RE: All-new 320hp Ariel Atom 4 unveiled
Discussion
redroadster said:
On safety front anyone rolled or totalled one ?
Seen pictures on PH from fatal accidents, the Atom has basically zero design to mitigate impact.The floorpan is basically a lump of fibreglass and there is nowhere near enough triangulation. There is also no crumple zone, if anything frontal impact will cause it to buckle in the middle and this is borne out by image of crashed cars.
Talksteer said:
Seen pictures on PH from fatal accidents, the Atom has basically zero design to mitigate impact.
The floorpan is basically a lump of fibreglass and there is nowhere near enough triangulation. There is also no crumple zone, if anything frontal impact will cause it to buckle in the middle and this is borne out by image of crashed cars.
And? The floorpan is basically a lump of fibreglass and there is nowhere near enough triangulation. There is also no crumple zone, if anything frontal impact will cause it to buckle in the middle and this is borne out by image of crashed cars.
It’s probably as safer than your SV, how’s the crumple zone on that, probably not far off the TVR, with their marvellous spine chassis! Let’s face it they’re pretty s
t in an accident, so we either accept it or don’t buy one. Why are you focusing on this ridiculous safety nonsense? ‘Nowhere near enough triangulation’, for what...crashing? BAC mono, Caterham, Westfield, locust, X Bow, 3-11, since when did the first considerations become;
1. If hit a concrete wall what might happen?
2. I heard someone died in one
Perhaps I’d better check the stats on the Airbus I’m heading home on, would it be safer to take a train, but what about trains, hmmmm.
Gandahar said:
195/50 R16 and 255/40 R17 Avon ZZR
195 front and 255 back?
Gulp 2, the torque must be good.
195 front and 255 back?
Gulp 2, the torque must be good.
229 vs 310
35% increase with the potential to go way more without the heat issues of the supercharger. Betting the R version will comfortably put out 370HP with enormous torque. The main question for me will be how it drives and if they’ve retained the charm of the car. Can’t wait to try one though.
yonex said:
And?
It’s probably as safer than your SV, how’s the crumple zone on that, probably not far off the TVR, with their marvellous spine chassis! Let’s face it they’re pretty st in an accident, so we either accept it or don’t buy one. Why are you focusing on this ridiculous safety nonsense? ‘Nowhere near enough triangulation’, for what...crashing?
Bah, I ride a motorbike too... and I'm pretty sure any impact with pretty much anything and I'll end up pretty mangled. So on the basis my self-preservation is quite low, something like this worries me even less.It’s probably as safer than your SV, how’s the crumple zone on that, probably not far off the TVR, with their marvellous spine chassis! Let’s face it they’re pretty s
t in an accident, so we either accept it or don’t buy one. Why are you focusing on this ridiculous safety nonsense? ‘Nowhere near enough triangulation’, for what...crashing? Also factor in that most people don't use these as their dailys nor do much commuting. So straight away the reduced mileage drops the risk factor greatly.
In summary, yes I agree, not sure why the focus is on safety.
yonex said:
There was a rather famous woman who was killed in an S Class Mercedes, supposedly the safest car in the world at the time. That hit some concrete as well, I can't help think people are missing the point of these things!
The famous woman wasn’t wearing a seat belt. Not that it has any relevance to an Ariel Atom. Tickle said:
Is that an Atom 1 chassis? It has 111s wheels on and the Atom 1 had a rover engine.
Just wondering if the chassis evolved or is pretty much the same on the under.
It’s an earlier car, lacking the extra chassis rails. The 3.5 has a lot of small tweaks that came from the work with the V8. Just wondering if the chassis evolved or is pretty much the same on the under.
Talksteer said:
Pothole said:
The very idea that anyone would be driving insanely enough to flip one on its back is hilarious to me. For a start, have you seen how flippin' WIDE it is?
Have a look at the side of any road, there is plenty of non level stuff which can flip or roll any car regardless of the width.There is also the issue with the previous design which was should you roll on to anything like grass the roll bar will dig in.
dfen5 said:
Talksteer said:
Pothole said:
The very idea that anyone would be driving insanely enough to flip one on its back is hilarious to me. For a start, have you seen how flippin' WIDE it is?
Have a look at the side of any road, there is plenty of non level stuff which can flip or roll any car regardless of the width.There is also the issue with the previous design which was should you roll on to anything like grass the roll bar will dig in.
I've seen one semi-rolled when it was racing in the Atom Cup and I can say, although the chassis was a write-off, the driver was fine and everything was ok. It was at Oulton Park, first bend.
I happen to have one in the garage now and can confirm that they handle incredibly well, the noise of the intake is louder than the exhaust noise (I've perforated my left ear drum from it) and I'd be very interested to see how this handle's compared to mine.
I happen to have one in the garage now and can confirm that they handle incredibly well, the noise of the intake is louder than the exhaust noise (I've perforated my left ear drum from it) and I'd be very interested to see how this handle's compared to mine.
suffolk009 said:
Blimey, it's getting like Mumsnet on here.
"Oh no. You're not going out in that!"
I know... here we have one heck of a petrolhead's car... basically an engine and a seat, and the required bits to hold it together. With pretty much no other purpose or use other than to drive, and drive fast. And while other cars may not have that purpose, this doesn't even carry the baggage, "just in case"."Oh no. You're not going out in that!"
And so we have to a large degree a pretty pure example of a drivers car, a petrol heads dream... and we're complaining because it's less safe in a crash than an other random car we chose, and someone died in a crash in one once.
No one is asking you to buy it, it sure doesn't fit your criteria, but really... we would think we were at mumsnet
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