RE: Mercedes-AMG GLC 63 S Coupe: Driven
Discussion
spikyone said:
NJJ said:
The off-road model that is part of the C-Class that is up at £90k with options?!! How much is the equivalent GLE model?! I fear these models will become incredible passé in years to come.
Is that a polite way of saying that anyone who buys one of these might as well set fire to their money? 
I'd agree, at that money the depreciation is going to be f
king horrendous. There'll be hundreds of the fugly things sitting on dealers' forecourts with ever-increasing discounts at 3 years old when the finance deals end, but surely no right-minded person would actually buy a new one outright.Mike335i said:
Everything that I loathe about modern cars rolled into one package.
I know this thing could generate tons of grip and go very quickly, but are they actually any fun to drive? I can't see there being any feedback from anything other than being jarred by the suspension. I guess the gearbox shuffles away as unnoticed as possible in background (it would have to with that many ratios). So is this more of a cruiser? In which case, would it be better with a smaller engine and much softer set up?
Far to compromised across the board to make any real sense and I think the article hits the nail on the head: if you are after a 'statement piece' and not bothered about the downsides, then this is the car for you.
Cannot get beyond the horrible screen stuck on and the look of the thing either.
Perfectly put sir!I know this thing could generate tons of grip and go very quickly, but are they actually any fun to drive? I can't see there being any feedback from anything other than being jarred by the suspension. I guess the gearbox shuffles away as unnoticed as possible in background (it would have to with that many ratios). So is this more of a cruiser? In which case, would it be better with a smaller engine and much softer set up?
Far to compromised across the board to make any real sense and I think the article hits the nail on the head: if you are after a 'statement piece' and not bothered about the downsides, then this is the car for you.
Cannot get beyond the horrible screen stuck on and the look of the thing either.
As I'm reading the details about this obscenity, the thought crosses my mind - wonder what it'd be like if it was 500Kg lighter, had less unforgiving suspension, a lower centre of gravity.....oh that's a C63 estate. Just found one on autotrader on an '18 reg with delivery miles for just under £50k. That's where anyone with an ounce of petrol in their veins would put their money if they had to have estate capacity with a big engine.
These will be bought by rappers, footballers, drug dealers and people heavily into getting noticed, who will doubtless have them in Gangsta-black with black wheels and windows, set off tastefully with gold blingy bits where possible. Firmly in the style-over-substance category.
Edited by Hairymonster on Saturday 7th July 08:40
nickfrog said:
Why not ? It's not your money, don't worry about it anyway.
I am pretty sure that price is the result of the balance between supply and demand so the £79k car (probably not many options actually needed) will naturally find it's price sweet spot by discounting either through finance or cash.
The SUV apologist speaks......I am pretty sure that price is the result of the balance between supply and demand so the £79k car (probably not many options actually needed) will naturally find it's price sweet spot by discounting either through finance or cash.
Face it Nick, it's still a lorry :-)
Burnham said:
Roy m said:
So have they fixed the low speed low temperature crabbing ( although I understand it's a driveshaft alignment issue that needs a redesign) and do they still make you sign a disclaimer that it's a 'characteristic' and not a fault when you collect it?
'Ah yes, that's a design characteristic that they all have Sir'. Well, at least all RHD versions.I was tempted by a GLC43 until I saw the crabbing videos. It would bug me enough that Id regret buying it, so ordered a BMW instead.
The crabbing still exist on this car, I picked my one in April glc63s coupe on the 20-inch wheels as shown and as soon as I was taking it out of the showroom I felt it with a slight turn of the wheel I thought it might be because of the tiles in the showroom but it became apparent it wasn't the floor surface.
its the first time I've noticed it on a Mercedes and it put me off it straight away especially on a car that had a list price of £85k it happened nearly every time I would turn the wheel at low speed coming out of a junction or reversing on a slight lock.
By may I had sold it, I find it strange that they haven't mentioned it in this article may be it's not all of them but if you have ordered 1 I would make sure you test drive it 1st to make sure it doesn't happen to yours.
some people I've spoken to who have 21" wheels say it doesn't happen on theirs (they look a lot better too). they seem to be losing crazy money at the moment so be careful.
hope that helps
amgmaster
Hairymonster said:
These will be bought by rappers, footballers, drug dealers and people heavily into getting noticed, who will doubtless have them in Gangsta-black with black wheels and windows, set off tastefully with gold blingy bits where possible.
