Best smoker barges 1-5 large [Vol 13]

[Rubins4]

BigBen said:

I think it is indeed cast-iron, as a gesture to contributors to this thread I am prepared to sell my W220 S600 to any of them for way less than £30k.

Way less you say....

[Easternlight]

Rubins4 said:

With less demand for fossil fuels, hopefully prices will come down so I can start running V8/V12's as a daily.

Don't wish for that that! it's the demand for fuel that keeps the price down.

[Rubins4]

Croutons said:

Ignore me. I’m just pissed my E39 has gone to the great scrapyard in the sky today. 2 rear airbags, the compressor, put it on a ramp and the rot has got there too,big time. Another one bites the dust...

Still, more reason to shop barge!

Sad times. At least it was more than just a rusted out jubilee clip (rest in peace my V70 classic, gone but not forgotten).

[Balmoral]

Easternlight said:

Rubins4 said:

With less demand for fossil fuels, hopefully prices will come down so I can start running V8/V12's as a daily.

Don't wish for that that! it's the demand for fuel that keeps the price down.

When we're running something that works on internal combustion as an obscure hobby that frightens animals and children, we'll be buying it from the chemists again in tins like we did at the turn of the last century.

[BigBen]

Rubins4 said:

BigBen said:

I think it is indeed cast-iron, as a gesture to contributors to this thread I am prepared to sell my W220 S600 to any of them for way less than £30k.

Way less you say....

Way way less, and I will even guarantee to buy it back from the vendor for £30k in 75 years time

[CharlesdeGaulle]

CAPP0 said:

Not entirely on topic, but apropos the above, I sold an AJV8 petrol L322 at the end of last summer, considered and tried other things, and have just put a deposit on a (non-threadworthy) 5.0 SC FFRR, becasuse it's what I want. I went all around the houses on what to buy, of what age and what cost, and in the end I applied two factors: life's too short to drive boring cars, and (at present) I have the wherewithal to buy & run it, which once I'm retired may not be the case, and therefore if it's what I want I should buy it and worry about any consequences if & when they arise.

If you post something derived from this on the Match or Being Told I Don't Love You (or any of the other tragic loser relationship threads (and I confess I haunt those death-of-self-respect areas myself occasionally these days)) someone will want to snap you up in a heartbeat. Who knows, it might be me, we seem compatible* after all.

*Although the 'full-fat' thing pisses me off beyond reason. I think it's our equivalent of the watch wkers and their 'wrist time',' collections' and photos of their forearms against a steering wheel which makes 'us' appear almost normal. fking pretentious tts.

And yes, It's been a long day.

Edited by CharlesdeGaulle on Thursday 24th January 20:00

[Rubins4]

Easternlight said:

Don't wish for that that! it's the demand for fuel that keeps the price down.

Is this completely true? Oil will always be pumped out of the ground even if transportation isn't the primary industry (for instancebplastics, and a load of other industries I'm sure). If your distilling crude (or whatever the correct term is) petrol is one of the by-products. Less demand for similar-ish supply should equal cheaper fuel but I appreciate there are a number of other factors that have a bearing on this, maybe even a more significant bearing than i have considered.

How do others assess the situation?

[Fatlad1973]

Salmonofdoubt said:

dme123 said:

Electric propulsion is the best thing to happen to the car since the electric starter. Total smoothness, amazing performance compared to comparable ICE alternatives, near silence from the powertrain, you lose a lot of weight and complexity, and you get shot of a big source of expensive maintenance and repairs.

Not so much for sports cars.

For those who love second hand bargains I'm still not sure what an electrified motoring future holds. I think the shift to leasing/PCP over outright ownership is a long term strategy to eventually have almost all cars on rental agreements and as long as you have to keep replacing batteries as the major ownership cost that would be how cars stay.

It will be interesting to see if in 20 years time you can buy a ten year old car or if they'll have all been recycled or put into a different hire fleet.

In 20 years' time most people will just summon an autonomous electric vehicle as and when needed via an app - the Uber model developed to its logical conclusion. Hardly any cars will be owned by individuals, other than trophy classics.
If I had the balls I'd be balls deep in a CL600 and I'd celebrate getting home every night with a large malt whiskey. Enjoy it while you can!

[Balmoral]

CharlesdeGaulle said:

I think it's our equivalent of the watch wkers and their 'wrist time',' collections' and photos of their forearms against a steering wheel

I like a nice watch, I'm sure bargistas can appreciate fine engineering and craftsmanship from an iconic marque? Trouble is a nice watch just gets more expensive rather than becoming a £500 snotter.

I posted a piss take photo when I bought an Omega, 2CV dashboard shot

[CharlesdeGaulle]

Balmoral said:

CharlesdeGaulle said:

I think it's our equivalent of the watch wkers and their 'wrist time',' collections' and photos of their forearms against a steering wheel

I like a nice watch, I'm sure bargistas can appreciate fine engineering and craftsmanship from an iconic marque? Trouble is a nice watch just gets more expensive rather than becoming a £500 snotter.

I posted a piss take photo when I bought an Omega, 2CV dashboard shot

I like a nice watch too, I just hope I don't increase my bell-end-quotient by the way I choose to brag about it. Sadly on our (perhaps) sister thread, many fail that important indicator of self-awareness and good taste.

