RE: Ford Mondeo ST220: Spotted
Discussion
I had one of these and loved it. Longest time I've ever owned a car, and in the end, I only changed because I crashed it! Given the choice, I'd have a blue estate with white seats, but the red seats were lovely too.
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SidewaysSi said:
What does this offer over an E36 328 or E46 330? Very little except a hatch and a nice blue colour.
The appeal of not looking like a 316i? The ability to find a good one with under 150k on the clock at a sensible price? From experience, a Mondeo is a finer car to drive than an E46 3 Series. If you want the badge then I see the appeal of the BMW, although even then, is a 15-20 year old BMW going to give you many bragging rights? I'd say the Mondeo has pretty much everything over a 3 Series. Edited by aaron_2000 on Monday 23 July 20:49
aaron_2000 said:
SidewaysSi said:
What does this offer over an E36 328 or E46 330? Very little except a hatch and a nice blue colour.
The appeal of not looking like a 316i? The ability to find a good one with under 150k on the clock at a sensible price? From experience, a Mondeo is a finer car to drive than an E46 3 Series. If you want the badge then I see the appeal of the BMW, although even then, is a 15-20 year old BMW going to give you many bragging rights? I'd say the Mondeo has pretty much everything over a 3 Series. Edited by aaron_2000 on Monday 23 July 20:49
Mk3 Mondeo was better to drive and Mk4 Mondeo more pleasant to ride in too.
MC Bodge said:
aaron_2000 said:
SidewaysSi said:
What does this offer over an E36 328 or E46 330? Very little except a hatch and a nice blue colour.
The appeal of not looking like a 316i? The ability to find a good one with under 150k on the clock at a sensible price? From experience, a Mondeo is a finer car to drive than an E46 3 Series. If you want the badge then I see the appeal of the BMW, although even then, is a 15-20 year old BMW going to give you many bragging rights? I'd say the Mondeo has pretty much everything over a 3 Series. That was the boggo Mondeo as well, the ST220 was *much* better.
MC Bodge said:
Mk3 Mondeo was better to drive and Mk4 Mondeo more pleasant to ride in too.
While it would never be top of my list for "cars I'd want to take on a fun drive", equally the Mk4 2.5T is still fun *to* drive and I never hit a twisty road thinking "I wish I wasn't in this thing". I sometimes wish the original owner had fitted the sports suspension and/or the electronically controlled variable dampers...but then I'd never get it up the school drive to pick the kids up as it already touches unless I'm careful (sports suspension is 30mm lower).On a related note it seems someones filmed (a Mk4 2.5T) round the Nurburgring as well as some track days....it's not slow (although from the sound of the later ones it's also very much not stock either).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgeSAUH1HPg
Gribs said:
Given long enough and kept in good condition it will definitely appreciate. Even s
t old Fords (which this isn't) seem to reach high values about 30 years from release.
The test is who has the patience and the space to hang on to a leggy Mondeo for 15 more years, and hardly use it! t old Fords (which this isn't) seem to reach high values about 30 years from release.Edited by Jag_NE on Tuesday 24th July 00:05
Jag_NE said:
Gribs said:
Given long enough and kept in good condition it will definitely appreciate. Even st old Fords (which this isn't) seem to reach high values about 30 years from release.
The test is who has the patience and the space to hang on to a leggy Mondeo for 15 more years, and hardly use it! t old Fords (which this isn't) seem to reach high values about 30 years from release.Edited by Jag_NE on Tuesday 24th July 00:05
aaron_2000 said:
SidewaysSi said:
What does this offer over an E36 328 or E46 330? Very little except a hatch and a nice blue colour.
The appeal of not looking like a 316i? The ability to find a good one with under 150k on the clock at a sensible price? From experience, a Mondeo is a finer car to drive than an E46 3 Series. If you want the badge then I see the appeal of the BMW, although even then, is a 15-20 year old BMW going to give you many bragging rights? I'd say the Mondeo has pretty much everything over a 3 Series. Edited by aaron_2000 on Monday 23 July 20:49
Bragging rights and badge may impact your choice of car but they don't mine.
I do think the boot space may come in handy though, particularly when going to the garden centre and picking up those tall plants.
Edited by SidewaysSi on Tuesday 24th July 06:35
Edited by SidewaysSi on Tuesday 24th July 06:51
I had an ST TDCi for 5 years which was a decent car. Great for doing the 20,000 miles I was doing a year and it had I think 190bhp with Focus ST calipers.
I could have one of these, 58,000 miles for £2000 but decided against us due to petrol costs and the extra £1000 insurance it would have been at the time ( 21 year old living in Liverpool )
The fella ended up selling it for £1500 as he just wanted it sold with minimal hassle. I would have took it off him for that much.
Recaro heated leather seats. Cruise control. Xenons. I'd have another tomorrow if It was brand new from Ford. Once they get to 100,000 miles things start needed replacing from there onwards.
I could have one of these, 58,000 miles for £2000 but decided against us due to petrol costs and the extra £1000 insurance it would have been at the time ( 21 year old living in Liverpool )
The fella ended up selling it for £1500 as he just wanted it sold with minimal hassle. I would have took it off him for that much.
Recaro heated leather seats. Cruise control. Xenons. I'd have another tomorrow if It was brand new from Ford. Once they get to 100,000 miles things start needed replacing from there onwards.
When I decided I wanted to change my ST220 I went and took out an E46 330i expecting to buy it. The 220 was so much nicer to drive I went and tested another 330 thinking there must have been something wrong with the first. To the person who mentioned understeer, all cars will understeer at a point and the point the nose would run wide in the 220 was pretty amazing for a FWD car of it's weight. I always prefer RWD but a very good FWD car can be better than a mediocre RWD one. That's why I never bought the 330, I know Clarksons reviews are to be taken with a pinch of salt but the phrase "every time I drive one of these I wonder why we buy anything else" speaks volumes. I only sold mine as it was getting long in the tooth and I wanted something faster. I've a Mk4 Mondeo now as a daily and would love my ST back. Even the basic Mk3 was a more fun chassis than the Mk4 which, as a drivers car, was a disappointing replacement.
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