RE: Shed of the Week: Audi 100 Avant
Discussion
Pericoloso said:
s m said:
DrSteveBrule said:
I would love the 80 Sport saloon of this vintage but they aren't going to be had for shed money.
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If you mean B3/B4 shape, 94 MY one for sale in Peterborough but it's an auto.
£1k
Pericoloso said:
s m said:
DrSteveBrule said:
I would love the 80 Sport saloon of this vintage but they aren't going to be had for shed money.
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If you mean B3/B4 shape, 94 MY one for sale in Peterborough but it's an auto.
£1k
I thought it was a decade after nearly
grumpy52 said:
I looked at loads of these about 17 years ago .
Wife , kid , dog , days out and all that and I wanted an estate but not the offerings from ford and vauxhall.
All had been neglected , as is the same these days , people buy premium cars but don't bother to maintain them then suddenly a big bill looms and they try to flog them on .
Most needed clutches , had cambelt failures or headgasket s , I ended up with a volvo 740 turbo .
The second hand Audi 100s tended to be immaculate pampered machines that people kept for years and years or neglected dogs that constantly changed hands .
Are the 10 valve 5 cylinders non-interference? Wife , kid , dog , days out and all that and I wanted an estate but not the offerings from ford and vauxhall.
All had been neglected , as is the same these days , people buy premium cars but don't bother to maintain them then suddenly a big bill looms and they try to flog them on .
Most needed clutches , had cambelt failures or headgasket s , I ended up with a volvo 740 turbo .
The second hand Audi 100s tended to be immaculate pampered machines that people kept for years and years or neglected dogs that constantly changed hands .
Cherished long term ownership doesn't mean there isn't complicated and expensive problems.
Well built and fun to tinker with but sourcing parts from breakers could be difficult.
The earlier ones are cooler due to the larger rear spoiler:
J4CKO said:
I like Audis but modern ones and the way they have gone have lost that genteel edge, look at the front of this, looks a bit friendlier and a lot less aggressive that current ones that look like the Predators mask and want to kill you, all “Get out of my f
king way peasant” where this is “Excuse me, may I pass please”
This.king way peasant” where this is “Excuse me, may I pass please” The design of grilles on many cars today (e.g. Audi, Lexus et al) - OMG...
I think some people on here are understating the impact of this car and it's styling when it was launched in 1982: it's slick looks, efficiency, build quality and comfort (in terms of low noise and cruising ability) destroyed the rest of the executive class. The Rover SD1 and Citroen CX still looked cool, but were familiar at the time!
Compare the 100 with its flush glazing to the following:
My dad had one exactly like that as a company car back in the 80s - will have to see if he still remembers the reg.
Used to do eurocamp holidays in the south of france, parents would flip the wider back seat down, pile up half the luggage on the back seat and my brother and I would sleep on the other side while they drove through the night. Simpler (and less safety-conscious) times
Used to do eurocamp holidays in the south of france, parents would flip the wider back seat down, pile up half the luggage on the back seat and my brother and I would sleep on the other side while they drove through the night. Simpler (and less safety-conscious) times
TWPC said:
This.
The design of grilles on many cars today (e.g. Audi, Lexus et al) - OMG...
I think some people on here are understating the impact of this car and it's styling when it was launched in 1982: it's slick looks, efficiency, build quality and comfort (in terms of low noise and cruising ability) destroyed the rest of the executive class. The Rover SD1 and Citroen CX still looked cool, but were familiar at the time!
Compare the 100 with its flush glazing to the following:
And all of these above except for the BM felt and drove like horsesThe design of grilles on many cars today (e.g. Audi, Lexus et al) - OMG...
I think some people on here are understating the impact of this car and it's styling when it was launched in 1982: it's slick looks, efficiency, build quality and comfort (in terms of low noise and cruising ability) destroyed the rest of the executive class. The Rover SD1 and Citroen CX still looked cool, but were familiar at the time!
Compare the 100 with its flush glazing to the following:
t compared to the AudiSteamer said:
Turbobanana said:
Younger viewers may not remember the time when there wasn't and Audi, BMW or Mercedes on every corner - these used to be a rare, desirable car and were judged more on engineering prowess than equipment levels.
THIS!I remember when a chap up the road got a brand new BMW 5 series and we all rode up there on our BMXs to look at it.. he banged on the window of his house and told us to scram.
Back in the days when you had to be senior management, or minted to drive anything German and prestige.. not just renting and pretending
They did an advert in the 1990s, which was a piss-take of a yuppie (clearly implied BMW-driving, back then) total bellend taking a test-drive (might have been an 80/90 or early A4) and not getting the car at all. Sales increased, but in a way I believe the ad actually backfired...
TWPC said:
J4CKO said:
I like Audis but modern ones and the way they have gone have lost that genteel edge, look at the front of this, looks a bit friendlier and a lot less aggressive that current ones that look like the Predators mask and want to kill you, all “Get out of my fking way peasant” where this is “Excuse me, may I pass please”
This.king way peasant” where this is “Excuse me, may I pass please” The design of grilles on many cars today (e.g. Audi, Lexus et al) - OMG...
I think some people on here are understating the impact of this car and it's styling when it was launched in 1982: it's slick looks, efficiency, build quality and comfort (in terms of low noise and cruising ability) destroyed the rest of the executive class. The Rover SD1 and Citroen CX still looked cool, but were familiar at the time!
Subsequent cars copied the flush glass. I think the Lexus LS400 used the same method of achieving flush glass which must help with the quietness.
