RE: Noble M500 revealed at Goodwood

[PAUL500]

Hugely competitive sector they are attempting to enter.

You use the same epoxies and process going fibreglass as you do wetlay or vacuum bagged carbon fibre, so not that much of a cost saving other than base material, which is not expensive these days.

If they want to be seen as different , they need to portray bespoke, fibreglass is perceived as cheapstake, the complete opposite of where they should be aiming.

That Lotus looks far nicer.

[kambites]

They're not going to be aiming to sell it in Porsche or even Mclaren volumes though. I'd imagine they'll be happy, at least initially, to just pick up buyers from the portion of the market which knows that the difference between CFRP and GFRP for non-structural components is largely academic.

Besides, I'm sure they wont use the words "glass fibre" in their advertising material. They'll just say "composite".

[Resolutionary]

It has the styling cues of so many cars, I can't figure out if its clever or a bit sad.

Kinda reminds me of the special cars you get in GTAV. No doubt it'll be blistering even with the V6, and I can definitely see a progression from the M600 in the 3/4 shot.

[anonymous-user]

Return of the Arash/Farbaud/Farbio/Ginetta G60 - with a few bits of other manufacturers' styling stirred into the mix.

[Herbs]

Resolutionary said:

It has the styling cues of so many cars, I can't figure out if its clever or a bit sad.

Kinda reminds me of the special cars you get in GTAV.

Bang on - that is what I was trying to say in my earlier post

[pacdes]

This is a lovely looking machine!

[Fishy Dave]

Corvette C7 headlights, looks good though. A shame their budget car couldn't have been at an M12 type price point.

[indapendentlee]

British Beef said:

Stunning with a fantastic sounding basis of design.

However price point will be key:
- Sub £100k: Lotus, Porsche, Nissan GTR and forthcoming TVR
- £100 - £150k: Aston Martin, Porsche GTs, Merc GTs and Audi R8s
- > £150k: Big boys - Mclaren, lamborgini and Ferraris (& high end Porsche & Astons)

Some amazing machinery in Noble's sights - price will determine who they go toe to toe with. Sub £100k would be awesome, but given pricing on M600 seems highly unlikely.

It's going to take a huge pair to buy over almost of any of the above (excluding maybe TVR), when you throw in the boring things like depreciation, servicing (and network), insurance etc - shame as I'm sure it'll be absolutely stunning to drive!

[F1GTRUeno]

My first thought was this:



mixed with this



Plus the rear is ugly as sin.

Yet again Noble make a probably amazing car look like it's 10 years too late and very kit-carish. I don't doubt the quality of the product but they really need a new stylist.

[Vocht]

This angle is awesome! I love it!

[Japveesix]

I like Noble a lot and think this looks fairly great. Just hope they can price it well as it's bound to ridiculously quick and probably handle well etc.

[RoverP6B]

So, GRP despite minimal cost-saving over CF, tarring it with the 'cheap kit car' brush, obviously C7 'Vette headlights, and no manual... surely the dual-clutch market will never consider this and just buy a McLaren/Ferrari/Porsche/AMG?

[EGTE]

Screw the nay-sayers; I like this a lot!

[suffolk009]

You know all those top end sports cars that charge a small fortune for carbon-fibre bodywork in the options section? Well, if you're have a sane day, keep your wits about you, and don't tick those boxes, guess what the standard bits and bobs are made of that? That's right, they're "composite" material. Meaning, almost always, GRP or glassfibre.

[suffolk009]

RoverP6B said:

So, GRP despite minimal cost-saving over CF, tarring it with the 'cheap kit car' brush, obviously C7 'Vette headlights, and no manual... surely the dual-clutch market will never consider this and just buy a McLaren/Ferrari/Porsche/AMG?

I expect that if the stigma of having a GRP bodied car over a CF one is all that's stopping you, or apparently many other posters on here, from ordering one - I'm sure you could just ask. I expect they'll build you a naked carbon car. At a price.

[Frimley111R]

Its a tough market true, but then they are not trying to sell big volumes, just small ones. Very small ones. Its nice to have a car that isn't one of a few thousand out there. That exclusivity is one of its USPs.

[Clockwork Cupcake]

It does seem to be a case of "spot the car" in its design. The rear looks very Koenigsegsgesggegg, in addition to the aforementioned Chiron and Corvette influences.

[anonymous-user]

suffolk009 said:

You know all those top end sports cars that charge a small fortune for carbon-fibre bodywork in the options section? That's right, they're "composite" material. Meaning, almost always, GRP or glassfibre.

Oh dear, my C7 Corvette has C7 Corvette headlamps and although some of the bodywork is carbon fibre the rest of it is composite. Mind you, it does have a substantial V8 engine, and you can can buy a nice new C7 in UK with a manual gearbox from just £64,000

New mid-engine version of Corvette is rumoured to be due in 2019. "Our spy photographers recently caught three mid-engine Corvette prototypes testing in southwest Michigan alongside a Porsche 911 Turbo S. Chevy is trying to make a true everyday supercar." https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/a29781/mid-e...

[unsprung]

love it

I hope Noble produce / sell / export plenty

I've been arguing for this sort of thing across the board in Blighty: more affordable spec, yet still about performance

now if the new TVR can apply this principle to a second, and more accessible, version of the Griffith...

[Targarama]

Looks interesting and I wish them luck. However with a new model TVR and the likes of McLaren offering excellent alternatives to the 'old school' supercar companies then I wonder how sales will go. Needs to be sub £100k IMO, otherwise there is a raft of warrantied nearly-new near-super cars to choose from.