RE: Ford Fiesta ST: UK Drive

RE: Ford Fiesta ST: UK Drive

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blade7

11,311 posts

217 months

Friday 13th July 2018
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Onehp said:
Flow through those larger 12V is probably the same as through the smaller 16V and fairly irrelevant to boost pressure. Also 0,5l displacement is still considered optimal in the automotive world.

Seems to me your sceptic prediction is a much wilder guess than my (semi-professional I might add) guess. But for the sake of argument, if boost pressure were 0,3bar higher, what will you do with that information?? coffee
Seems to me you're making it up as you go along. How heavy are each of those 12 valves and 3 pistons in comparison? Cut down on the coffee a bit maybe?

Onehp

1,617 posts

284 months

Friday 13th July 2018
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blade7 said:
Onehp said:
Flow through those larger 12V is probably the same as through the smaller 16V and fairly irrelevant to boost pressure. Also 0,5l displacement is still considered optimal in the automotive world.

Seems to me your sceptic prediction is a much wilder guess than my (semi-professional I might add) guess. But for the sake of argument, if boost pressure were 0,3bar higher, what will you do with that information?? coffee
Seems to me you're making it up as you go along. How heavy are each of those 12 valves and 3 pistons in comparison? Cut down on the coffee a bit maybe?
Weight isn't a factor in making power at 5000ish rpm, it's not a high revving NA....

You lot just assume that because it is three instead of 4 cylinders, it's somehow magically technologically inferior, while progress dictates the opposite.

Just trying to be helpful teacher, won't make that mistake again... boxedin

Oh, the coffee is figurative, don't drink the stuff.

stargazer30

1,601 posts

167 months

Friday 13th July 2018
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I've got a mk7 stage 2 fiesta. The mk8 appeals due to the better interior, better ride (hopefully?) and the 3 cylinder. Wifey's mini is a 1.5 3 banger and it sounds very nice. Having said the the mk7 fiesta with its symposer doesn't sound too bad either. Apparently even though its a 3 cyl its actually a heavier engine than the mk7s! Car is a bit heavier too.

I hate that rear end though and I am waiting to see how reliable this new engine is and if mountune will fettle it any.

My ST is a 2013 and they've all (64 plate and older) been recalled to Ford to have the cooling system replaced. Same issue as the old ecoboosts, those stupid thin plastic coolant pipes break, instant loss of coolant leading to head overheating and cracking, high pressure oil leak as a result and it goes up in flames.

amoeba

200 posts

167 months

Friday 13th July 2018
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Isn't the 3-cylinder Ford engine extremely unreliable? And thats the 150bhp version - 200bhp = even less reliable?

cerb4.5lee

30,852 posts

181 months

Friday 13th July 2018
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I'd love a go in one of these and I always liked the previous generation ST. I've never driven a car with a 3 pot engine but most say really good things about them.

Jonny_gti

291 posts

81 months

Friday 13th July 2018
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Quite like the idea of a fruity little boosted 3cly however hard act to follow with the last fiesta st it was a cracker.

J4CKO

41,679 posts

201 months

Friday 13th July 2018
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amoeba said:
Isn't the 3-cylinder Ford engine extremely unreliable? And thats the 150bhp version - 200bhp = even less reliable?
Its been around from 2012, there were some failed ot the coolant pipe issue as a previous poster mentioned but there are hundreds of thousands of them out there and they dont all seem to be failing.

There is nothing wrong with having three cylinders in terms of reliability, in fact its one piston, once bore, four valves and a main bearing less complicated !

200 bhp from 1.5 litres is not a huge deal these days, Peugeot do 260 bhp from 1.6.


blade7

11,311 posts

217 months

Friday 13th July 2018
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J4CKO said:
once bore
Only once?

HannsG

3,047 posts

135 months

Friday 13th July 2018
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The question no one wants to hear.

Lease deals?

Colonel D

628 posts

73 months

Friday 13th July 2018
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second last picture makes it look like a Galaxy from behind

morgs_

1,663 posts

188 months

Friday 13th July 2018
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For those asking about the 17" wheels, here you are on an ST-2. Article is a bit misleading, in that the 18"s are an option on the ST-2, but standard on the ST-3.


TaylotS2K

1,964 posts

208 months

Friday 13th July 2018
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Johnnytheboy said:
If you took the badges off I'd think it was a Kia/Hyundai.
That's not such a bad thing these days. They make some better looking cars than Ford do.

nickfrog

21,278 posts

218 months

Friday 13th July 2018
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Onehp said:
Just trying to be helpful teacher, won't make that mistake again... boxedin
Please do, I find your contributions really insightful, unlike some seriously weird and ungrateful trolls on PH.laugh

blade7

11,311 posts

217 months

Friday 13th July 2018
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nickfrog said:
Onehp said:
Just trying to be helpful teacher, won't make that mistake again... boxedin
Please do, I find your contributions really insightful, unlike some seriously weird and ungrateful trolls on PH.laugh

Klippie

3,187 posts

146 months

Friday 13th July 2018
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I like the look of the ST and it being available as a 3 door is a major plus point these days as most of the cars are now 4 door only.

Can’t wait to have a go in one....when will they be in the showrooms.

kharma45

217 posts

74 months

Friday 13th July 2018
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Limpet said:
I can't think of anything else this side of £30k that interests me more than one of these at the moment. Cracking little car. Maybe not quite as good looking as the mk7, but that's more than offset in my opinion by the vastly improved interior. If the engine has anything like as much character, and sounds anything like as good as the 140 1.0 in my mate's ST Line, it will be a cracker.
i30N or this is what I’m thinking on next year. I’ll see what depreciates more come March or so.

nickfrog

21,278 posts

218 months

Friday 13th July 2018
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blade7 said:
nickfrog said:
Onehp said:
Just trying to be helpful teacher, won't make that mistake again... boxedin
Please do, I find your contributions really insightful, unlike some seriously weird and ungrateful trolls on PH.laugh
That's exactly what I meant lol. Seriously weird. Even by PH standards.

IanJ9375

1,469 posts

217 months

Friday 13th July 2018
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Klippie said:
I like the look of the ST and it being available as a 3 door is a major plus point these days as most of the cars are now 4 door only.

Can’t wait to have a go in one....when will they be in the showrooms.
I'd expect it will be the last version available with 3dr even as an option.

I don't mind the looks at all, I suspect a lot of the hatred is from current or previous Fiesta ST owners - which happens whenever a newer model arrives, then in 12-24months they seem to come round to it and buy one lol

blade7

11,311 posts

217 months

Friday 13th July 2018
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nickfrog said:
That's exactly what I meant lol. Seriously weird. Even by PH standards.
Your posts on this thread are totally unrelated to the thread title, or car being discussed . And you can't work out that you're the troll.rolleyes

FN2TypeR

7,091 posts

94 months

Friday 13th July 2018
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Klippie said:
I like the look of the ST and it being available as a 3 door is a major plus point these days as most of the cars are now 4 door only.

Can’t wait to have a go in one....when will they be in the showrooms.
They already are, I drove past the Ford dealer in Peterhead last week and they had one in.