RE: Abt creates 186mph RS3
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Looks lovely bar the tacked on vents and quad exhausts, RS cars should always have the dual ovals.
I'm sure ABT do great work but it isn't half expensive. Their remap is over double what other very reputable tuners charge and with all of the other bits, I reckon you'd be looking at £10k+ for this package on top of an already pretty expensive car. It's not worth it. Take the car to MRC, Revo or APR for a remap and rear sway bar, that's all you need. £1500 at most, job done.
I'm sure ABT do great work but it isn't half expensive. Their remap is over double what other very reputable tuners charge and with all of the other bits, I reckon you'd be looking at £10k+ for this package on top of an already pretty expensive car. It's not worth it. Take the car to MRC, Revo or APR for a remap and rear sway bar, that's all you need. £1500 at most, job done.
You on crack??? Hardly a Q car. Even still the RS3 stands out completely different from your regular 2.0 TDi
Could have been soo much more.
Isn't ABT upgrades in Germany fully warrantied by Audi. Same as some other countries? Here in Britain, it's a warranty void job.
wab172uk said:
Tycho said:
"though for full Q-car kudos it would surely have to be left standard."
Really? A standard RS3 is a Q car???
It hardly shouts out it's an RS3 does it. See one without hearing it first, and it's just an S3. But then the S3 hardly shouts either. So from a distance the RS3 is just a 2.0 TDI to most people.Really? A standard RS3 is a Q car???
Could have been soo much more.
Isn't ABT upgrades in Germany fully warrantied by Audi. Same as some other countries? Here in Britain, it's a warranty void job.
rtz62 said:
Leon R said:
PHMatt said:
Is this 186mph a theoretical top speed or is the car actually geared to get that far?
It could have 10,000 bhp but if it's geared to a max of 155mph at a rev point where the engine doesn't consume itself, that's how fast it will go.
I don't think I have ever even heard of a stock car running out of revs limiting the top speed, i'm pretty sure the RS3 speedo goes to 200 mph.It could have 10,000 bhp but if it's geared to a max of 155mph at a rev point where the engine doesn't consume itself, that's how fast it will go.
wab172uk said:
It hardly shouts out it's an RS3 does it. See one without hearing it first, and it's just an S3. But then the S3 hardly shouts either. So from a distance the RS3 is just a 2.0 TDI to most people.
Could have been soo much more.
Isn't ABT upgrades in Germany fully warrantied by Audi. Same as some other countries? Here in Britain, it's a warranty void job.
I think that is rather the pointCould have been soo much more.
Isn't ABT upgrades in Germany fully warrantied by Audi. Same as some other countries? Here in Britain, it's a warranty void job.
130R said:
ore like 30K Euro with all the mods on that car.
If its 30 it's a huge ripoff.Price list isn't that difficult to work out tbh.
Remap - I'll be generous - 1k.
DGS remap 500 quid? Ok, up to 1k to be on the safe side.
Exhaust - unless they're using Akrapovic (which I doubt they are) it'll be, say, 2k for a complete system.
Intercooler 900 quid. This is roughly what IC for TT RS costs at Forge.
Suspension they've mentioned is round 1700 (first google hit shows 1725)
Brakes - without knowing what they are it's difficult to ascertain the price as those vary wildly but let's be very generous here - 4k.
Each of the bodywork elements is couple hundred quid, unless it's made from carbon fiber they obviously it'll be helluva lot more.
Add fitting at whatever labor rates you can find.
There is obviously the warranty issue, which ABT will give you.
Also, all of that for effectively 25% gain (400 -> 500 hp).
Ps. You don't need ABT. You have MRC (and REVO) in the UK and I'm sure they can tinker RS3 to the same level no problem.
Bladedancer said:
If its 30 it's a huge ripoff.
Price list isn't that difficult to work out tbh.
Remap - I'll be generous - 1k.
DGS remap 500 quid? Ok, up to 1k to be on the safe side.
Exhaust - unless they're using Akrapovic (which I doubt they are) it'll be, say, 2k for a complete system.
Intercooler 900 quid. This is roughly what IC for TT RS costs at Forge.
