RE: Shed of the Week: Saab 9-3 Turbo

RE: Shed of the Week: Saab 9-3 Turbo

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1974foggy

677 posts

145 months

Friday 22nd June 2018
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Massively appealing, mileage wouldnt put me off one jot at that price!

jagnet

4,115 posts

203 months

Friday 22nd June 2018
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BricktopST205 said:
Also people laugh at the night panel idea but when driving for 18 hours across the continent I found it really handy helping to focus on the road at night.
yes Whilst I've rarely used it in the UK, the night panel feature really does make a difference on long distance night time drives across Europe.

Limpet

6,322 posts

162 months

Friday 22nd June 2018
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Am I the only one who thinks this is strong money for a 17 year old Saab in a not particularly desirable spec, from the "reworked Vauxhall" era with 163,000 miles on the clock. And it's modified with nothing more than a "butt dyno" to quantify it, to boot.

There's a standard one on Autotrader, admittedly an automatic, but a year newer, with a longer MOT, and slightly lower mileage for £495

£1500 would get you into a 2006-ish Aero.

Cool car, but way overpriced, IMHO.

Blackpuddin

16,563 posts

206 months

Friday 22nd June 2018
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It's £1300.

Limpet

6,322 posts

162 months

Friday 22nd June 2018
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Blackpuddin said:
It's £1300.
£1500 is a comparable budget. And within Shed rules.

I'd take a later Aero over this any day of the week.

Example:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

Edited by Limpet on Friday 22 June 11:02


Edited by Limpet on Friday 22 June 11:09

greenarrow

3,600 posts

118 months

Friday 22nd June 2018
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I've always quite fancied a Saab and was sad when they went. Interesting shed this one.
Noting a previous comment about Saab drivers, A lot of them do appear to be on a mission it has to be said, particularly post 2005 diesel Saab drivers. They're not that common these days, but I reckon Saabs are every bit as prone to tailgating as the usual german marques. I think it was Clarkson who said once that he'd never ever been tailgated by a Saab and that's certainly not been my experience!

Wouldn't put me off buying a Saab though, as I like their quirkiness. As a kid, the original 99 Turbo was one of my dream cars, believe it or not. Wonder what they go for these days.

Personally I'd prefer the next gen on 9-3 aero however.

tim-jxv5n

238 posts

97 months

Friday 22nd June 2018
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Nanook said:
xjay1337 said:
Nanook said:
xjay1337 said:
Nice article but the whole Stages in tuning is ridiculous.
Isn't that how you described your old car? laugh
Find one post where I referred to it as a "Stage X".
You were getting a "stage 2 remap" in your very first post on your build thread smile
Haha, and you talked a lot of sh!te over on the Scirocco forum aswell!!

PixelpeepS3

8,600 posts

143 months

Friday 22nd June 2018
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jagnet said:
Turbobanana said:
Escort Si-130 said:
2 out of 10, another boring dull as dishwater mobile, no wonder Saab went out of fashion and lost sales. It could have a million BHP I still do not want it.
Says the man with a Ford Orion and Nissan Cherry in his list of conquests. rolleyes

Saab were never "in fashion": they were bought by people who appreciated the engineering, innovation, safety and didn't follow the herd by buying German. Or Volvos. They lost sales because GM sanitised all of that out of them, in an excellent example of not making what the buyers want.
yes Right on cue; you can guarantee that any time a Saab appears as SOTW then Escort Si-130 will be along to slate both the car and Saab drivers:

Saab 9-5, Jan 17:
Escort Si-130 said:
Boring car, dull as dishwater, I cant stand saab drivers, arrogant and are very inconsiderate. 1 out of 10.
Saab 9-5 Aero, Sep 15
Escort Si-130 said:
Piss poor attempt at shed; this car practically is a shed on wheels!
Cant stand most Saab's, boring as fk, horrible to look at, only decent Saab is the convertible range. This is even worse being an estate hearse mobile. Plus most Saab drivers are selfish tts on the road.
That was until we get back to Nov 2013, Saab 9-5 Aero Estate:
Escort Si-130 said:
Good shed,even if its high mileage. Only downside for me is its in silver.
I can only assume that sometime around 2014 either a Saab Estate overtook him and he's never been able to live it down, or his wife ran off with a Saab owner.
Not enough attention was drawn to this excellent piece of historical quoting by DI Jagnet (PHi)

well done sir! laugh

TheVole

535 posts

154 months

Friday 22nd June 2018
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PixelpeepS3 said:
jagnet said:
Turbobanana said:
Escort Si-130 said:
2 out of 10, another boring dull as dishwater mobile, no wonder Saab went out of fashion and lost sales. It could have a million BHP I still do not want it.
Says the man with a Ford Orion and Nissan Cherry in his list of conquests. rolleyes

