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[minimoog]

E65Ross said:

£10k

When you consider how much better metal is around for the money, you'd be mad to buy that. And only 256bhp from a 4.6 V8 in a car made in 2006? I'd much rather an E65 750i and some change left for repairs/servicing.

Also, what the hell is that front end all about? Never seen that before - is it a Chinese thing or summat?

[SpeckledJim]

dme123 said:

SpeckledJim said:

The biggest threat to these cars is mice.

I had noticed that there is a steady and never ending trickle of super clean, low mileage V6 75s selling for three digit figures. Getting rid of grandads old car ready to sell the house, presumably.

It really is an itch I must scratch one day, I like the 75 a lot and they do seem to have built them very well.

That's it. That, or Grandad's gone for a Hyundai i10 or Fiesta.

75s don't really rust, or at least, they don't rust anything like an E46 or W203, or X-Type, and that's seeing them survive in good numbers, as well as having perhaps the most proper, upstanding set of owners since the W201.

Most trim bits are now NLA, but they easily scavenged from breakers, and all the important oily and rotatey and goey and stoppy and sparky bits are still available new, as are a lot of bodywork parts.

V6 inlet manifolds notwithstanding. Those are still killing lots of otherwise very nice cars, so be careful with V6s.

[SpeckledJim]

minimoog said:

E65Ross said:

£10k

When you consider how much better metal is around for the money, you'd be mad to buy that. And only 256bhp from a 4.6 V8 in a car made in 2006? I'd much rather an E65 750i and some change left for repairs/servicing.

Also, what the hell is that front end all about? Never seen that before - is it a Chinese thing or summat?

V8 got its own bumper. Supposedly inspired by the P5.

Anything Audi can do...

[anonymous-user]

SpeckledJim said:

Can't disagree with any of that. Lots of V8 stuff is NLA, and an S-Type does the same job better.

The Rover sounds better though. Much better.

Use some of the £8k you saved by not buying the Rover to put a loud exhaust on your S-Type?

[JOB2.5-16]

Almost 15 times over thread budget, but hopefully it’s viewing will be allowed under the much revered “Quite Obviously Bornite Clause”.

https://www.bramley.com/carsales/details/Bentley/M...

Also, this talk of Turbo Rs has once again reminded me of my complete and utter idiocy, when I decided to auction my 1987 Acrylic White with Blue and magnolia interior. 47k miles and one previous owner. It made £9k.

[SpeckledJim]

dme123 said:

SpeckledJim said:

Can't disagree with any of that. Lots of V8 stuff is NLA, and an S-Type does the same job better.

The Rover sounds better though. Much better.

Use some of the £8k you saved by not buying the Rover to put a loud exhaust on your S-Type?

You could.

In fairness to the 75 though, Rover 75 owners are several classes above the average S-Type owner in properness. S-Types are, obviously, for Jag Man. In the £1-5k pond, that's not a generally a good thing. I have a cheap Jag, so that's a compelling Exhibit A.

Jag Man is a broad category stretching from the kind of proper chap who would also have considered a 75, all the way through to confirmed aholes. An ahole would not consider a 75, yet would be over the moon with an S-Type with extra eBay chrome.

You can trust 75 Man. He is a gentleman of the old school. He would not fit a noisy exhaust to his Rover under any circumstances. S-Type Man would snap your gnome's fishing rod in the middle of the night if he realised your 'ears of wheat' motif toaster and kettle set was newer than his.

[tobinen]

An excellent summary IMO.

[Balmoral]

Love that Mulsanne, thats a proper Crewe built Bentley branded Rolls Royce in the SZ tradition.

[SpeckledJim]

Balmoral said:

Love that Mulsanne, thats a proper Crewe built Bentley branded Rolls Royce in the SZ tradition.

A faintly amusing anecdote (ok, not really) about the Mulsanne S, was the American dealer on a trip to Crewe who loudly called it, with relish and panache, the "Mull-sanny Five!"

Silence rang out...

[Salmonofdoubt]

I’ve just spent the past 45 minutes looking at rover 75 adverts. The prices are all over the place with no real reason for the differences.

[SpeckledJim]

Salmonofdoubt said:

I’ve just spent the past 45 minutes looking at rover 75 adverts. The prices are all over the place with no real reason for the differences.

The value of a smart 75 is directly corellated to the proximity of the delivery date of the brand new i10.

