RE: Porsche 919 Evo annihilates Nordschleife record

[SaggyOstrich]

That is madness!

To think how quick it feels when you do a 9 minute lap on the ring, this is doing it in almost half the time...insane.

[jimPH]

Don Colione said:

Could someone please exercise some journalistic integrity around here and let everyone know that the current iteration of the nurburgring is not the same one as in 1983.

Since the NISMO Skyline crash a few years ago in 2015: http://www.thedrive.com/watch-this/11288/watch-thi... ..

The track has been apparently extensively reworked, and all of a sudden the cheating (surprise) VAG group starts setting all of these new records there every few months now.

The German govt 'coincidentally' made these changes right around the time that Koenigsegg was about to possibly smash their Porsche 918 record.

Since then VAG has been racking them up....

Any "record" after the alteration of the track should definitely get an asterisk! Consider how hard it was for any manufacturer to break the 7 minute mark before the changes to the track.

Congratulations VAG on another successful attempt at fooling the public, and using the bought out press to do it. so no on calls them out on it.............

The track in '83 was also different to the track in '63. Maybe belloffs time needs an asterisk too.

[Halmyre]

unpc said:

I think it's been known for forever that a no limits racecar could smash any circuit record you care to mention given enough budget. I have much more respect for Bellof's attempt TBH.

[jimPH]

In my view the ring should have been left untouched since belloffs record, incase someone trys to beat his time:



It's only fair.

[isaldiri]

unpc said:

I think it's been known for forever that a no limits racecar could smash any circuit record you care to mention given enough budget. I have much more respect for Bellof's attempt TBH.

^ this.

[The Brummie]

That is an amazing time however was it ever doubted that a modern day race car such as the 919 would fall to beat Stefan’s time?

A great milestone for Porsche however I think that for many race enthusiasts Stefan’s lap will rank as nothing less the work of a genius.

[anniesdad]

Porsche > The rest.

Massive respect to all concerned. What. A. Machine.

[anniesdad]

shortar53 said:

From dickiemeaden on twittor.

"So, approach to Schwedenkreuz was 344kmh, took crest at 322... VMAX on Dottinger was 369kmh, lap average 233.9kmh. Holy. fk"

One does begin to wonder quite how Timo Bernhard mentally approached the hot lap. The faith in the machine, that it will stick, must be absolute.

[RemyMartin81D]

I feel sad for the memory of Bellof. Pretty obvious it could be beaten etc but to actually go out and do it seems to show a disregard for the man. Should have left his name in the record books instead now he'll largely be forgotten. Oh well.

[SonicShadow]

Would be interesting to see what a 2017 or 2018 F1 car could do with fuel flow / electric current restrictions removed and illegal aero!

[anniesdad]

SonicShadow said:

Would be interesting to see what a 2017 or 2018 F1 car could do with fuel flow / electric current restrictions removed and illegal aero!

It's over to one of the teams to do it!

Gotta be in it to win it!

[Rawwr]

CedricN said:

I wonder how long this record will stand, i guess for a really long time

I don't know. I can totally see this as being a catalyst for other manufacturers to have a go at it.

[The Hypno-Toad]

Munter said:

But. How. It. What. Time Travel?

This. ^^^^^^^^^.

The in car video is truly going to be something to see.

[Gandahar]

Why have Porsche deserted their motorsports heritage and left WEC and then decided to spend money doing record laps? Pure marketing rather than competing .

Guess what, a car on new tyres and with modern technology has beaten a 30 year old one. At least the old one did it during a race weekend, racing......

The onboard footage will be immense but it is still a case of this is a record mainly due to the fact "someone could be bothered to get the record" rather than racing. Porsche wanted to beat their old record. It is like them using a sledgehammer to crack a nut where the nut did not need to be beaten in the first case.

The Bellof lap is still the most amazing lap, even though now considered slow it would seem.

[SonicShadow]

anniesdad said:

SonicShadow said:

Would be interesting to see what a 2017 or 2018 F1 car could do with fuel flow / electric current restrictions removed and illegal aero!

It's over to one of the teams to do it!

Gotta be in it to win it!

Will be a few years yet as the FIA won't allow it - it would count as unsanctioned testing! I think they could run an older car on non current tyres though.

[Vitorio]

RemyMartin81D said:

I feel sad for the memory of Bellof. Pretty obvious it could be beaten etc but to actually go out and do it seems to show a disregard for the man. Should have left his name in the record books instead now he'll largely be forgotten. Oh well.

How about we stop any and all motorsports then? Surely we can not allow any new F1 drivers to dishonour the memory of MSC by also attaining 7 WDCs? And surely Alonso can not be allowed to devalue the Hill's triple crown, so he should be banned from the indy 500?

Have we all forgotten about Nuvolari, Hill, Hunt, Lauda, Senna, Prost, McRae etc..?

Porsche should be commended for going after records like this, isnt that what motorsports is about after all, being fastest?

SonicShadow said:

Will be a few years yet as the FIA won't allow it - it would count as unsanctioned testing! I think they could run an older car on non current tyres though.

Wouldnt a seriously modified car fall far enough out of F1 regs to be of no value for unsanctioned testing? Knowing the FIA they will be total dicks about it though...

Edited by Vitorio on Friday 29th June 10:45

[isaldiri]

PhilboSE said:

But I have to say the margin of beating the record is simply astonishing. Take 10 seconds off the record and we'd have been impressed, given how hard it has been to get close to 6:11. But to take nearly a whole minute off....

Actually no it really isn't a surprise and actually I'm wondering why it isn't even faster. A gt3 racer that does a touch under 2:20 at Spa does about 6:25 there or abouts equivalent to ring (gp + north loop corrected time). The 919 evo is over 30 seconds a lap faster at Spa than that. It was always going to obliterate the Bellof time.

[epom]

Good lord, that's almost unimaginable !! Massive credit to Porsche for this, they didn't need to but they did because they could.

[domtheone]

SaggyOstrich said:

That is madness!

To think how quick it feels when you do a 9 minute lap on the ring, this is doing it in almost half the time...insane.

Indeed

I drove around there a few years back in the 9-10 minute mark and that was pretty hairy.

5 Mins + change is incredible.

[seefarr]

Yes the car is fast but the size of this man's undercarriage to maintain these speeds at a place as uncompromising as the Nordschleife is beyond belief.

Max_Torque said:

Don Colione said:

strange VAG based trolling

obvious troll is obvious!

This. Ignore him until he goes away.