Best smoker barges 1-5 large [Vol 13]

[cat220]

HenryHippo said:

Patrick Bateman said:

That sounds a bit st.

I have never had a multi-car policy quote be anything other than a colossal rip-off. Have always gone for 2 separate policies.

When I first got a second car, aviva mirrored the NCB I had on my first car. After the first year, rather than then building up the NCB on the second car they just continued it so when I left I had a load of years extra NCB that I didn't have to actually earn. Don't know if it was a mistake but it was most definitely a win.

Edited by Patrick Bateman on Thursday 20th December 23:29

that's a win for you!

quotes coming in at £513 for the E38 and £323 for the repmobile, which beats the £950 I paid for the duo last year

I'm with Footman James on a multicar policy about £400 all in for my 4 barges, my freelander 2 is on a separate policy.

[cat220]

Krikkit said:

W00DY said:

0a said:

I fancy a £1k random barge, having missed out on a Saab 9000. Suggestions welcome!

I don’t need one, but have not purchased anything for a while... otherwise it might be a hospital beige 205.

It's not £1k or a barge, but it'd be a lovely car to enjoy.



https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1996-BMW-E36-328i-Manua...

I can imagine that being a great thing to snoofle about in for spring - top down, straight-6 stirred by Manuel.

If that was local to me I would be very tempted, looks great and the MOT history looks reasonable. im surprised the market hasn't picked up on these.

[defblade]

Prinny said:

The speakers I’ve got showing are the ones that will be going in. Focal 165AS3.

The amp. is somewhat overkill, it’s almost double the speaker rating on RMS, but that’s for me not to be an idiot & crank it too much - reasonable, not retail park volumes!

The Focals are lovely speakers. It's all about the mounting, sealing and a bit of deadening to get the best from any speakers, mind.

Be far more aware of clipping, particularly from the HU pre-amp, than the RMS power of the amp as such. A clipped signal will kill the speakers far more quickly than "too much" smooth power.

[QuantumTokoloshi]

Prinny said:

QuantumTokoloshi said:

Are you doing the door speakers too? What did you use ? My factors speakers are giving issues, so would like to replace the speakers.

Lots of useful info.

Thanks for that.

Be good to see some pics of the final result.

[Krikkit]

cat220 said:

Krikkit said:

W00DY said:

0a said:

I fancy a £1k random barge, having missed out on a Saab 9000. Suggestions welcome!

I don’t need one, but have not purchased anything for a while... otherwise it might be a hospital beige 205.

It's not £1k or a barge, but it'd be a lovely car to enjoy.



https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1996-BMW-E36-328i-Manua...

I can imagine that being a great thing to snoofle about in for spring - top down, straight-6 stirred by Manuel.

If that was local to me I would be very tempted, looks great and the MOT history looks reasonable. im surprised the market hasn't picked up on these.

I suspect it's because they hit the doldrums about the same time as the E46 went with it - the 46 is a significant improvement everywhere in terms of driving and engineering imho, even though the E36 is a good car it'll never be a great imho.

Still, good for us now as there's a few good E36 left about for buttons.

[dbdb]

Krikkit said:

I think it's representative of them sizing it up to be an S-class rival (or trying!), whereas it was significantly smaller in previous generations. Compared to a modern Range Rover etc it's not silly at all imo.

The Jaguar XJ has always been a big car - it is just that in the past it was styled in such a way as to minimise its bulk.

The XJ40 is almost exactly the same size as the Mercedes W126 for example - the two cars are only a couple of milimetres apart in terms of width.

Mercedes W126 length 198" and width 79"

Jaguar XJ40 length 196" and width 79"

My brother had a Jaguar XJ Supersport of the current shape a few years back. It was a superb car and he was very pleased with it. I agree that it lacks the elegance of previous XJs, but it is selling in a market place that no longer rewards refinement in styling.

[cornershop]

SpeckledJim said:

cornershop said:

Gents, read the following T&C on a dealers website

Is this a valid get out clause for the vendor on any issue on a car found post-purchase?

