Best smoker barges 1-5 large [Vol 13]

Best smoker barges 1-5 large [Vol 13]

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SpeckledJim

17,843 posts

192 months

Friday 7th December 2018
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Pleased with the Pirelli P6 on my XJS. Not expensive and available in little sizes.

Also like the Dunlop Sport Bluresponse at good prices.

Rubins4

175 posts

64 months

Friday 7th December 2018
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SpeckledJim said:
Pleased with the Pirelli P6 on my XJS. Not expensive and available in little sizes.

Also like the Dunlop Sport Bluresponse at good prices.
P6 - Nothing to do with the P6000? I had a set on my last barge (Volvo V70 Classic estate) which were very poor in the wet, although in fairness they were perhaps a bit old and worn.



Bonefish Blues said:
Uniroyals or Contis - it's a cheap size, so the difference between best and worst is less than most other sizes.
Any more detail as to which Uniroyals or Contis? I just know that I'll go to look at some reviews and still be in the same position I am now without a bit more guidance.

Thank you chaps.

dme123

4,529 posts

128 months

Friday 7th December 2018
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If you can get them in your size the Pirelli P7 Cinturato Blue is quiet, grips well for a touring tyre, and for me last literally twice as long as any other premium tyre.

SpeckledJim

17,843 posts

192 months

Friday 7th December 2018
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dme123 said:
If you can get them in your size the Pirelli P7 Cinturato Blue is quiet, grips well for a touring tyre, and for me last literally twice as long as any other premium tyre.
Sorry, P7 Cinturato is the one I meant when I said P6. I'm a dolt.

SpeckledJim

17,843 posts

192 months

Friday 7th December 2018
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Rubins4 said:
SpeckledJim said:
Pleased with the Pirelli P6 on my XJS. Not expensive and available in little sizes.

Also like the Dunlop Sport Bluresponse at good prices.
P6 - Nothing to do with the P6000? I had a set on my last barge (Volvo V70 Classic estate) which were very poor in the wet, although in fairness they were perhaps a bit old and worn.



Bonefish Blues said:
Uniroyals or Contis - it's a cheap size, so the difference between best and worst is less than most other sizes.
Any more detail as to which Uniroyals or Contis? I just know that I'll go to look at some reviews and still be in the same position I am now without a bit more guidance.

Thank you chaps.
Sorry, I meant P7. Does anyone else's Early-Onset Dementia get worse on Friday afternoons?

P6 did replace the venerable P6000 as I understand it.

What I don't understand is why P6000 was fitted to sooooo many good cars as standard when seemingly everyone hates it.



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ST565NP

251 posts

21 months

Friday 7th December 2018
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Rubins4 said:
Any more detail as to which Uniroyals or Contis? I just know that I'll go to look at some reviews and still be in the same position I am now without a bit more guidance.

Thank you chaps.
Uniroyal Rainexpert 3, better than similar Conti, and cheaper. Found out the hard way on my Focus Mk1

cornershop

1,123 posts

135 months

Friday 7th December 2018
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Dunlop bluresponse on the Lex - possibly the best tyre I’ve fitted in terms of durability, quietness and wet performance.

Have p6000 on the (hopefully) incoming car - I’ve not read much good about them.

ETA - My bad, it has PZeros

cornershop

1,123 posts

135 months

Friday 7th December 2018
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ST565NP said:
Uniroyal Rainexpert 3, better than similar Conti, and cheaper. Found out the hard way on my Focus Mk1
Better in what way?

dme123

4,529 posts

128 months

Friday 7th December 2018
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I had P6000s on the front of a V70 T5 and they were really very good but had them on the rear of an MX5 and they were absolutely lethal, sliding out dramatically at walking pace on roundabouts in the rain.

Pirelli are terrible with model names, there is a P7 Cinturato and the P7 Cinturato Blue. They are both good but the Blue is the one I've found to be everlasting. I think there are half a dozen variants of P Zero too.

ST565NP

251 posts

21 months

Friday 7th December 2018
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cornershop said:
Better in what way?
Better in driving and braking when wet but also in dry. I compared it with Conti Ecocontrol 2. Will wear sooner but is aprox. 25% cheaper.

TobyLerone

959 posts

83 months

Friday 7th December 2018
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ST565NP said:
Better in driving and braking when wet but also in dry. I compared it with Conti Ecocontrol 2. Will wear sooner but is aprox. 25% cheaper.
I've just put 5 brand new Uniroyal Rainexpert tyres on my LS400.