These people will then be complained about by jingoistic, xenophobic and usually middle-class types who will doubtless have a chip on their shoulder about who should be allowed to enjoy life the way they'd like, set off predictably with a platitude of cliches that barely contain their sneering classism and maybe even racism where possible...
amg master said:
The crabbing still exist on this car, I picked my one in April glc63s coupe on the 20-inch wheels as shown and as soon as I was taking it out of the showroom I felt it with a slight turn of the wheel I thought it might be because of the tiles in the showroom but it became apparent it wasn't the floor surface.
its the first time I've noticed it on a Mercedes and it put me off it straight away especially on a car that had a list price of £85k it happened nearly every time I would turn the wheel at low speed coming out of a junction or reversing on a slight lock.
By may I had sold it, I find it strange that they haven't mentioned it in this article may be it's not all of them but if you have ordered 1 I would make sure you test drive it 1st to make sure it doesn't happen to yours.
some people I've spoken to who have 21" wheels say it doesn't happen on theirs (they look a lot better too). they seem to be losing crazy money at the moment so be careful.
hope that helps
amgmaster
There does seem to be a 'conspiracy of silence' about this issue. If it was a fault on a Chinese car it would be all over the media as evidence of poor design - Mercedes do it and nobody in the media says a word!its the first time I've noticed it on a Mercedes and it put me off it straight away especially on a car that had a list price of £85k it happened nearly every time I would turn the wheel at low speed coming out of a junction or reversing on a slight lock.
By may I had sold it, I find it strange that they haven't mentioned it in this article may be it's not all of them but if you have ordered 1 I would make sure you test drive it 1st to make sure it doesn't happen to yours.
some people I've spoken to who have 21" wheels say it doesn't happen on theirs (they look a lot better too). they seem to be losing crazy money at the moment so be careful.
hope that helps
amgmaster
sidesauce said:
These people will then be complained about by jingoistic, xenophobic and usually middle-class types who will doubtless have a chip on their shoulder about who should be allowed to enjoy life the way they'd like, set off predictably with a platitude of cliches that barely contain their sneering classism and maybe even racism where possible...
An interesting postulate, given that the sort of people that fall into your generous definition would very much be the sort of person that would enjoy and aspire to such a vehicle.Don't fret, your secret's safe with us
Hairymonster said:
The SUV apologist speaks......
Face it Nick, it's still a lorry :-)
The SUV troll speaks again :-). They really upset you but it would be good to know why. What's up ?Face it Nick, it's still a lorry :-)
My lorry is 1,300kgs. Call it a lorry if you like but it reinforces the perception that you enjoy internet self-harming. Each to their own though, live and let live.
nickfrog said:
The SUV troll speaks again :-). They really upset you but it would be good to know why. What's up ?
My lorry is 1,300kgs. Call it a lorry if you like but it reinforces the perception that you enjoy internet self-harming. Each to their own though, live and let live.
They don't upset me, it's more that they're such an inherent compromise to their basic function, which is to transport people from A to B. Yes, I know it's all about perceived image, security, safety, and wanting to sit high up and wanting to be seen in a big shiny eff-off SUV. It's like making running shoes, then giving them a 2-inch platform sole, i.e. make something fit for purpose. then doing what you can to make it unfit for purpose, by adding weight, complexity and a high centre of gravity., in turn making it less economical and more polluting.My lorry is 1,300kgs. Call it a lorry if you like but it reinforces the perception that you enjoy internet self-harming. Each to their own though, live and let live.
I see you've brought your own lorry into the equation once again though - must be a delusional chip-on-the-shoulder thing going on. Again.
Internet self-harming? There's a phrase I've never come across - do please elaborate.
Take care!
Hairymonster said:
must be a delusional chip-on-the-shoulder thing going. Again.
Agreed. You have a serious chip on your shoulder.But you shouldn't. There is nothing wrong with a 1.2 Panda and I am sure you chose it with function in mind like I chose my cars. I did look at one for the kids actually and it was brilliant for space / frugality.