“In relation to the trader descriptions act 1991 the website content of specifications, mechanical condition listed for individual vehicles cannot be held and should not be taken as read.
The content of the website should always be confirmed and it’s the buyer’s responsibility to satisfy them on completion of the transaction.
<garage name> cannot be held responsible or liable for any discrepancies, omissions, or inaccuracy before, after or at any point of sale.
<garage name> endeavours to ensure 100% accuracy of descriptions, details and specifications”

No, it’s not. A trader can’t get a ‘punter’ to sign away their rights. Not sure what the ‘Trader descriptions Act 1991’ is, but it’s not valid today, if it ever was.

It’s all a shame, because our over-protective consumer protections mean the trade runs scared from our kind of bangers.

We should be allowed to buy cars from the trade on any basis whatsoever as long as we’re ok with the idea of ‘sold as seen’.

Edited by SpeckledJim on Thursday 20th December 22:31

Thanks for this.

I also read yesterday that if you buy a £30k car and only pay a £100 deposit with a credit card, the protection offered by VIsa, Mastercard etc through Section 75 applies to the total value not just the amount paid on credit card.

I’m looking to clarify if this covers cash transfers from a credit card to the vendor, if they don’t offer card facilities.

[Krikkit]

dbdb said:

Krikkit said:

I think it's representative of them sizing it up to be an S-class rival (or trying!), whereas it was significantly smaller in previous generations. Compared to a modern Range Rover etc it's not silly at all imo.

The Jaguar XJ has always been a big car - it is just that in the past it was styled in such a way as to minimise its bulk.

The XJ40 is almost exactly the same size as the Mercedes W126 for example - the two cars are only a couple of milimetres apart in terms of width.

Mercedes W126 length 198" and width 79"

Jaguar XJ40 length 196" and width 79"

My brother had a Jaguar XJ Supersport of the current shape a few years back. It was a superb car and he was very pleased with it. I agree that it lacks the elegance of previous XJs, but it is selling in a market place that no longer rewards refinement in styling.

Quite right, I doff my cap on that one. Interesting how a bit of styling can hide it.

Even with the W220 it was only a couple of inches either way to the x308.

[SouthernSkye]

Prinny,
Found an image of my X300 XJR. This was the car I liked best from all I've owned to date. I saw JC on TG test one when it was released and promised myself I would own one.....one day. Anyway, after some years of saving and the prices lowering as savings increased, they finally met at the sweet spot. I bought this from a garage at Silverstone race track. I had the car for several years and it was my daily. It spent a lot of time in Germany with me, as I was working over there for nigh on 9 years. My daily commute included a reasonable stretch of unlimited Autobahn. Happy days surprising a number of locals with the turn of speed she had, well, up to the 155mph limiter anyway



This beauty finally bit the dust after I had spent Christmas and New Year at home and, with a week to go before my return to DE, she refused to start. She was shipped to a specialist in Nottinghamshire (David Marks....wonderful chap, great team) who sorted a new wiring loom and sold it on to a Gent who had one and wanted another for his collection.

I, meanwhile, bought a 2.7TD X350 sovereign from Jaguar in Inverness. A 3 year old machine with 17k on the odo (images of that will follow)
Rgds
Richard.

[Krikkit]

That's fantastic, up there with the best wheel combo fitted to a saloon imho.

[SpeckledJim]

SouthernSkye said:

Prinny,
Found an image of my X300 XJR. This was the car I liked best from all I've owned to date. I saw JC on TG test one when it was released and promised myself I would own one.....one day. Anyway, after some years of saving and the prices lowering as savings increased, they finally met at the sweet spot. I bought this from a garage at Silverstone race track. I had the car for several years and it was my daily. It spent a lot of time in Germany with me, as I was working over there for nigh on 9 years. My daily commute included a reasonable stretch of unlimited Autobahn. Happy days surprising a number of locals with the turn of speed she had, well, up to the 155mph limiter anyway



This beauty finally bit the dust after I had spent Christmas and New Year at home and, with a week to go before my return to DE, she refused to start. She was shipped to a specialist in Nottinghamshire (David Marks....wonderful chap, great team) who sorted a new wiring loom and sold it on to a Gent who had one and wanted another for his collection.

