RE: Lotus Carlton: Spotted

RE: Lotus Carlton: Spotted

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Doofus

25,826 posts

173 months

Sunday 8th July 2018
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Welshbeef said:
Doesn’t Jay Kayhave 50 odd Cars and constantly is rotating his stock to own as many petrol head Cars as possible. I’d wager he isn’t that far off those numbers ie lotto win
I don't see the connection. Are we all suposed to model our lifestyle on Jay Kay's once we win the Euromillions?

I love the LC. I am, however, perfectly ok with those who don't, and I think it would be really odd for them to buy one just because they could, even if they didn't want one.

There's loads of stuff I wouldn't buy, even if money were no object. Not having a particular desire to own a particular car would be the main reason. Jay Kay owning lots of cars would have no influence whatsoever on my choices.

Kenny Powers

2,618 posts

127 months

Sunday 8th July 2018
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I saw one of these on the M1 a couple of years ago and paid it much admiration.

With regards to “worth” - I always say that something is worth whatever someone else is willing to pay for it in order to prevent you from having it instead of them. People will pay lots of money for things they want, and lots of people have lots of money.

Dr G

15,187 posts

242 months

Sunday 8th July 2018
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Wildcat45 said:
Its a shame Lotus don't do this treatment on a modern car, creating something rather special from a run of the mill base car like an Insignia or Mondeo. I guess it's down to who owns what. Was Lotus owned by GM in the days of the Carlton?
Proton Satria? Probably worth about 47 pence today...

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Sunday 8th July 2018
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Bit like that Rover 200BRM red Lippy

s m

23,232 posts

203 months

Sunday 8th July 2018
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I would definitely have one, given enough cash to run it properly and enough garage space. Unlike most on here, the Vauxhall badge and 1990s dash would not bother me in the slightest as I'd be more interested in the dynamics, fantastic brakes and performance than caressing the dashboard or door cards.

They were almost attainable a few years back but much of he running coasts now and parts sourceability are just a bit beyond my reach

I'd want to be able to use it as intended - bombing down to the South of France, 4 up with luggage in airconditioned luxury, trickling along at 1800rpm. I'd want a few grand spare to ensure any breakages were sorted quickly and properly.

First one I ever saw used in anger was local footballer Dalian Atkinson's car - otherworldly performance in 1991 plus a manual box

Love them

Helicopter123

8,831 posts

156 months

Sunday 8th July 2018
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Dr G said:
Wildcat45 said:
Its a shame Lotus don't do this treatment on a modern car, creating something rather special from a run of the mill base car like an Insignia or Mondeo. I guess it's down to who owns what. Was Lotus owned by GM in the days of the Carlton?
Proton Satria? Probably worth about 47 pence today...
Only if absolutely mint.

tim0409

4,429 posts

159 months

Sunday 8th July 2018
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skatty said:
"Green, THE CAR YOU SEE TODAY AND PLAN TO BUY TOMORROW SOMEONE SAW YESTERDAY, £150,000"

A great example (inc. pics) of how not to sell any car, especially one at a speculative £150K!

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Sunday 8th July 2018
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tim0409 said:
skatty said:
"Green, THE CAR YOU SEE TODAY AND PLAN TO BUY TOMORROW SOMEONE SAW YESTERDAY, £150,000"

A great example (inc. pics) of how not to sell any car, especially one at a speculative £150K!
That’s the point though he doesn’t want to sell it.

It’s the same tactic when your Mrs says sell he car you reluctantly put it up for sale but only at a price you’d let it go for but guess what it’s a high number which clearly would never be achieved. Wife is happy it’s up for sale and you play ignorance as to why it’s not selling / it kicks the can down the road or into the long grass

blade7

11,311 posts

216 months

Sunday 8th July 2018
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s m said:
Unlike most on here, the Vauxhall badge and 1990s dash would not bother me in the slightest as I'd be more interested in the dynamics, fantastic brakes and performance than caressing the dashboard or door cards.
That's quite a sweeping statement. I may not want an LC but a Manta 400 would be in my lottery collection. Along with an X Pack 3.0S, X Pack RS2000, Moonstone RS500, and RS200 for starters.

Driver101

14,376 posts

121 months

Sunday 8th July 2018
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tim0409 said:
skatty said:
"Green, THE CAR YOU SEE TODAY AND PLAN TO BUY TOMORROW SOMEONE SAW YESTERDAY, £150,000"

A great example (inc. pics) of how not to sell any car, especially one at a speculative £150K!
That car has been "on sale" for years. The first time I seen the advert it was priced at £50,000 and it's gradually risen to £150,000 without actually selling.