The self harming is obvious as you get ridiculed every time you rant about SUVs particularly as they constitute the brunt of your "contributions".
Still, I am all for plurality of "opinions" so keep trolling.
Edited by nickfrog on Sunday 8th July 17:32
nickfrog said:
Hairymonster said:
must be a delusional chip-on-the-shoulder thing going. Again.
Agreed. You have a serious chip on your shoulder.But you shouldn't. There is nothing wrong with a 1.2 Panda and I am sure you chose it with function in mind like I chose my cars. I did look at one for the kids actually and it was brilliant for space / frugality.
The self harming is obvious as you get ridiculed every time you rant about SUVs particularly as they constitute the brunt of your "contributions".
Still, I am all for plurality of "opinions" so keep trolling.
Edited by nickfrog on Sunday 8th July 17:32
The Panda is an excellent car and I'll defend it to anyone. Find another car with a 2-figure trade-in value (according to autotrader) that's fun to drive. Of course I'd rather run a 911 or an F-Type, but my car choice is constrained by financial circumstances, though do have a pop about that if you like!
If I'm self-harming, then I never knew it, given that you're the person dishing it out and it's akin to that famous quote of Denis Healey's when referring to Geoffrey Howe.
Carry on though - your posts serve to highlight the vacuum between your ears, and they have a certain amusing child-like naiivity to them.
nickfrog said:
Hairymonster said:
The SUV apologist speaks......
Face it Nick, it's still a lorry :-)
The SUV troll speaks again :-). They really upset you but it would be good to know why. What's up ?Face it Nick, it's still a lorry :-)
My lorry is 1,300kgs. Call it a lorry if you like but it reinforces the perception that you enjoy internet self-harming. Each to their own though, live and let live.
sidesauce said:
And my secret is what exactly?
jingoistic, xenophobic and usually middle-class types who will doubtless have a chip on their shoulder about who should be allowed to enjoy life the way they'd like, set off predictably with a platitude of cliches that barely contain their sneering classism and maybe even racism where possible..Hairymonster said:
sidesauce said:
And my secret is what exactly?
jingoistic, xenophobic and usually middle-class types who will doubtless have a chip on their shoulder about who should be allowed to enjoy life the way they'd like, set off predictably with a platitude of cliches that barely contain their sneering classism and maybe even racism where possible..Roy m said:
amg master said:
The crabbing still exist on this car, I picked my one in April glc63s coupe on the 20-inch wheels as shown and as soon as I was taking it out of the showroom I felt it with a slight turn of the wheel I thought it might be because of the tiles in the showroom but it became apparent it wasn't the floor surface.
its the first time I've noticed it on a Mercedes and it put me off it straight away especially on a car that had a list price of £85k it happened nearly every time I would turn the wheel at low speed coming out of a junction or reversing on a slight lock.
By may I had sold it, I find it strange that they haven't mentioned it in this article may be it's not all of them but if you have ordered 1 I would make sure you test drive it 1st to make sure it doesn't happen to yours.
some people I've spoken to who have 21" wheels say it doesn't happen on theirs (they look a lot better too). they seem to be losing crazy money at the moment so be careful.
hope that helps
amgmaster
There does seem to be a 'conspiracy of silence' about this issue. If it was a fault on a Chinese car it would be all over the media as evidence of poor design - Mercedes do it and nobody in the media says a word!its the first time I've noticed it on a Mercedes and it put me off it straight away especially on a car that had a list price of £85k it happened nearly every time I would turn the wheel at low speed coming out of a junction or reversing on a slight lock.
By may I had sold it, I find it strange that they haven't mentioned it in this article may be it's not all of them but if you have ordered 1 I would make sure you test drive it 1st to make sure it doesn't happen to yours.
some people I've spoken to who have 21" wheels say it doesn't happen on theirs (they look a lot better too). they seem to be losing crazy money at the moment so be careful.
hope that helps
amgmaster
I had heard of the issue on the GLC coupe and SUV, but I did think that amg /Mercedes would have sorted the issue out by now.
I think its totally unacceptable that these cars leave the factory knowing fully well that something is not right.
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