RE: Abt creates 186mph RS3

RE: Abt creates 186mph RS3

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tril

367 posts

75 months

Friday 22nd June 2018
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Looks lovely bar the tacked on vents and quad exhausts, RS cars should always have the dual ovals.

I'm sure ABT do great work but it isn't half expensive. Their remap is over double what other very reputable tuners charge and with all of the other bits, I reckon you'd be looking at £10k+ for this package on top of an already pretty expensive car. It's not worth it. Take the car to MRC, Revo or APR for a remap and rear sway bar, that's all you need. £1500 at most, job done.

Baldchap

7,685 posts

93 months

Saturday 23rd June 2018
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When you consider a 7 speed Golf R top speed is 168, the top speed on this sounds a bit understated.

Escort Si-130

3,273 posts

181 months

Sunday 24th June 2018
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You on crack??? Hardly a Q car. Even still the RS3 stands out completely different from your regular 2.0 TDi

wab172uk said:
Tycho said:
"though for full Q-car kudos it would surely have to be left standard."

Really? A standard RS3 is a Q car???
It hardly shouts out it's an RS3 does it. See one without hearing it first, and it's just an S3. But then the S3 hardly shouts either. So from a distance the RS3 is just a 2.0 TDI to most people.

Could have been soo much more.

Isn't ABT upgrades in Germany fully warrantied by Audi. Same as some other countries? Here in Britain, it's a warranty void job.

Escort Si-130

3,273 posts

181 months

Sunday 24th June 2018
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Hairymonster said:
Leon R said:
I don't think I have ever even heard of a stock car running out of revs limiting the top speed, i'm pretty sure the RS3 speedo goes to 200 mph.
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Escort Si-130

3,273 posts

181 months

Sunday 24th June 2018
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rtz62 said:
Leon R said:
PHMatt said:
Is this 186mph a theoretical top speed or is the car actually geared to get that far?

It could have 10,000 bhp but if it's geared to a max of 155mph at a rev point where the engine doesn't consume itself, that's how fast it will go.
I don't think I have ever even heard of a stock car running out of revs limiting the top speed, i'm pretty sure the RS3 speedo goes to 200 mph.
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st4

1,359 posts

134 months

Sunday 24th June 2018
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wab172uk said:
It hardly shouts out it's an RS3 does it. See one without hearing it first, and it's just an S3. But then the S3 hardly shouts either. So from a distance the RS3 is just a 2.0 TDI to most people.

Could have been soo much more.

Isn't ABT upgrades in Germany fully warrantied by Audi. Same as some other countries? Here in Britain, it's a warranty void job.
I think that is rather the point

Stu08

703 posts

118 months

Sunday 24th June 2018
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Are we honestly on a car enthusiast forum discussing how the top speed is too fast and it has too much power?

With those suggestions, any car capable of more than 70 MPH is pointless.

PSRG

662 posts

127 months

Sunday 24th June 2018
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I thought for £1,600 Audi would lift the speed limiter from the factory to 176mph, leaving you fully covered by their warranty?

Bladedancer

1,279 posts

197 months

Tuesday 26th June 2018
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130R said:
ore like 30K Euro with all the mods on that car.
If its 30 it's a huge ripoff.

Price list isn't that difficult to work out tbh.
Remap - I'll be generous - 1k.
DGS remap 500 quid? Ok, up to 1k to be on the safe side.
Exhaust - unless they're using Akrapovic (which I doubt they are) it'll be, say, 2k for a complete system.
Intercooler 900 quid. This is roughly what IC for TT RS costs at Forge.
Suspension they've mentioned is round 1700 (first google hit shows 1725)
Brakes - without knowing what they are it's difficult to ascertain the price as those vary wildly but let's be very generous here - 4k.
Each of the bodywork elements is couple hundred quid, unless it's made from carbon fiber they obviously it'll be helluva lot more.

Add fitting at whatever labor rates you can find.

There is obviously the warranty issue, which ABT will give you.

