RE: Five things we've learnt about the new Jimny
Discussion
unsprung said:
otolith said:
I had one of the current model for a week in St Lucia recently. Automatic. Spent most of the time trying to push the accelerator through the bulkhead.
so... LS swap is what you're saying?Nanook said:
Most of my previous 4x4s have been Mitsubishis, so I've had the system you mention a few times.
Do Disco's not have a centre diff?
The reason I asked the question, is that with our short wheelbase 3.2 Shogun, it felt a bit twitchy or unstable, especially in the wet, if you left it in 2WD.
Even though the centre diff was open, unless you chose to lock it, it had better road manners in 4WD than it did in 2.
Discos are all permanent 4WD, so they do have a centre diff (with a lock) but no 2WD option. They (and Range Rovers and Defenders) do have the rare feature of having the diff open in low range, which is great for manoeuvering trailers on hard surfaces without making the steering all snatchy or scrubbing the tyres. I think the G-Wagen is the only other 'mainstream' 4x4 to offer that. Do Disco's not have a centre diff?
The reason I asked the question, is that with our short wheelbase 3.2 Shogun, it felt a bit twitchy or unstable, especially in the wet, if you left it in 2WD.
Even though the centre diff was open, unless you chose to lock it, it had better road manners in 4WD than it did in 2.
I've driven Mk2 Shoguns (2.5 SWB and 2.8 LWB) , a Mk4 Delica (2.8) and Mk3 and Mk4 L200s and all have felt much more stable and grippy in 4Hi than in 2Hi, the SWB Shogun and the unladen L200s especially. I have no idea what (if any) economy benefit there is in running in 2Hi when you can but I've always thought SuperSelect, while a very clever system, offered a rather pointless amount of choice.
The likes of the Series Landy, the Daihatsu Fourtrak an the original Shogun (and the Suzuki SJ, to come back to the topic!) are excellent 4x4s with a simple mechanical part-time system.
2xChevrons said:
Discos are all permanent 4WD, so they do have a centre diff (with a lock) but no 2WD option. They (and Range Rovers and Defenders) do have the rare feature of having the diff open in low range, which is great for manoeuvering trailers on hard surfaces without making the steering all snatchy or scrubbing the tyres. I think the G-Wagen is the only other 'mainstream' 4x4 to offer that
Land cruiser 80 series is another - centre diff lock engaged by a push button on the dash, axle locks by twist switch and high/low range by traditional lever. The later 100 series is setup to do the same I think but you need to buy and plug in the switch.
Jimny looks great! Trying to figure out why I need to buy one!
snowandrocks said:
2xChevrons said:
Discos are all permanent 4WD, so they do have a centre diff (with a lock) but no 2WD option. They (and Range Rovers and Defenders) do have the rare feature of having the diff open in low range, which is great for manoeuvering trailers on hard surfaces without making the steering all snatchy or scrubbing the tyres. I think the G-Wagen is the only other 'mainstream' 4x4 to offer that
Land cruiser 80 series is another - centre diff lock engaged by a push button on the dash, axle locks by twist switch and high/low range by traditional lever. The later 100 series is setup to do the same I think but you need to buy and plug in the switch.
Jimny looks great! Trying to figure out why I need to buy one!
Can anyone confirm?
I love this Jimny and I've convinced my 13yo son that one (a second hand one) would be an ace first car for him. I just hope lots of people buy them new.
100SRV said:
Why have Suzuki and Jeep managed to make this recipe (ladder chassis, beam axles) work and comply with new legislation while Land Rover have failed?
great comment (and an opinion with which I am keen to agree)there is no reason that Britain, the Great Britain, can't produce and export its own take on what my lazy mind will now refer to as "the British Jeep Wrangler" and "the British Mustang"
sorry for my shorthand; I hope everybody understands what I mean to say
oh! and I exclude from this definition the newly unveiled TVR Griffith (because it's just too damn expensive)
I'd say building a small car that's actually a serious off-roader, rather than a crossover of some kind, is still willfully different. Perhaps even more so today because they don't make Fourtraks anymore.
There's something very self-confident about Suzuki's approach to this. There seem to be almost no concessions at all to people buying the car purely for use on-road. I guess they're assuming the market's strong enough that the lifestyle buyers will stick to Renegades and Dusters, and they'll get enough sales from people who genuinely need the capability. I hope they're right, because it's certainly a refreshing attitude.
There's something very self-confident about Suzuki's approach to this. There seem to be almost no concessions at all to people buying the car purely for use on-road. I guess they're assuming the market's strong enough that the lifestyle buyers will stick to Renegades and Dusters, and they'll get enough sales from people who genuinely need the capability. I hope they're right, because it's certainly a refreshing attitude.
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