RE: Five things we've learnt about the new Jimny

RE: Five things we've learnt about the new Jimny

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ChocolateFrog

25,505 posts

174 months

Thursday 5th July 2018
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It looks to be one of the best resolved new car designs I've seen in a long time. If it costs around £14-15k then I can see these selling well.

I don't need one but I sure want one.

pwd95

8,383 posts

239 months

Thursday 5th July 2018
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My Daughter runs a Y reg, 2001 auto convertible Jimny with over 100k miles.
Not only is there no rust anywhere but all the soft top & hard top components are in perfect working order & mechanichally it uses no oil, water & the gearbox is as smooth as silk.

Seriously better built than anything I've seen or driven in my 51 yrs. yes

loafer123

15,453 posts

216 months

Thursday 5th July 2018
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100SRV said:
Why have Suzuki and Jeep managed to make this recipe (ladder chassis, beam axles) work and comply with new legislation while Land Rover have failed?

I'd buy one.
My guess is that Jim Ratcliffe is aiming for exactly this, just slightly bigger.

ukaskew

10,642 posts

222 months

Thursday 5th July 2018
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Was seriously considering a 4WD Ignis (the new one, which is a wonderfully interesting design) but didn't appreciate quite how close it would be to the cost of one of these.

Love what Suzuki are doing right now, stolen the bravery pills from the old Renault design office.

Onehp

1,617 posts

284 months

Thursday 5th July 2018
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Might be the perfect antidote to high power way too refined 2 ton+ machinery.

That said, I would still want some basic modern crash protection, I hope it does better than the Jimny...

braddo

10,522 posts

189 months

Thursday 5th July 2018
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DanielSan said:
Where’s this G Wagon nonsense coming from? It’s a modern design of the old SJ. Nothing like a bloody G Wagon.

There seems to be a lot of laziness going into some articles recently, or worse some full on Troy Queefe spec levels of bull.
Funny how subjective design is. Where I grew up there were loads of little Suzuki 4x4s so their styling is very familiar to me (whereas the G Wagens were very rare) but other than the front grill this new car makes me think immediately of the G Wagen no matter how many little styling elements Suzuki say they have included from the old models.

A great looking fun little car either way. thumbup

PBDirector

1,049 posts

131 months

Thursday 5th July 2018
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Awesome. Decision made, we’re getting one.

skyrover

12,674 posts

205 months

Thursday 5th July 2018
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Ladder chassis, live axles, proper transfer case... Land rover are you listening!!!!

unsprung

5,467 posts

125 months

Thursday 5th July 2018
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loafer123 said:
100SRV said:
Why have Suzuki and Jeep managed to make this recipe (ladder chassis, beam axles) work and comply with new legislation while Land Rover have failed?

I'd buy one.
My guess is that Jim Ratcliffe is aiming for exactly this, just slightly bigger.
they've just listed two open positions, interestingly enough
https://projektgrenadier.com/careers/

I do hope it's built to an affordable price

and exported / globally sold in great numbers




CS Garth

2,860 posts

106 months

Thursday 5th July 2018
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Handsome looking car, if they can get the price right they’ll have a huge sales success on their hands. Looking forward to seeing one in the flesh.

Tannedbaldhead

2,952 posts

133 months

Friday 6th July 2018
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Harry_523 said:
I drove a hire car one of these a couple of years ago and its the first time I've ever felt a car be so unstable that I've slowed down because of a strongish breeze. Awful things.
As someone who has worked in the construction industry and driven more than my fair share of old school 4x4s I have to agree.
It's all about focus.
It's not that proper 4x4s are bad cars. The problem is they are built for a purpose and said purpose is to make progress on tracks where ordinary cars get stuck. The more focused a 4x4 is on off road ability the more compromised it will be on road.
That's why all those butch chunky looking SUVs whos owners rave about their handling, refinement, comfort and stability on road struggle to get out of a grass car park if it rained.

Slushbox

1,484 posts

106 months

Friday 6th July 2018
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ukaskew said:
Was seriously considering a 4WD Ignis (the new one, which is a wonderfully interesting design) but didn't appreciate quite how close it would be to the cost of one of these.

Love what Suzuki are doing right now, stolen the bravery pills from the old Renault design office.
I'm driving a 2017 Baleno BoosterJet at the moment, and think it's utterly charming, even with the rear torsion bar hopping about when it gets excited.

Suzuki have a design office in Turin, hence the swoopy curves. After I bought it the new Ignis appeared, dealer says he can't get enough.

AutoExpress says new Jimny will come with Allgrip Pro and 101 HP which looks interesting:

http://www.globalsuzuki.com/allgrip/




TwigtheWonderkid

43,412 posts

151 months

Friday 6th July 2018
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Leonardo101 said:
Hope there is a soft top version as that would be my next vehicle awesome design
There isn't, and there are no plans for one.

Fire99

9,844 posts

230 months

Friday 6th July 2018
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loafer123 said:
I love it, but then I also used to love it's doppleganger when I had one...

I used to have a 4.0 XJ and the resemblance is uncanny (in a miniature kinda way).. The only caveat I'd say is that the XJ had very impressive acceleration.. 9 seconds or so 0 - 60. Giving the Jimny a bit of poke wouldn't do it any harm..

Edited by Fire99 on Friday 6th July 10:41

100SRV

2,135 posts

243 months

Friday 6th July 2018
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dunnoreally said:
I'd say building a small car that's actually a serious off-roader, rather than a crossover of some kind, is still willfully different. Perhaps even more so today because they don't make Fourtraks anymore.

There's something very self-confident about Suzuki's approach to this. There seem to be almost no concessions at all to people buying the car purely for use on-road. I guess they're assuming the market's strong enough that the lifestyle buyers will stick to Renegades and Dusters, and they'll get enough sales from people who genuinely need the capability. I hope they're right, because it's certainly a refreshing attitude.
This ties in with other observations regarding Suzuki and Jeeps willingness to serve the utility / recreational 4x4 market with simple products (I've omitted G Wagen and LandCruiser because of their size).

Jeep and now Suzuki manage to make viable 4x4s for worldwide sale while retaining beam axles, ladder chassis and a recognisable shape.
Land-Rover seriously dropped the ball here.

I can understand that the Defender was expensive to assemble so why not use the concept of "talent imitates, genius steals" and revisit the Jeep (as was the case in 1947) as the inspiration for Defender 2?

boma

174 posts

208 months

Friday 6th July 2018
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This will be everywhere around me within 6 months, and with good reason. Brilliantly capable little vehicles.

If you have extreme and tight mountain roads falling apart, severe weather and need 4 seats, they are hard to beat, especially on economy. Wrangers and Landys will break down before these, and cost multiples more to buy and run.

I only wish 2 things: there was a slightly pokier offering, and that Toyota had a bash at making something similar.

Edited by boma on Friday 6th July 22:53

Schermerhorn

4,343 posts

190 months

Saturday 7th July 2018
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Epic fun little things.

I'm a big big big fan of these.

Jimmy Recard

17,540 posts

180 months

Saturday 7th July 2018
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Fantastic. I can't wait to start seeing these out and about.

I always wanted an SJ but then they all just crumbled away

jnoiles

78 posts

157 months

Saturday 7th July 2018
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2xChevrons said:
so why lead in by saying it looks like a G-Wagen?
Er, because it reminds a lot of people of a G-wagen?

Jim the Sunderer

3,239 posts

183 months

Saturday 7th July 2018
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Five-speed manual or a four-speed auto

It's not 1982.