Like I say, it's been a long day!

[Chromegrill]

Love the discussion on the Rover 75. When I bought mine nearly eight years ago it was eight years old, had 40,000 miles on the clock, a V6 engine and auto box and it cost me a grand. Actually it didn't cost me anything as I traded it in for a six year old Hyundai that I was offered a grand for. Best decision I ever made pretty much, no comparison with the Hyundai.

It's thrown a few wobblies over the years though nothing unexpected given age and mileage and in terms of maintenance has been remarkably cheap to fix thanks to the network of ex-Rover mechanics who know their way around these cars and fix them almost as a hobby and sometimes even for free (at owners' club mechanic meets). Never a problem sourcing parts, though I did have to replace the engine insulation once after the original one disappeared down a mousehole (literally). They don't rust, they are strong and safe, supremely comfortable, decent boot size and smaller than they look so quite easy to park in tight spaces with sensors. I don't smoke a pipe or wear slippers but they do seem to encourage leisurely stress-free driving though they are more than capable of a turn of speed if you floor it. I enjoy reading this thread but having had mine as long as I have now I actually can't think of anything I'd rather replace it with and certainly not in the sub-£5k bracket as a comfy barge. Demand for them (and their parts) is actually pretty strong in continental Europe where they enjoy quite a following, and prices especially in Scandinavia for a used 75 are pretty eye-watering. One of British motoring's best kept bargains surely.

Supposedly Rover was the "poor man's Jaguar" originally, the car of choice for trusted people ike your banker or doctor. Indeed the first ever Rover was bought by a doctor. Although I'm a doctor I don't mind that I have colleagues coming into work in XFs and the occasional XJ; if they want to pay 20 times what I paid for something newer, flashier but probably no more reliable that's their choice.

[SpeckledJim]

See, everyone?

Proper person.

[Balmoral]

It's interesting you mention continental demand, over the decades the export market was rather good and there wasn't the baggage associated with the BL/AR/MGR marques that we had here, they were usually surprised when they learnt of it.

[The Don of Croy]

Just to add on the subject of Rover 75 V8 barnstormers... there's a thread on here somewhere written iirc by a chap involved with the development, with an amusing description of the factory immobiliser (that is Ford), talking to the alarm system (German), controlled by a Rover central locking unit. What could possibly...?

[CharlesdeGaulle]

Chromegrill said:

... I don't mind that I have colleagues coming into work in XFs and the occasional XJ; if they want to pay 20 times what I paid for something newer, flashier but probably no more reliable that's their choice.

Hey doc, you need to point your pals in our direction. We'll have them in something hugely doctor-ish for a fraction of that price.

Maybe.

[Croutons]

C6, only Lineage, but great ad.

https://www.gumtree.com/p/citroen/2007-citroen-c6-...

[Krikkit]

Croutons said:

C6, only Lineage, but great ad.

https://www.gumtree.com/p/citroen/2007-citroen-c6-...

Great ad, least desirable C6 to my mind sadly. Coal hole, half leather.

For me it'd be cream leather with the TGV rear seats, just cos.

[SpeckledJim]

Krikkit said:

Croutons said:

C6, only Lineage, but great ad.

https://www.gumtree.com/p/citroen/2007-citroen-c6-...

Great ad, least desirable C6 to my mind sadly. Coal hole, half leather.

For me it'd be cream leather with the TGV rear seats, just cos.

Yup. A C6 without all the stuff isn’t on the list.

Out there somewhere is a top spec V6 LPG with a pale interior and I’d happily swap the W221 for it.

[Krikkit]

SpeckledJim said:

Krikkit said:

Croutons said:

C6, only Lineage, but great ad.

https://www.gumtree.com/p/citroen/2007-citroen-c6-...

Great ad, least desirable C6 to my mind sadly. Coal hole, half leather.

For me it'd be cream leather with the TGV rear seats, just cos.

Yup. A C6 without all the stuff isn’t on the list.

Out there somewhere is a top spec V6 LPG with a pale interior and I’d happily swap the W221 for it.

There was one with a black interior with LPG up best Harrogate last year. I was so tempted to buy and swap the interior with another.

[Rockettvr]

Evening all
To start thanks to all for your suggestions and links to vehicles for sale for me to take a look at - the R class mentioned a few pages back is interesting- I’m sure my offspring would welcome the individual seats in the rear but ultimately it’s not doing it for me. Was going to view a 5 series touring on Saturday but just been informed it’s sold. I’ve received a link to a car on my WhatsApp- I’m guessing from one of you gentlemen out there via the forum - not sure how but whoever it was - thank you
So what do you all think of this ??
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
Solid service history - the recurring advisory about slightly corroded brake lines for the last few mots worry me a bit - wonder why it’s not been addressed before it gets out of hand
Actually contacted this dealer a couple of weeks ago re a 3.0 e class but it was in the process of being sold - dealer said he’d contact me to let me know if it sold or not and true to his word he did a couple of days later to comfirm it had gone so pretty good with his personal service
Not being at all familiar with mercs Is there anything I need to know about this model and this car in particular?? Is the 270 a good engine or am I better off going for the 6 cylinder engine ???
Many thanks Ron

Edited by Rockettvr on Thursday 24th January 21:55