Quiet on the motorway (even concrete slab sections) smooth riding, and good in the cold wet weather. A significant improvement from the 10 year old mismatched and perished tyres which were fitted previously...

I think it's one of the most appropriate Bargista-spec tyres for recommending in our quiet and well natured corner of PH.

austinsmirk

3,310 posts

62 months

Friday 7th December 2018
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uniroyal rainsport 3's. its all I fit now. honestly good value and great in wet and have kept me going in the snow even.

prob get them, about £78 a corner- and then £10 a corner for fitting. I usually buy through tyreleader- although local tyre place has price matched when I've shown them t'internet prices.

BorniteIdentity

958 posts

69 months

Friday 7th December 2018
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I’m not sure why you wouldn’t fit CrossClimate’s tbh. They are a truly remarkable tyre; genuinely revolutionary. Yes, the car didn’t have this type of rubber when new - but tyres have come a long way in 30 years and the humble w201 has not.

Fit the best, and I’d argue that - short of summer and winter tyres - this is the best compromise.

ian316

726 posts

44 months

Friday 7th December 2018
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SpeckledJim said:
0a said:
The Ad says it has had a cheapo respray - they couldn't even be bothered to mask the handles off!
Sugar. OK, do not want.
It's one screw to take the handles off some ebay ones and 30 minutes problem solved, although if the sprayer wasn't a cock it wouldn't need doing

Stedman

6,301 posts

131 months

Friday 7th December 2018
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Rubins4 said:
P6 - Nothing to do with the P6000? I had a set on my last barge (Volvo V70 Classic estate) which were very poor in the wet, although in fairness they were perhaps a bit old and worn.

No, they were st when new too!

Zonergem

1,115 posts

31 months

Friday 7th December 2018
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The 190E will likely want the common Merc size 195/65/15 and the last test of that size put the Hankook K125 Ventus Prime 3 on top of the pile.

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2018-AutoBild...

https://www.camskill.co.uk/m53b0s418p135496/Hankoo...



SpeckledJim

17,843 posts

192 months

Friday 7th December 2018
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ian316 said:
SpeckledJim said:
0a said:
The Ad says it has had a cheapo respray - they couldn't even be bothered to mask the handles off!
Sugar. OK, do not want.
It's one screw to take the handles off some ebay ones and 30 minutes problem solved, although if the sprayer wasn't a cock it wouldn't need doing
Granted, but I think a respray so slapdash that they didn't mask off the handles (much less remove them) will be horrible in twenty different ways. Better to spend a couple of grand on a nicer car, IMO.

CharlesdeGaulle

9,986 posts

119 months

Friday 7th December 2018
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SpeckledJim said:
... Better to spend a couple of grand on a nicer car, IMO.
Have you learned nothing here old chap? That's not the way it's done at all; what fun would readers cars be if we all followed that line?

And you? You should know better.

SpeckledJim

17,843 posts

192 months

Friday 7th December 2018
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CharlesdeGaulle said:
SpeckledJim said:
... Better to spend a couple of grand on a nicer car, IMO.
Have you learned nothing here old chap? That's not the way it's done at all; what fun would readers cars be if we all followed that line?

And you? You should know better.
I know, I'm the cheapest of all skates, but if owning a 190e is to be fun, it's got to be a car you can feel a bit of pride in.

I like very much that it's a mad colour, and if it was either honestly sheddy, or very nice, it'd be great. But a slapdash respray is lippyonapig territory. Makes my face go all scrunchy.

r129sl

7,832 posts

142 months

Friday 7th December 2018
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BorniteIdentity said:
I’m not sure why you wouldn’t fit CrossClimate’s tbh. They are a truly remarkable tyre; genuinely revolutionary. Yes, the car didn’t have this type of rubber when new - but tyres have come a long way in 30 years and the humble w201 has not.

Fit the best, and I’d argue that - short of summer and winter tyres - this is the best compromise.
The 190 definitely takes 185/65 R 15 size tyres. I'd fit Cross Climates, too. I can't see the point of ultra high performance tyres on anything that is not an ultra high performance car. If I were on a budget, I'd have a look at Fulda or Barum, especially the latter, each is owned by a premium manufacturers and they are essentially second-tier brands from first-tier makers. Or look at Kumho and Uniroyal.

These look very good value: https://www.camskill.co.uk/m138b0s7990p148744/Cont...

https://www.camskill.co.uk/m138b0s7990p132336/Pire...

https://www.camskill.co.uk/m138b0s7990p132569/Kumh...