RE: McLaren 600LT revealed

RE: McLaren 600LT revealed

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MCBrowncoat

890 posts

147 months

Wednesday 11th July 2018
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So: still don't get the LT designation, can someone explain? Because is isn't? It's.....tail?

Ahonen

5,017 posts

280 months

Wednesday 11th July 2018
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theRossatron said:
I don't think you need to take it so literally. I'd say its more about the idealogy or concept than getting your measuring tape out. The 570s Spider doesn't have 8 legs either.
But it does have an adaptation of the spider roof concept. Maybe they should have called this car the SLT, for Slightly Longer Tail. Then then can do another version later on called the MLT (Much Longer Tail).

I know I'm being stupidly picky and it's clearly just a marketing gimmick to hark back to the F1, but it does strike me as a bit daft when the real long tail cars had an extra couple of feet while this has three inches. Years ago I had a Skoda Fabia vRS which had slightly extended bumpers to make it the minimum length required for WRC homologation, so I guess that was an LT too.

Onehp

1,617 posts

284 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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Kudos for posting DIN weights in the update.

As for LT. If the car actually was 2 feet longer, PH surely would complain too 'is that really necessary, hard to park as is', 'doesn't that weigh more', 'does it really need such extreme aerodynamics, it's not a real racecar', 'it's just empty space in there, why not make a big trunk for my shoe collection', etc.

E65Ross

35,100 posts

213 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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MCBrowncoat said:
So: still don't get the LT designation, can someone explain? Because is isn't? It's.....tail?
It is because the rear/tail of the car is longer. Just because it isn't 6 feet longer, doesn't mean it isn't longer.

I doubt that many would be too happy about their small sports car which is still, ultimately, designed to be a usable car if it were 2-3 feet longer.

mylesmcd

2,535 posts

220 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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redroadster

1,746 posts

233 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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Same engine same tub similar styling hardly any differance in performance from rest of cars they have made getting boring tbh

StottyGTR

6,860 posts

164 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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Bright Halo said:
Come on McLaren, give us something different and maybe even at a lower price point!
They did, 540c was £40k down and 1k/month for 8 years or something. A large amount of UK family's could afford that.

gofasterrosssco

1,238 posts

237 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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StottyGTR said:
Bright Halo said:
Come on McLaren, give us something different and maybe even at a lower price point!
They did, 540c was £40k down and 1k/month for 8 years or something. A large amount of UK family's could afford that.
I know, look at all those budget Ferrari's being punted out of Marranello..

gofasterrosssco

1,238 posts

237 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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redroadster said:
Same engine same tub similar styling hardly any differance in performance from rest of cars they have made getting boring tbh
Can you discuss Porsche 911's somewhere else..

bertie

8,550 posts

285 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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redroadster said:
Same engine same tub similar styling hardly any differance in performance from rest of cars they have made getting boring tbh
Apart from the fact the engine has evolved, the tub is on monocell 3 and different, and they look different, you're bang on.

p1stonhead

25,576 posts

168 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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StottyGTR said:
Bright Halo said:
Come on McLaren, give us something different and maybe even at a lower price point!
They did, 540c was £40k down and 1k/month for 8 years or something. A large amount of UK family's could afford that.
Say what now?

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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Ahonen said:
But it does have an adaptation of the spider roof concept. Maybe they should have called this car the SLT, for Slightly Longer Tail. Then then can do another version later on called the MLT (Much Longer Tail).

I know I'm being stupidly picky and it's clearly just a marketing gimmick to hark back to the F1, but it does strike me as a bit daft when the real long tail cars had an extra couple of feet while this has three inches. Years ago I had a Skoda Fabia vRS which had slightly extended bumpers to make it the minimum length required for WRC homologation, so I guess that was an LT too.
You are being rather picky.

Mac bashing is quite prevalent on PH. Almost exclusively perpetuated by those who have little or no experience of the marque.

Yes LT has become a badge. It marks the peak road legal performance variant of any given model range. It that regard it is little different from RS on top end 911s.

Why that irks so I don’t understand.

E65Ross

35,100 posts

213 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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redroadster said:
Same engine same tub similar styling hardly any differance in performance from rest of cars they have made getting boring tbh
Please stop posting such ignorant drivel. The engine is vastly different, the tub is completely redesigned (it's 2 generations on) and the styling is "similar" but that's just brand progression. Like the 911. Like just about any Ferrari, Aston, Lotus, BMW, Mercedes, Audi etc.

WCZ

10,537 posts

195 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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p1stonhead said:
Say what now?
statistically it's probably true, but only afford in the sense that they could do it by sacrificing everything

p1stonhead

25,576 posts

168 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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WCZ said:
p1stonhead said:
Say what now?
statistically it's probably true, but only afford in the sense that they could do it by sacrificing everything
I guess so. Very big difference though!



Edited by p1stonhead on Thursday 12th July 14:27

StottyGTR

6,860 posts

164 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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p1stonhead said:
StottyGTR said:
Bright Halo said:
Come on McLaren, give us something different and maybe even at a lower price point!
They did, 540c was £40k down and 1k/month for 8 years or something. A large amount of UK family's could afford that.
Say what now?
Of course they could, just people don't want to. Combined income of 80k p.a for 2 adults in their 30s with 2 children could pretty easily afford one providing they'd paid a mortgage for 10+ years and had equity. Bearing in mind when they've paid the car off after 8 years it'll still be worth 60k plus its not even a terrible move financially. But again, most people are interested and don't want to.

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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StottyGTR said:
Of course they could, just people don't want to. Combined income of 80k p.a for 2 adults in their 30s with 2 children could pretty easily afford one providing they'd paid a mortgage for 10+ years and had equity. Bearing in mind when they've paid the car off after 8 years it'll still be worth 60k plus its not even a terrible move financially. But again, most people are interested and don't want to.
I am an advocate of consumer credit but that scenario you outline sounds absolutely mental.

Ahonen

5,017 posts

280 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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Brooking10 said:
You are being rather picky.

Mac bashing is quite prevalent on PH. Almost exclusively perpetuated by those who have little or no experience of the marque.

Yes LT has become a badge. It marks the peak road legal performance variant of any given model range. It that regard it is little different from RS on top end 911s.

Why that irks so I don’t understand.
Not irked in the slightest, just bemused (and mildly amused) by the daft marketing department. No agenda. I don't have anywhere near enough knowledge of or interest in the McLaren range to 'bash' it. I have friends (pro drivers) who regularly drive the road cars for track work, but that's the only tenuous connection I have.



Thom

1,716 posts

248 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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Have McLaren proclaimed that LT necessarily meant Long Tail since they made the 675LT ?
There are quite a few inspiring combinations to choose from
Little Tosser
Lousy Troll
Laid Tranny
Large Turd
Lazy tt
Lacklustre Twit
... or a more accurate Light (&) Tight ?

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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Ahonen said:
Not irked in the slightest, just bemused (and mildly amused) by the daft marketing department. No agenda. I don't have anywhere near enough knowledge of or interest in the McLaren range to 'bash' it. I have friends (pro drivers) who regularly drive the road cars for track work, but that's the only tenuous connection I have.
If they hadn’t called it LT and instead something like RS or Track or Bruce would you have taken to the keyboard ?