I, meanwhile, bought a 2.7TD X350 sovereign from Jaguar in Inverness. A 3 year old machine with 17k on the odo (images of that will follow)
Rgds
Richard.

I got a poster of an XJR from the Jaguar stand at the Birmingham Motorshow in (I think) 1994, in exactly that spec. I promised myself one then, and still intend to keep that promise.

The single most beautiful three box saloon of them all. Ever. Ever.

Woefully overlooked due to ubiquity. If it was a Maserati they only made 5000 of, they'd be worth huge fortunes.

[rm163603]

Krikkit said:

Manual, which avoids the grenade autobox (the most difficult one to check). The clutches are quite heavy (relatively speaking) even when in top fettle on manual cars, don't expect that modern feel-less clutch pedal.

Check all the toys, the dash unit can fail so make sure it works correctly. Listen for suspension faults as they're heavy cars.

Otherwise the engines etc are all very good - the 2.4 is a reliable if unspectacular unit, for some gentle barging it's fine. The D5 is better as a long-term prospect, but I wouldn't miss having a diesel.

As you say the autos are pretty terrible.

with the auto make sure drive is taken up swiftly and smoothly when you select d. often there is a pause then drive engages quite harshly which is a sign it's on it's way out.

Don't be surprised to hear some clonks from the suspension. commonly this is drop links or top mounts or shocks themselves.

Front bushes wear quickly so check those particularly the inner front wishbone bushes.

These cars are my barge of choice as apart from general wear and tear they are pretty solid and dont seem to rust as much as other barges of the period.

[0a]

olly755 said:

This looks alright. Slightly sporting manual barge. Year’s MOT too.



https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2...

Edited by olly755 on Wednesday 19th December 23:22

Hopefully tonight!

[SouthernSkye]

Krikkit said:

That's fantastic, up there with the best wheel combo fitted to a saloon imho.

Yes, it was everything I wanted, exterior colour, Ivory leather....and those wheels (a hint of the wolfrace alloys I loved on cars as a child)....a ready-pimped supercharged Jaaag. It was, I admit, love. I still miss this car today.
Rgds
Richard.

[0a]

0a said:

olly755 said:

This looks alright. Slightly sporting manual barge. Year’s MOT too.



https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2...

Edited by olly755 on Wednesday 19th December 23:22

Hopefully tonight!

Came back as CatB

[cat220]

0a said:

0a said:

olly755 said:

This looks alright. Slightly sporting manual barge. Year’s MOT too.



https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2...

Edited by olly755 on Wednesday 19th December 23:22

Hopefully tonight!

Came back as CatB

That's annoying! How about the e36 posted earlier? Buy it to get it out my head!

[0a]

cat220 said:

That's annoying! How about the e36 posted earlier? Buy it to get it out my head!

I like it but the clutch and miles put me off a bit. Chasing another e39.

Any suggestions for cars between Newcastle and London (on a train but can jump off) welcome!

[Krikkit]

0a said:

0a said:

olly755 said:

This looks alright. Slightly sporting manual barge. Year’s MOT too.



https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2...

Edited by olly755 on Wednesday 19th December 23:22

Hopefully tonight!

Came back as CatB

Same VIN? They've embedded an HPI panel that says no write-off cat.

[0a]

Krikkit said:

Same VIN? They've embedded an HPI panel that says no write-off cat.

Strange - I used total car check which says it was on a private plate back in 2003 when it happened.

I’ve agreed to buy another one now!

[Krikkit]

Good result anyway! Details please

Sadly, I've been told I can't have an E39 - my father in law had a string of them, and now he's gone the wife can't bear to look at them.