Best smoker barges 1-5 large [Vol 13]

Best smoker barges 1-5 large [Vol 13]

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olly755

3,070 posts

163 months

Monday 14th January 2019
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0a said:
Sub 2k e38 728. For some reason I like the ad. Claims new fuel tank and general good condition. Had I not purchased the e39 I would be giving the owner a call to judge things further. https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C106256
I really like the external appearance of that. The wheels, the silver paint, the black rubbing strips, the amberage. Elegant, understated, subtle. For me, more desirable than the bejewelled and big rimmed, late edition Sport that everyone goes mad for.

Shame about the interior though.

Bonefish Blues

26,945 posts

224 months

Monday 14th January 2019
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The Don of Croy said:
The rash of barge updates forces me to share the news that my V70 is to be treated to a pair of Osram nightbreakers.

£12 for the pair.

Hopefully this may help with the MOT whereby dim reflectors have been diagnosed and recorded on the pass. Luckily the tester sent me away to sort the eml (listed on the last two tests) which left me £250 poorer, but the proud new owner of a Denso CO2 sensor.

As you were.
Have you thought of LEDs?

nobrakes

3,008 posts

199 months

Tuesday 15th January 2019
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Copied from the high mileage thread:

Dapster said:

Lowtimer

4,293 posts

169 months

Tuesday 15th January 2019
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Can we put that in a quiet romantically-lit garage that with r129sl's estate and see if they breed?

sbk1972

855 posts

77 months

Tuesday 15th January 2019
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Great thread guys.

Notice that some of you describe how the car for sale was sold previously and for what price. is there a web site that lists previous car sales ? How are you finding this information as I would love to be able to track what my existing cars were sold for prior to me, and pending new purchases.

SBK

E65Ross

35,144 posts

213 months

Tuesday 15th January 2019
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Krikkit said:
For a rust killer I've used Hammerite Kurust before - I remember the Bilt Hamber range of items are well reviewed, but a different class of expense really.
Yep, and well worth it in my opinion. Used BH stuff on my old E21 when I had it (can't believe that was 7.5 years ago I sold that!!!!

tobinen

9,253 posts

146 months

Tuesday 15th January 2019
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sbk1972 said:
Great thread guys.

Notice that some of you describe how the car for sale was sold previously and for what price. is there a web site that lists previous car sales ? How are you finding this information as I would love to be able to track what my existing cars were sold for prior to me, and pending new purchases.

SBK
I would say it's more likely the same cars which appeal to this thread are monitored and remembered. Similar to GCHQ but for barges.

tog

4,552 posts

229 months

Tuesday 15th January 2019
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Bonefish Blues said:
Have you thought of LEDs?
[canofworms] What's the legality of fitting LEDs instead of regular halogen bulbs? [/onceopenedcantclose]

Bonefish Blues

26,945 posts

224 months

Tuesday 15th January 2019
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I understand that they are legal and there was a recent thread where op passed MOT

Dr Interceptor

7,813 posts

197 months

Tuesday 15th January 2019
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Bonefish Blues said:
I understand that they are legal and there was a recent thread where op passed MOT
I have LED headlights in my 1973 Volkswagen, and they pass an MOT. At night it's just like driving a new car.

From what I understand, they have a very direct beam, and less 'spread' than Xenon/HID lamps. This is why modern cars with LEDs don't need lamp washers or self levelling suspension, but those with Xenons do. Because of this LEDs cause less glare than Xenons/HIDs.

olly755

3,070 posts

163 months

Tuesday 15th January 2019
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Lowtimer said:
Can we put that in a quiet romantically-lit garage that with r129sl's estate and see if they breed?
...and nine months later out pops a jaundiced little baby 190.

Hey wait a minute...

tog

4,552 posts

229 months

Tuesday 15th January 2019
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Dr Interceptor said:
Bonefish Blues said:
I understand that they are legal and there was a recent thread where op passed MOT
I have LED headlights in my 1973 Volkswagen, and they pass an MOT. At night it's just like driving a new car.

From what I understand, they have a very direct beam, and less 'spread' than Xenon/HID lamps. This is why modern cars with LEDs don't need lamp washers or self levelling suspension, but those with Xenons do. Because of this LEDs cause less glare than Xenons/HIDs.
Super, so I can fit them in regular reflector headlights? Might go shopping... [/closecanofworms]

longblackcoat

5,047 posts

184 months

Tuesday 15th January 2019
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Dr Interceptor said:
Bonefish Blues said:
I understand that they are legal and there was a recent thread where op passed MOT
I have LED headlights in my 1973 Volkswagen, and they pass an MOT. At night it's just like driving a new car.