Every single 75, regardless of condition and spec, has a trade-in value against an i10 of £150.

Go in hard with a bid of £160, and wait!

[Balmoral]

Nicely observed, the i10 and it's ilk are the spritual successor to the City Rover.

[Krikkit]

I know it's wrong, but much like Vauxhall, I couldn't own a Rover. I just couldn't.

JOB2.5-16 said:

Almost 15 times over thread budget, but hopefully it’s viewing will be allowed under the much revered “Quite Obviously Bornite Clause”.

https://www.bramley.com/carsales/details/Bentley/M...

Also, this talk of Turbo Rs has once again reminded me of my complete and utter idiocy, when I decided to auction my 1987 Acrylic White with Blue and magnolia interior. 47k miles and one previous owner. It made £9k.

Also allowed under the "Extremely stripey-hoovered carpet" clause.

Beautiful car, the coachlines are a perfect touch.

[SpeckledJim]

Krikkit said:

I know it's wrong, but much like Vauxhall, I couldn't own a Rover. I just couldn't.

Like a tepid, fetid sex pond in the garden. Seems so wrong. Feels so right. Jump in.

Bet you've already got the chunky knits. (not a euphemism)



(with you on the Vauxhall though. There are limits)

[Croutons]

If you can trust 75 Man, what makers we if the racy nature of a 45 Streetwise buyer? Below thread at 795 with 55k. https://www.gumtree.com/p/rover/04-rover-streetwis...

And the new RR, 5.0SC, currently 32x thread. How long before they're in it?
https://www.gumtree.com/p/land-rover/2018-land-rov...

[Salmonofdoubt]

SpeckledJim said:

The value of a smart 75 is directly corellated to the proximity of the delivery date of the brand new i10.

Every single 75, regardless of condition and spec, has a trade-in value against an i10 of £150.

Go in hard with a bid of £160, and wait!

Hmm turn up and view one in a borrowed i10 to remind them of the Korean goodness.

[dbdb]

0a said:

JOB2.5-16 said:

Another one leaving Chesterfield for the last time. A local car from new with it's original Bridgegate Chesterfield dealer sticker and number plates, 75k miles and Alpine White with BBS' - THE spec for an E30!

N.B. The W201 is the better car.

erJ5lb9ORweinRwDBVZiZg by Jack O'Brien, on Flickr

What a photo! How were they seen in the day - was the merc viewed as a lot more expensive, less sporty, higher quality as I assume?

As I remember it, the E30 was very much the choice of the aspiring 'Yuppie' executive, whilst the 190 nearly always seemed to be owned by wealthy retired people.

[SpeckledJim]

dbdb said:

As I remember it, the E30 was very much the choice of the aspiring 'Yuppie' executive, whilst the 190 nearly always seemed to be owned by wealthy retired people.

I'd agree. Very different owner groups.

I had an E30 at 18. Would not have wanted a W201 at that point.

Contrast to today, when a C Class and 3 Series are effectively the same car, benchmarked ruthlessly against each other, and sold the same way, to the same people.

[MajorMantra]

Croutons said:

If you can trust 75 Man, what makers we if the racy nature of a 45 Streetwise buyer? Below thread at 795 with 55k. https://www.gumtree.com/p/rover/04-rover-streetwis...

And the new RR, 5.0SC, currently 32x thread. How long before they're in it?
https://www.gumtree.com/p/land-rover/2018-land-rov...

dealer said said:

From time to time the engine management light will come on. This is due to a faulty exhaust sensor (O2 sensor). It has been like this for the last few years and doesn't affect the drive whatsoever.

Dealers aren't going to have to stop spouting this with the new MOT rules. A persistent EML can't be ignored anymore because it's a fail.

That does otherwise seem like a decent car for the money. Excessive mid-2000s plastic cladding has a certain je ne sais quoi. A harbinger of the crossover madness that followed...

[SpeckledJim]

Croutons said:

If you can trust 75 Man, what makers we if the racy nature of a 45 Streetwise buyer? Below thread at 795 with 55k. https://www.gumtree.com/p/rover/04-rover-streetwis...

Streetwise was distasteful, but a very prescient car.

It has been copied shamelessly by just about all the big boys, but I can't find any of them giving it credit for inventing the sector.

(Yes, Golf Country, but that was much more serious a thing)