What is the best way of dealing with middle-lane hoggers?
Discussion
MrGTI6 said:
V88Dicky said:
samwhunt said:
Aggressively switch to the fast lane, overtake, pull back into the slow lane, slow down so that they overtake you. Repeat.
This^^^ (preferably without the aggression though)It's called 'orbiting', and my record is nine full orbits, on an empty M74 late at night.
Subject car was an beaten up Peugeot 307SW if I'm not mistaken.
Give it a try, it certainly livens up a dull journey. I could have done more, but he eventually realised what I was doing and moved to L1. Or he woke up.....
Its even more annoying on the 4 lane sections when they are sat in 3 of 4.
I was on the m1 sat afternoon the worst was a guy doing 50 in lane 3 with no other traffic in lane 1 or 2.
Surprisingly rather than bmw.s or audis the worst were volvos.
I think the best solution is 6 month disqual extended retest and car your car sold
I was on the m1 sat afternoon the worst was a guy doing 50 in lane 3 with no other traffic in lane 1 or 2.
Surprisingly rather than bmw.s or audis the worst were volvos.
I think the best solution is 6 month disqual extended retest and car your car sold
MrGTI6 said:
Aside from ramming them onto the hard shoulder, what is the best way of dealing with these brain-dead idiots?
For example, you are in lane one gaining on a moron in lane two who is overtaking thin air. Do you remain in lane one and pass them? Or move from lane one to lane three, and back to lane one once past?
The first option is much easier, but if they move across into your lane and collide with you as you are passing, who is at fault from a legal perspective?
To be honest, I used to do all sorts:For example, you are in lane one gaining on a moron in lane two who is overtaking thin air. Do you remain in lane one and pass them? Or move from lane one to lane three, and back to lane one once past?
The first option is much easier, but if they move across into your lane and collide with you as you are passing, who is at fault from a legal perspective?
- Undertaking.
- Going from lane 1 to 3, overtaking, then cutting infront of them back from lane 3 to 1.
- Sticking behind them in lane 2 and getting closer and closer, eventually flashing my lights if they don't move.
Then I just realised, why do I even bother. You can't control how others drive, I used to drive 100 miles a day and do a full days office work too and to have small things like this annoy me was just too tiring. I now take the other perspective, whilst I am a very experienced motorway driver, others may be there the first time and nervous to go into lane 1. I don't blame them for it, for example you have joining traffic on lane 1 which means they have to constantly change back to lane 2 or judge making a good gap, this may prove tricky for them if they are still very new to motorway driving.
These things can annoy me but I learn to just ignore them and get on with my day, there are always two sides to a story and me getting angry over it is not going to help the situation, keeping my driving legal regardless of what they choose to do.
I can't really think of times when I've been held up by lane blockers but that's probably because I drive a BM.
The sudden appearance of the BM grille and badging in somebody's mirrors, if they haven't already seen me catching them up quickly, just seems to get the message across that they're dealing with a high performance car being piloted quickly by an experienced driver, so they get out of the way really quickly.
If I didn't have the BM I would just use full headlights and horn to attract their attention.
It's all about the image created by the car you drive. I've recently gone back to a proper full time rwd BM and other drivers just know that somebody driving a machine like that is not your ordinary motorist but a successful dynamic person who hasn't got time to hang around like most other people. It isn't their fault because not everybody can be successful but they generally know when they're beaten and it's time to get out of the way.
About the only car I've ever had to get out of the way of had blue flashing lights on and it was going even quicker than me but it was a BM, one of the big 5 series and it did show me how impressive a well driven BM looks when it comes up quickly behind you.
The sudden appearance of the BM grille and badging in somebody's mirrors, if they haven't already seen me catching them up quickly, just seems to get the message across that they're dealing with a high performance car being piloted quickly by an experienced driver, so they get out of the way really quickly.
If I didn't have the BM I would just use full headlights and horn to attract their attention.
It's all about the image created by the car you drive. I've recently gone back to a proper full time rwd BM and other drivers just know that somebody driving a machine like that is not your ordinary motorist but a successful dynamic person who hasn't got time to hang around like most other people. It isn't their fault because not everybody can be successful but they generally know when they're beaten and it's time to get out of the way.
About the only car I've ever had to get out of the way of had blue flashing lights on and it was going even quicker than me but it was a BM, one of the big 5 series and it did show me how impressive a well driven BM looks when it comes up quickly behind you.
Usually stick to Lane 1 and pass.. Technically I'm not undertaking as my lane is simply travelling faster than the adjacent one.
I don't do it in an aggressive manner either, and half the time the MLM will drop back over to Lane 1.
Going from 1-->2-->3-->2-->1 often ends up with me sat behind the MLM waiting for a gap in Lane 3 to pull into, which means adjusting my speed once to slow down, a second time to keep pace with Lane 3 and then thirdly back down to my target cruising speed. And then repeat a few seconds later for the next MLM.
Also, I try to avoid flashing people out of the way, as this usually just results in said car speeding up where there is room for them to move over to L2 or even L1, and then slowing down again when they are actually overtaking a queue of cars - resulting in not ever getting ahead of said moron. Although I did have to resort to flashing a car out of L2 on a DC. They moved over to let me pass, then moved straight back in to L2 again (at the same slow pace) holding up more cars behind and then began to flash me for not moving over in to L1 as soon as I passed them LOL
I don't do it in an aggressive manner either, and half the time the MLM will drop back over to Lane 1.