Saab were never "in fashion": they were bought by people who appreciated the engineering, innovation, safety and didn't follow the herd by buying German. Or Volvos. They lost sales because GM sanitised all of that out of them, in an excellent example of not making what the buyers want.
yes Right on cue; you can guarantee that any time a Saab appears as SOTW then Escort Si-130 will be along to slate both the car and Saab drivers:

Saab 9-5, Jan 17:
Escort Si-130 said:
Boring car, dull as dishwater, I cant stand saab drivers, arrogant and are very inconsiderate. 1 out of 10.
Saab 9-5 Aero, Sep 15
Escort Si-130 said:
Piss poor attempt at shed; this car practically is a shed on wheels!
Cant stand most Saab's, boring as fk, horrible to look at, only decent Saab is the convertible range. This is even worse being an estate hearse mobile. Plus most Saab drivers are selfish tts on the road.
That was until we get back to Nov 2013, Saab 9-5 Aero Estate:
Escort Si-130 said:
Good shed,even if its high mileage. Only downside for me is its in silver.
I can only assume that sometime around 2014 either a Saab Estate overtook him and he's never been able to live it down, or his wife ran off with a Saab owner.
Not enough attention was drawn to this excellent piece of historical quoting by DI Jagnet (PHi)

well done sir! laugh
Top detective work!

I wonder if he just has a thing against Swedish cars... So here's my Volvo laugh



Joking aside, this is a top shed. I'd like to try a fast Saab one day, nothing quite like the old-school feeling nothing-nothing-nothing-boooooost!


Edited by TheVole on Friday 22 June 11:42

B10

1,240 posts

268 months

Friday 22nd June 2018
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Had a GM 900 a few years ago great car except the GM sourced bulkhead mounted steering rack. Meant changing a rack gaiter a very expensive experience on a £600 car sold it the nice chap at Saab Flight in Sussex. They do lots clever stuff with Saabs.

J4CKO

41,634 posts

201 months

Friday 22nd June 2018
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TheVole said:
PixelpeepS3 said:
jagnet said:
Turbobanana said:
Escort Si-130 said:
2 out of 10, another boring dull as dishwater mobile, no wonder Saab went out of fashion and lost sales. It could have a million BHP I still do not want it.
Says the man with a Ford Orion and Nissan Cherry in his list of conquests. rolleyes

Saab were never "in fashion": they were bought by people who appreciated the engineering, innovation, safety and didn't follow the herd by buying German. Or Volvos. They lost sales because GM sanitised all of that out of them, in an excellent example of not making what the buyers want.
yes Right on cue; you can guarantee that any time a Saab appears as SOTW then Escort Si-130 will be along to slate both the car and Saab drivers:

Saab 9-5, Jan 17:
Escort Si-130 said:
Boring car, dull as dishwater, I cant stand saab drivers, arrogant and are very inconsiderate. 1 out of 10.
Saab 9-5 Aero, Sep 15
Escort Si-130 said:
Piss poor attempt at shed; this car practically is a shed on wheels!
Cant stand most Saab's, boring as fk, horrible to look at, only decent Saab is the convertible range. This is even worse being an estate hearse mobile. Plus most Saab drivers are selfish tts on the road.
That was until we get back to Nov 2013, Saab 9-5 Aero Estate:
Escort Si-130 said:
Good shed,even if its high mileage. Only downside for me is its in silver.
I can only assume that sometime around 2014 either a Saab Estate overtook him and he's never been able to live it down, or his wife ran off with a Saab owner.
Not enough attention was drawn to this excellent piece of historical quoting by DI Jagnet (PHi)

well done sir! laugh
Top detective work!

I wonder if he just has a thing against Swedish cars... So here's my Volvo laugh



Joking aside, this is a top shed. I'd like to try a fast Saab one day, nothing quite like the old-school feeling nothing-nothing-nothing-boooooost!


Edited by TheVole on Friday 22 June 11:42
They generally arent like that, Saab were masters of turbocharging, at least the LPT models werent, they just generally felt more like 2.5 V6 level power, early ones were probably more off/on and perhaps the higher power ones but the LPTs and non Aero HPTs were really quite civilised.

The chassis was a bit wayward, the 9-3 liek this was much better than the 900 it was based on, hilarious wheelspin in the wet, could leave a roundabout and keep the unloaded front spinning almost indefinitely, it wasnt unpleasant to drive, just wasnt one for being hustled, later model was better and pretty capable but not much fun while it was about it.

Quhet

2,428 posts

147 months

Friday 22nd June 2018
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Really underrated cars these old 93's, handsome, roomy and understated. Those alloys are to me, one of the best wheel designs of recent years. I really enjoyed mine even if it was a relatively lowly diesel.