Also, all of that for effectively 25% gain (400 -> 500 hp).

Ps. You don't need ABT. You have MRC (and REVO) in the UK and I'm sure they can tinker RS3 to the same level no problem.

tril

367 posts

75 months

Tuesday 26th June 2018
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Bladedancer said:
If its 30 it's a huge ripoff.

Price list isn't that difficult to work out tbh.
Remap - I'll be generous - 1k.
DGS remap 500 quid? Ok, up to 1k to be on the safe side.
Exhaust - unless they're using Akrapovic (which I doubt they are) it'll be, say, 2k for a complete system.
Intercooler 900 quid. This is roughly what IC for TT RS costs at Forge.
Suspension they've mentioned is round 1700 (first google hit shows 1725)
Brakes - without knowing what they are it's difficult to ascertain the price as those vary wildly but let's be very generous here - 4k.
Each of the bodywork elements is couple hundred quid, unless it's made from carbon fiber they obviously it'll be helluva lot more.

Add fitting at whatever labor rates you can find.

There is obviously the warranty issue, which ABT will give you.

Also, all of that for effectively 25% gain (400 -> 500 hp).

Ps. You don't need ABT. You have MRC (and REVO) in the UK and I'm sure they can tinker RS3 to the same level no problem.
They don't do it any more, but they used to put their prices in the configurator. The remap on the 8V00 was something like 4k, intercooler 2k, exhaust 4k, transmission remap 3k, suspension 4k and brakes 2k. Something along those lines anyway. The ABT wheels were about 1k each too. I'm not sure if the entire package would be as much as 30k but it wouldn't be a million miles away.

As you say, you don't need them especially in the UK where their work is not warranty protected. Go to MRC or Revo and you've got a ECU and TCU map for £1k. Add a rear sway bar for something like £250 fitted and you're cooking, anything else is superfluous.

Bladedancer

1,279 posts

197 months

Tuesday 26th June 2018
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tril said:
They don't do it any more, but they used to put their prices in the configurator. The remap on the 8V00 was something like 4k, intercooler 2k, exhaust 4k, transmission remap 3k, suspension 4k and brakes 2k. Something along those lines anyway. The ABT wheels were about 1k each too. I'm not sure if the entire package would be as much as 30k but it wouldn't be a million miles away.

As you say, you don't need them especially in the UK where their work is not warranty protected. Go to MRC or Revo and you've got a ECU and TCU map for £1k. Add a rear sway bar for something like £250 fitted and you're cooking, anything else is superfluous.
ABT's prices (MTM's quite often too) were always ridiculous, quite possibly because they can say 'you keep your warranty with us sir'.

tril

367 posts

75 months

Tuesday 26th June 2018
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Bladedancer said:
tril said:
They don't do it any more, but they used to put their prices in the configurator. The remap on the 8V00 was something like 4k, intercooler 2k, exhaust 4k, transmission remap 3k, suspension 4k and brakes 2k. Something along those lines anyway. The ABT wheels were about 1k each too. I'm not sure if the entire package would be as much as 30k but it wouldn't be a million miles away.

As you say, you don't need them especially in the UK where their work is not warranty protected. Go to MRC or Revo and you've got a ECU and TCU map for £1k. Add a rear sway bar for something like £250 fitted and you're cooking, anything else is superfluous.
ABT's prices (MTM's quite often too) were always ridiculous, quite possibly because they can say 'you keep your warranty with us sir'.
Absolutely. I understand why Germans go for them as they're also TUV approved. But their warranties aren't valid here so no idea why anyone would buy their seriously overpriced stuff.

alorotom

11,952 posts

188 months

Tuesday 26th June 2018
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tril said:
Absolutely. I understand why Germans go for them as they're also TUV approved. But their warranties aren't valid here so no idea why anyone would buy their seriously overpriced stuff.
Rarity and kudos ... mk1 ABT TT as an example only a handful sold in the U.K. and still trading at very strong money (comparatively) even with high miles on them