From what I understand, they have a very direct beam, and less 'spread' than Xenon/HID lamps. This is why modern cars with LEDs don't need lamp washers or self levelling suspension, but those with Xenons do. Because of this LEDs cause less glare than Xenons/HIDs.
I can only support this – I have LED bulbs in my 2006 E-Class, and it’s quite literally like night and day. As it happens, my car has both self-levelling and headlamp washers, so it’s well-prepared for retrofitted Xenons or LED. No-one has flashed me, and I’ve driven in convoy with it behind me and have not been in any way dazzled.

It’s passed an MOT since without comment.


Salmonofdoubt

1,413 posts

69 months

Tuesday 15th January 2019
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I was looking at led bulbs in Halfords they seemed to be flogging some sort of wiring conversion kit to go with them. Is that needed or just something they're flogging to folks what know nothing?

Dr Interceptor

7,813 posts

197 months

Tuesday 15th January 2019
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tog said:
Super, so I can fit them in regular reflector headlights? Might go shopping... [/closecanofworms]
Just buy quality (like Philips) bulbs, and take it to an MOT centre and ask them to check the alignment.

QuantumTokoloshi

4,166 posts

218 months

Tuesday 15th January 2019
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Dr Interceptor said:
tog said:
Super, so I can fit them in regular reflector headlights? Might go shopping... [/closecanofworms]
Just buy quality (like Philips) bulbs, and take it to an MOT centre and ask them to check the alignment.
Definitely be careful what you buy.

A useful article on relative performance, you get what you pay for.

https://www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk/blog/are-led-hea...

longblackcoat

5,047 posts

184 months

Tuesday 15th January 2019
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QuantumTokoloshi said:
Dr Interceptor said:
tog said:
Super, so I can fit them in regular reflector headlights? Might go shopping... [/closecanofworms]
Just buy quality (like Philips) bulbs, and take it to an MOT centre and ask them to check the alignment.
Definitely be careful what you buy.

A useful article on relative performance, you get what you pay for.

https://www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk/blog/are-led-hea...
Cheap Chinese stuff is not really worth it. I've used Philips bulbs, which cost circa £100-120, but they're worth every penny. Easy to fit as well.

Dr Interceptor

7,813 posts

197 months

Tuesday 15th January 2019
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Salmonofdoubt said:
I was looking at led bulbs in Halfords they seemed to be flogging some sort of wiring conversion kit to go with them. Is that needed or just something they're flogging to folks what know nothing?
Depends on the car - some cars with modern Canbus systems can have a right hissy fit. Best googling to find someone who has done the conversion on your make/model to be sure.

You also have to factor in the cooling and heat sink, and whether they will fit in the bulb holder. The heat sinks/fans have come a long way in the last couple of years, and are much smaller now, so they fit in more applications, but still worth checking before you spend the best part of £150 on a set of bulbs.

Salmonofdoubt

1,413 posts

69 months

Tuesday 15th January 2019
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Dr Interceptor said:
Depends on the car - some cars with modern Canbus systems can have a right hissy fit. Best googling to find someone who has done the conversion on your make/model to be sure.

You also have to factor in the cooling and heat sink, and whether they will fit in the bulb holder. The heat sinks/fans have come a long way in the last couple of years, and are much smaller now, so they fit in more applications, but still worth checking before you spend the best part of £150 on a set of bulbs.
Thanks for the useful reply. As my current mode of transport is a cheap Kia I won't be dropping that much, I fitted some decent brighter bulbs just because my commute at night involves a very dark stretch of road that's used by a lot of farm stuff.

TheVole

535 posts

154 months

Tuesday 15th January 2019
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Dr Interceptor said:
Salmonofdoubt said:
I was looking at led bulbs in Halfords they seemed to be flogging some sort of wiring conversion kit to go with them. Is that needed or just something they're flogging to folks what know nothing?
Depends on the car - some cars with modern Canbus systems can have a right hissy fit. Best googling to find someone who has done the conversion on your make/model to be sure.

You also have to factor in the cooling and heat sink, and whether they will fit in the bulb holder. The heat sinks/fans have come a long way in the last couple of years, and are much smaller now, so they fit in more applications, but still worth checking before you spend the best part of £150 on a set of bulbs.
Not a barge-ist (yet - I've got first dibs on my dad's RX400h when he wants rid of it in the next year or so) but CANBUS cars can throw a fit at LED bulbs. I've got Nighteye LEDs in my mini-barge Volvo C30 - they're eBay special jobs but I was given them so can't complain. They are brilliant - very bright, great range and they really are an improvement over the awful lighting that Volvo fitted.

However, they do throw up errors on the screen for the bulbs being out. They aren't, but I don't think the CANBUS system is seeing the correct resistance so thinks the bulb is out. As for fitting them in the light cluster, mine have the heatsink/fan assembly on the back of the bulb and they (just) fit inside the cluster. I could be wrong, but I think that the 'wiring kits' available for these bulbs are little more than a resistor to go in between the bulb and the car's original headlight wiring to trick the car into thinking there's a normal bulb in there.
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