Best smoker barges 1-5 large [Vol 13]

[Blown2CV]

S-Type R is considerably more st than the XJR due to the considerable extra weight. It is cheaper though, or was last time i looked.

[Jim the Sunderer]

I saw a burgundy XJ8 cruising southbound from Newcastle on Friday with an old timey luggage rack (empty) on the boot.

It wasn't a good look, I hope it wasn't any of you bargy boys.

The boot on those is massive, as shown in the movie Snatch when the large black fellow is shoved in one, I don't see the need for external luggage.

[JF87]

Big LPG tank in the boot?

[pitchfork]

Big fellow in the boot (black or otherwise)?

[louiebaby]

SimonConnell said:

Upthread we were discussing the ruinous potential of the Volvo 3.2 unit. Surely this wood-rimmed steering wheel acts as a talisman against such outcomes?

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

I mean I like Volvos, but that is for hauling kids and dogs. Who wants a light coloured interior for that?

[Croutons]

Have we had this 190?

https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1031209

Front wing painted or just the light do think?

[phil_cardiff]

Blown2CV said:

S-Type R is considerably more st than the XJR due to the considerable extra weight. It is cheaper though, or was last time i looked.

With respect I think that's internet folklaw as the STR went head to head with the e39 M5 and emerged relatively unscathed back in the day.

I haven't driven any of them though so what do I know?

[bmthnick1981]

I seem to remember the STR being rated above the e39 m5 in one of the contemporary road tests. The STR has certainly gone one way value wise and the E39 M5 the other. I recently sold my E39 M5 and was idly thinking about what to get next when I spotted a tatty STR at my local (Poole) auction - it was a runner with MOT and made around £2k. Try buying an e39 M5 for that.

Much experience of the W221 S Class on the thread? Ideally I would like an S65 AMG but a 5.5 NA V8 will do for now.

[Krikkit]

bmthnick1981 said:

Much experience of the W221 S Class on the thread? Ideally I would like an S65 AMG but a 5.5 NA V8 will do for now.

I believe a couple of threadists have them, although not a V12.

[E65Ross]

Croutons said:

Have we had this 190?

https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1031209

Front wing painted or just the light do think?

Certainly looks like it to me (painted).

[Lowtimer]

bmthnick1981 said:

I seem to remember the STR being rated above the e39 m5 in one of the contemporary road tests. The STR has certainly gone one way value wise and the E39 M5 the other. I recently sold my E39 M5 and was idly thinking about what to get next when I spotted a tatty STR at my local (Poole) auction - it was a runner with MOT and made around £2k. Try buying an e39 M5 for that.

The looks of the S-Type are a personal thing, but that's okay cause they're, er, a personal thing. My take is that it probably looks better now than it did when it was new. It doesn't seem so self-consicouly twee at 15 years' remove.

Leaving tlooks out of it, for me, back when they were new it was a pretty simple choice. if you wanted manual, you wanted an M5, because they were all manual. If you wanted a slusher, you bought a Jag or an AMG Merc, because they were all auto, and of the latter two I'd have had the Jag in those years.

Nowadays the dynamics of the choice are very different due to the price differential. You can find a good tidy solid example of the Jag for Thread budget, and an E39 M5 in similarly good order will be at least three times as much. So they no longer compete in the same market.

[Krikkit]

Lowtimer said:

Nowadays the dynamics of the choice are very different due to the price differential. You can find a good tidy solid example of the Jag for Thread budget, and an E39 M5 in similarly good order will be at least three times as much. So they no longer compete in the same market.

And similarly, the Merc is somewhere inbetween.

That said, I'd rather have an XJR instead. I know that's a bit backwards, but the big Jag would be my choice, even if going a generation behind (e.g. X308 instead).

[Blown2CV]

trooperiziz said:

BrabusMog said:

trooperiziz said:

BrabusMog said:

The S Type's engineering goes as far as having a hook on the passenger side dashboard to hang a Chinese takeaway bag from. It's an insult to compare an S Type to an E39, M5 or other model.

An s type has useable cup holders though, so swings and roundabouts

Spilt coffees and intact takeaways

My M5 cupholders actually tried to kill me...

Maccy d's coke in the cupholder and pulling out of a side road it tipped over and covered the driver's side floor, all over the mats and under the seat. Annoying but cleaned it up best I could and thought no more about it.
Next day, in the outside lane of a dual carriageway, proceeding at a reasonable speed, the seat electrics shorted out and I started slowly, inexorably, moving forward... And forward... And forward... no amount of button pressing or pushing back could stop it! I thought it was never going to stop and this would be quite the story for the accident investigator to work out and put on my obituary. Turns out it stops just before the point of certain death, but It's quite tricky to drive a car at 70mph with your knees round your ears and your balls on the wheel

Edited by trooperiziz on Sunday 18th November 23:21

consider answering "no" to "do you want to go large" next time

[Blown2CV]

phil_cardiff said:

Blown2CV said:

S-Type R is considerably more st than the XJR due to the considerable extra weight. It is cheaper though, or was last time i looked.

With respect I think that's internet folklaw as the STR went head to head with the e39 M5 and emerged relatively unscathed back in the day.

I haven't driven any of them though so what do I know?

S-type R on paper is a lot slower than the XJR. That was my only point, not how well it performs against a contemporary M5.

and erm... it's folklore

[BigBen]

bmthnick1981 said:

I seem to remember the STR being rated above the e39 m5 in one of the contemporary road tests. The STR has certainly gone one way value wise and the E39 M5 the other. I recently sold my E39 M5 and was idly thinking about what to get next when I spotted a tatty STR at my local (Poole) auction - it was a runner with MOT and made around £2k. Try buying an e39 M5 for that.

Much experience of the W221 S Class on the thread? Ideally I would like an S65 AMG but a 5.5 NA V8 will do for now.

I keep seeing the S65 and the 600s at ever lower prices, worth getting one of that pair if you can. (by ever lower still not close to thread budget but £5k less than a year ago)

[Rubins4]

Could someone please confirm this all-important “thread budget” to this ill-informed but enthusiastic new threadist?

[tobinen]

£1-5 laaarge saan




one thousand to five thousand pounds sterling with a few exceptions of interest to threadists

[Jim the Sunderer]

or about £5000 a year to keep a Range Rover going.

[Rubins4]

tobinen said:

£1-5 laaarge saaan

[trooperiziz]

Otherwise known as, too cheap not to buy and too expensive not to fix...