I'd have another in a heartbeat but it's getting increasingly hard to find a decent one about as they're now knocking on a bit.

georgezippy

417 posts

196 months

Friday 22nd June 2018
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Here's mine, it's always pleasing when shed endorses my purchase, I feel it validates me as a pistonheader yes

Bought a couple of years ago for £1000, since then pretty much nothing has gone wrong. The clutch started slipping but that was just after my stage 1 remap, (so my fault really hehe ) anyway had that changed, but apart from that it's been basic servicing and a few minor bits and pieces to keep it going.
It has bubbly rear arches, handling's not great, quite a harsh ride as well, but 250bhp is hilarious, engine is smooth and quiet at 150k, everything works, boot is massive, quite tolerable fuel economy given the way it goes, the leather seats are as comfy as my last shed (XJ8, - also a frequently appearing shed). I shall keep it until it breaks, and probably keep buying Saabs until you can't get them anymore.

xjay1337

15,966 posts

119 months

Friday 22nd June 2018
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tim-jxv5n said:
Haha, and you talked a lot of sh!te over on the Scirocco forum aswell!!
I make a living out of doing that pal.

J4CKO

41,634 posts

201 months

Friday 22nd June 2018
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xjay1337 said:
tim-jxv5n said:
Haha, and you talked a lot of sh!te over on the Scirocco forum aswell!!
I make a living out of doing that pal.
Show me how, I could make a fortune !

PoopahScoopah

249 posts

126 months

Friday 22nd June 2018
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Escort Si-130 said:
2 out of 10, another boring dull as dishwater mobile, no wonder Saab went out of fashion and lost sales. It could have a million BHP I still do not want it.
And that statement pretty much sums up every post I've ever seen you make on SOTW. 2 out of 10 for your input would be a tad generous though!

xjay1337

15,966 posts

119 months

Friday 22nd June 2018
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J4CKO said:
xjay1337 said:
tim-jxv5n said:
Haha, and you talked a lot of sh!te over on the Scirocco forum aswell!!
I make a living out of doing that pal.
Show me how, I could make a fortune !
Get a job in sales lol

stewjohnst

2,442 posts

162 months

Friday 22nd June 2018
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Does seem a little bit strong for that amount of miles and a non-Aero (albeit breathed on).

I paid £800 for a 2002 9-3 Aero Coupe with FSH and 170,000 miles on it.

Torque steered it around for seven months until it failed it's MOT and then got rid of it, was great fun while it lasted but needed a few too many bits doing.

Oil leaking out of it whilst it was up on the ramps being shown which bits of suspension, etc. it failed on kind of mailed the coffin shut for me.

PoopahScoopah

249 posts

126 months

Friday 22nd June 2018
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TheVole said:
PixelpeepS3 said:
jagnet said:
Turbobanana said:
Escort Si-130 said:
2 out of 10, another boring dull as dishwater mobile, no wonder Saab went out of fashion and lost sales. It could have a million BHP I still do not want it.
Says the man with a Ford Orion and Nissan Cherry in his list of conquests. rolleyes

Saab were never "in fashion": they were bought by people who appreciated the engineering, innovation, safety and didn't follow the herd by buying German. Or Volvos. They lost sales because GM sanitised all of that out of them, in an excellent example of not making what the buyers want.
yes Right on cue; you can guarantee that any time a Saab appears as SOTW then Escort Si-130 will be along to slate both the car and Saab drivers:

Saab 9-5, Jan 17:
Escort Si-130 said:
Boring car, dull as dishwater, I cant stand saab drivers, arrogant and are very inconsiderate. 1 out of 10.
Saab 9-5 Aero, Sep 15
Escort Si-130 said:
Piss poor attempt at shed; this car practically is a shed on wheels!
Cant stand most Saab's, boring as fk, horrible to look at, only decent Saab is the convertible range. This is even worse being an estate hearse mobile. Plus most Saab drivers are selfish tts on the road.
That was until we get back to Nov 2013, Saab 9-5 Aero Estate:
Escort Si-130 said:
Good shed,even if its high mileage. Only downside for me is its in silver.
I can only assume that sometime around 2014 either a Saab Estate overtook him and he's never been able to live it down, or his wife ran off with a Saab owner.
Not enough attention was drawn to this excellent piece of historical quoting by DI Jagnet (PHi)

well done sir! laugh
Top detective work!

I wonder if he just has a thing against Swedish cars...
No, he just has a thing against quite a range of cars, unless they are of the Escort ilk. I don't think I've ever seen a positive comment from him on here. Used to post regularly on SOTW and it was always the same negative pointless BS. Absolutely no idea why the fella frequents PH when he has such a narrow minded "interest" in cars.

Paddy78

208 posts

147 months

Friday 22nd June 2018
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Excellent shed and a very amusing few pages on the forum too. laugh