for me) as ths carbon bonnet would mean I couldnt buy a Carbon model. I guest it is a matter of personal taste....
If 1/3rd of the 2014,15,16 models on AT are Carbon Edition, and they only made 24, I wonder how many RC-Fs have actually been sold in the UK ?
To be precise, Lexus sold 217 RC-Fs in the UK. 31 of these vehicles were Carbon Editions. 24 remain according to how many left.If 1/3rd of the 2014,15,16 models on AT are Carbon Edition, and they only made 24, I wonder how many RC-Fs have actually been sold in the UK ?
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