Suspension they've mentioned is round 1700 (first google hit shows 1725)
Brakes - without knowing what they are it's difficult to ascertain the price as those vary wildly but let's be very generous here - 4k.
Each of the bodywork elements is couple hundred quid, unless it's made from carbon fiber they obviously it'll be helluva lot more.
Add fitting at whatever labor rates you can find.
There is obviously the warranty issue, which ABT will give you.
Also, all of that for effectively 25% gain (400 -> 500 hp).
Ps. You don't need ABT. You have MRC (and REVO) in the UK and I'm sure they can tinker RS3 to the same level no problem.
They don't do it any more, but they used to put their prices in the configurator. The remap on the 8V00 was something like 4k, intercooler 2k, exhaust 4k, transmission remap 3k, suspension 4k and brakes 2k. Something along those lines anyway. The ABT wheels were about 1k each too. I'm not sure if the entire package would be as much as 30k but it wouldn't be a million miles away. Price list isn't that difficult to work out tbh.
Remap - I'll be generous - 1k.
DGS remap 500 quid? Ok, up to 1k to be on the safe side.
Exhaust - unless they're using Akrapovic (which I doubt they are) it'll be, say, 2k for a complete system.
Intercooler 900 quid. This is roughly what IC for TT RS costs at Forge.
Suspension they've mentioned is round 1700 (first google hit shows 1725)
Brakes - without knowing what they are it's difficult to ascertain the price as those vary wildly but let's be very generous here - 4k.
Each of the bodywork elements is couple hundred quid, unless it's made from carbon fiber they obviously it'll be helluva lot more.
Add fitting at whatever labor rates you can find.
There is obviously the warranty issue, which ABT will give you.
Also, all of that for effectively 25% gain (400 -> 500 hp).
Ps. You don't need ABT. You have MRC (and REVO) in the UK and I'm sure they can tinker RS3 to the same level no problem.
As you say, you don't need them especially in the UK where their work is not warranty protected. Go to MRC or Revo and you've got a ECU and TCU map for £1k. Add a rear sway bar for something like £250 fitted and you're cooking, anything else is superfluous.
tril said:
They don't do it any more, but they used to put their prices in the configurator. The remap on the 8V00 was something like 4k, intercooler 2k, exhaust 4k, transmission remap 3k, suspension 4k and brakes 2k. Something along those lines anyway. The ABT wheels were about 1k each too. I'm not sure if the entire package would be as much as 30k but it wouldn't be a million miles away.
As you say, you don't need them especially in the UK where their work is not warranty protected. Go to MRC or Revo and you've got a ECU and TCU map for £1k. Add a rear sway bar for something like £250 fitted and you're cooking, anything else is superfluous.
ABT's prices (MTM's quite often too) were always ridiculous, quite possibly because they can say 'you keep your warranty with us sir'.As you say, you don't need them especially in the UK where their work is not warranty protected. Go to MRC or Revo and you've got a ECU and TCU map for £1k. Add a rear sway bar for something like £250 fitted and you're cooking, anything else is superfluous.
Bladedancer said:
tril said:
They don't do it any more, but they used to put their prices in the configurator. The remap on the 8V00 was something like 4k, intercooler 2k, exhaust 4k, transmission remap 3k, suspension 4k and brakes 2k. Something along those lines anyway. The ABT wheels were about 1k each too. I'm not sure if the entire package would be as much as 30k but it wouldn't be a million miles away.
As you say, you don't need them especially in the UK where their work is not warranty protected. Go to MRC or Revo and you've got a ECU and TCU map for £1k. Add a rear sway bar for something like £250 fitted and you're cooking, anything else is superfluous.
ABT's prices (MTM's quite often too) were always ridiculous, quite possibly because they can say 'you keep your warranty with us sir'.As you say, you don't need them especially in the UK where their work is not warranty protected. Go to MRC or Revo and you've got a ECU and TCU map for £1k. Add a rear sway bar for something like £250 fitted and you're cooking, anything else is superfluous.
tril said:
Absolutely. I understand why Germans go for them as they're also TUV approved. But their warranties aren't valid here so no idea why anyone would buy their seriously overpriced stuff.
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