They must have spent a fortune on Autotrader adverts whilst trying to artificially inflate values.

Lovely cars, but nobody is going to pay that kind of money.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Sunday 8th July 2018
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Driver101 said:
That car has been "on sale" for years. The first time I seen the advert it was priced at £50,000 and it's gradually risen to £150,000 without actually selling.

They must have spent a fortune on Autotrader adverts whilst trying to artificially inflate values.

Lovely cars, but nobody is going to pay that kind of money.
It’s not really for sale.

He’s some decent other cars so maybe it’s a draw into the show room see a lovely LC

s m

23,232 posts

203 months

Sunday 8th July 2018
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blade7 said:
s m said:
Unlike most on here, the Vauxhall badge and 1990s dash would not bother me in the slightest as I'd be more interested in the dynamics, fantastic brakes and performance than caressing the dashboard or door cards.
That's quite a sweeping statement. I may not want an LC but a Manta 400 would be in my lottery collection. Along with an X Pack 3.0S, X Pack RS2000, Moonstone RS500, and RS200 for starters.
Don't worry, wasn't targeted at you

There's a lot of people that would dismiss a car purely on badge or dashboard aesthetics though....if comments are to be believed.

Maybe we grew up in an era before 'soft touch' and damped opening hehe

s m

23,232 posts

203 months

Sunday 8th July 2018
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Welshbeef said:
It’s not really for sale.

He’s some decent other cars so maybe it’s a draw into the show room see a lovely LC
I suspect there's a lot of truth in that

It's got us talking about it for a start!

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Sunday 8th July 2018
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Was the 3.6 E34 M5 Ring suspension superior?

Helicopter123

8,831 posts

156 months

Sunday 8th July 2018
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s m said:
blade7 said:
s m said:
Unlike most on here, the Vauxhall badge and 1990s dash would not bother me in the slightest as I'd be more interested in the dynamics, fantastic brakes and performance than caressing the dashboard or door cards.
That's quite a sweeping statement. I may not want an LC but a Manta 400 would be in my lottery collection. Along with an X Pack 3.0S, X Pack RS2000, Moonstone RS500, and RS200 for starters.
Don't worry, wasn't targeted at you

There's a lot of people that would dismiss a car purely on badge or dashboard aesthetics though....if comments are to be believed.

Maybe we grew up in an era before 'soft touch' and damped opening hehe
I don't really buy into that, but concede that both could be a small part of the decision making process for a majority.

The problem with a really well designed and made interior, is that once you've had one, it's not easy to go back.

Jimmy Recard

17,540 posts

179 months

Sunday 8th July 2018
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Helicopter123 said:
I don't really buy into that, but concede that both could be a small part of the decision making process for a majority.

The problem with a really well designed and made interior, is that once you've had one, it's not easy to go back.
It's perfectly easy for me to go back and forth. I just don't care that much, as long as it works and is comfortable

phumy

5,674 posts

237 months

Sunday 8th July 2018
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Loads of negative crap on here from people that hardly know what the LC really is or possibly never really looked around one or even driven one. They are an amazing car on the road and very quick for their size, surprisingly. You have to own one or at least drive one to be able to "rubbish" it.

s m

23,232 posts

203 months

Sunday 8th July 2018
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Jimmy Recard said:
It's perfectly easy for me to go back and forth. I just don't care that much, as long as it works and is comfortable
Same here

As long as stuff works and falls to hand I spend more time looking through the windscreen - I'm more interested in the bits I can't see when I'm driving.....but everyone is different

Loyly

17,996 posts

159 months

Sunday 8th July 2018
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Welshbeef said:
It’s not really for sale.

He’s some decent other cars so maybe it’s a draw into the show room see a lovely LC
Like what, the VW Caravelle with 127,000 miles for £20,000? No thanks.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Sunday 8th July 2018
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Loyly said:
Welshbeef said:
It’s not really for sale.

He’s some decent other cars so maybe it’s a draw into the show room see a lovely LC
Like what, the VW Caravelle with 127,000 miles for £20,000? No thanks.
Didn’t I see
R8
DB9
DB7
To name a few

Yes also the one you mention but someone buying a camper van is a luxery especially a. Old one which is still £20k means they have money to burn so £150k lotus Carlton sir?