A bargeist was selling a lovely condition and looking W124 about 18 months ago, but it was only a four cylinder and I found a CAR Magazine Giant test, possibly titled 'Five Alive', that had a four cylinder W124 and the the newish E34 five series and the Audi 100. After reading that I couldn't consider a 4 cylinder W124.
I really like Audi design from this period, though I prefer the C4 that came next and the C5 A6 Avant and the A8 D2. A C3 or C4 is more likely to get my attention than a current Audi.
Edited by carinaman on Friday 13th July 12:01
daytona111r said:
I used to love this design when I was a kid, especially the Avant, it looked so slick. Not a fan of current Audis.
It looked so very clean and very modern - hence the dismissal of the Sierra as a 'Jellymould'.Though Ital Design, it clearly took inspiration from the NSU Ro80 that it was meant to replace.
I do wonder what the proposed wankel-engined versions would have been like.
I had a 1989 2.3 one. Back then it was a quirky car to own like a SAAB or a big Citroen.
Absolutely loved the 5 cylinder engine, lovely and smooth and torquey when cruising but gave off a real growl when you hammered it.
I was commuting a daily 180 mile round trip at the time and it was still an enjoyable way to munch the miles.
Absolutely loved the 5 cylinder engine, lovely and smooth and torquey when cruising but gave off a real growl when you hammered it.
I was commuting a daily 180 mile round trip at the time and it was still an enjoyable way to munch the miles.
Black S2K said:
Steamer said:
Turbobanana said:
Younger viewers may not remember the time when there wasn't and Audi, BMW or Mercedes on every corner - these used to be a rare, desirable car and were judged more on engineering prowess than equipment levels.
THIS!I remember when a chap up the road got a brand new BMW 5 series and we all rode up there on our BMXs to look at it.. he banged on the window of his house and told us to scram.
Back in the days when you had to be senior management, or minted to drive anything German and prestige.. not just renting and pretending
They did an advert in the 1990s, which was a piss-take of a yuppie (clearly implied BMW-driving, back then) total bellend taking a test-drive (might have been an 80/90 or early A4) and not getting the car at all. Sales increased, but in a way I believe the ad actually backfired...
They took a stereotypical (at the time) bloke who we all knew, nailed on was meant to drive a BMW, a bit of a brash, coscksure type, his head had been turned by Audis new range, they previously hadnt been on his radar, he tried one but it really his style.
Well, he eventually changed his mind, as did many others. I wouldn't say it backfired as they sell way, way more cars than they could have ever dreamt of back then, but that slightly quirky, aloof but cool thing has got lost a bit in favour of a more direct approach, with front end styling that resembles a really angry space Gargoyle or a shiny version of those predatory fish that live in the depths of the Marianas trench in some cases.
I dont find Audi drivers that bad, I think the worst ones are the ones that get one a few years old and feel like they can now live up to the stereotype.
Black S2K said:
They did an advert in the 1990s, which was a piss-take of a yuppie (clearly implied BMW-driving, back then) total bellend taking a test-drive (might have been an 80/90 or early A4) and not getting the car at all. Sales increased, but in a way I believe the ad actually backfired...
"Tell Charles I'm on my way..."I also recall an advert from the mid to late 80s; the set-up was a yacht had an Audi 80 on deck and it was accidentally dropped into the sea. The selling point was the anti-rust properties. I distinctly remember it as there was an advert in the paper to get people to watch the TV ad, that being the first time a younger me had ever seen an advert-for-an-advert. I'll see if I can find it or whether it was some fever-dream I had....
Found it!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sn0IYC9yCzg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sn0IYC9yCzg
Edited by DrSteveBrule on Friday 13th July 12:28
People go on about the way these C3's were built, but you so rarely see one nowadays. C2's all seem to be SA imports, and C1's are like hens teeth.
I found these 'tatty' when they were a relatively common sight though, mostly as they were used as workhorses. A colleague had one, and when he replaced it with the C4, which was leaps & bounds ahead of the C3 in terms of comfort, refinement & build quality. A lawyer in my home town had a C3, but the first type (not the facelift that this SOTW is), and the passing schoolkids discovered that hitting it in a certain place on the rear quarter panel made the alarm go off. He had the car for 5 years, and the paint was worn through where the kids used to hit it every day in the same place.
I myself had a C4 for a year or so, albeit the A6 with the 2.6 engine. Solid, but bipolar climate control (either very hot or very cold, no middle ground). Traded that for a C5. A stunning car, but I wish I knew then about OBD2 and VagCom like I do now. It hemorrhaged money every time it went near the dealer for faults, which it did monthly.
I found these 'tatty' when they were a relatively common sight though, mostly as they were used as workhorses. A colleague had one, and when he replaced it with the C4, which was leaps & bounds ahead of the C3 in terms of comfort, refinement & build quality. A lawyer in my home town had a C3, but the first type (not the facelift that this SOTW is), and the passing schoolkids discovered that hitting it in a certain place on the rear quarter panel made the alarm go off. He had the car for 5 years, and the paint was worn through where the kids used to hit it every day in the same place.
I myself had a C4 for a year or so, albeit the A6 with the 2.6 engine. Solid, but bipolar climate control (either very hot or very cold, no middle ground). Traded that for a C5. A stunning car, but I wish I knew then about OBD2 and VagCom like I do now. It hemorrhaged money every time it went near the dealer for faults, which it did monthly.
And here's the Charles one...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIQ-283wKgg
Now commonly driven by exactly the type of chap they used to poke fun at.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIQ-283wKgg
Now commonly driven by exactly the type of chap they used to poke fun at.
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