Going from 1-->2-->3-->2-->1 often ends up with me sat behind the MLM waiting for a gap in Lane 3 to pull into, which means adjusting my speed once to slow down, a second time to keep pace with Lane 3 and then thirdly back down to my target cruising speed. And then repeat a few seconds later for the next MLM.
Also, I try to avoid flashing people out of the way, as this usually just results in said car speeding up where there is room for them to move over to L2 or even L1, and then slowing down again when they are actually overtaking a queue of cars - resulting in not ever getting ahead of said moron. Although I did have to resort to flashing a car out of L2 on a DC. They moved over to let me pass, then moved straight back in to L2 again (at the same slow pace) holding up more cars behind and then began to flash me for not moving over in to L1 as soon as I passed them LOL
Edited by tejr on Monday 23 July 17:42
TarpaTow said:
I can't really think of times when I've been held up by lane blockers but that's probably because I drive a BM.
The sudden appearance of the BM grille and badging in somebody's mirrors, if they haven't already seen me catching them up quickly, just seems to get the message across that they're dealing with a high performance car being piloted quickly by an experienced driver, so they get out of the way really quickly.
If I didn't have the BM I would just use full headlights and horn to attract their attention.
It's all about the image created by the car you drive. I've recently gone back to a proper full time rwd BM and other drivers just know that somebody driving a machine like that is not your ordinary motorist but a successful dynamic person who hasn't got time to hang around like most other people. It isn't their fault because not everybody can be successful but they generally know when they're beaten and it's time to get out of the way.
About the only car I've ever had to get out of the way of had blue flashing lights on and it was going even quicker than me but it was a BM, one of the big 5 series and it did show me how impressive a well driven BM looks when it comes up quickly behind you.
Getting less funny than it used to be.The sudden appearance of the BM grille and badging in somebody's mirrors, if they haven't already seen me catching them up quickly, just seems to get the message across that they're dealing with a high performance car being piloted quickly by an experienced driver, so they get out of the way really quickly.
If I didn't have the BM I would just use full headlights and horn to attract their attention.
It's all about the image created by the car you drive. I've recently gone back to a proper full time rwd BM and other drivers just know that somebody driving a machine like that is not your ordinary motorist but a successful dynamic person who hasn't got time to hang around like most other people. It isn't their fault because not everybody can be successful but they generally know when they're beaten and it's time to get out of the way.
About the only car I've ever had to get out of the way of had blue flashing lights on and it was going even quicker than me but it was a BM, one of the big 5 series and it did show me how impressive a well driven BM looks when it comes up quickly behind you.
TarpaTow said:
I can't really think of times when I've been held up by lane blockers but that's probably because I drive a BM.
The sudden appearance of the BM grille and badging in somebody's mirrors, if they haven't already seen me catching them up quickly, just seems to get the message across that they're dealing with a high performance car being piloted quickly by an experienced driver, so they get out of the way really quickly.
If I didn't have the BM I would just use full headlights and horn to attract their attention.
It's all about the image created by the car you drive. I've recently gone back to a proper full time rwd BM and other drivers just know that somebody driving a machine like that is not your ordinary motorist but a successful dynamic person who hasn't got time to hang around like most other people. It isn't their fault because not everybody can be successful but they generally know when they're beaten and it's time to get out of the way.
About the only car I've ever had to get out of the way of had blue flashing lights on and it was going even quicker than me but it was a BM, one of the big 5 series and it did show me how impressive a well driven BM looks when it comes up quickly behind you.
Stop saying BM.The sudden appearance of the BM grille and badging in somebody's mirrors, if they haven't already seen me catching them up quickly, just seems to get the message across that they're dealing with a high performance car being piloted quickly by an experienced driver, so they get out of the way really quickly.
If I didn't have the BM I would just use full headlights and horn to attract their attention.
It's all about the image created by the car you drive. I've recently gone back to a proper full time rwd BM and other drivers just know that somebody driving a machine like that is not your ordinary motorist but a successful dynamic person who hasn't got time to hang around like most other people. It isn't their fault because not everybody can be successful but they generally know when they're beaten and it's time to get out of the way.
About the only car I've ever had to get out of the way of had blue flashing lights on and it was going even quicker than me but it was a BM, one of the big 5 series and it did show me how impressive a well driven BM looks when it comes up quickly behind you.
Sten. said:
TarpaTow said:
I can't really think of times when I've been held up by lane blockers but that's probably because I drive a BM.
The sudden appearance of the BM grille and badging in somebody's mirrors, if they haven't already seen me catching them up quickly, just seems to get the message across that they're dealing with a high performance car being piloted quickly by an experienced driver, so they get out of the way really quickly.
If I didn't have the BM I would just use full headlights and horn to attract their attention.
It's all about the image created by the car you drive. I've recently gone back to a proper full time rwd BM and other drivers just know that somebody driving a machine like that is not your ordinary motorist but a successful dynamic person who hasn't got time to hang around like most other people. It isn't their fault because not everybody can be successful but they generally know when they're beaten and it's time to get out of the way.
About the only car I've ever had to get out of the way of had blue flashing lights on and it was going even quicker than me but it was a BM, one of the big 5 series and it did show me how impressive a well driven BM looks when it comes up quickly behind you.
Getting less funny than it used to be.The sudden appearance of the BM grille and badging in somebody's mirrors, if they haven't already seen me catching them up quickly, just seems to get the message across that they're dealing with a high performance car being piloted quickly by an experienced driver, so they get out of the way really quickly.
If I didn't have the BM I would just use full headlights and horn to attract their attention.
It's all about the image created by the car you drive. I've recently gone back to a proper full time rwd BM and other drivers just know that somebody driving a machine like that is not your ordinary motorist but a successful dynamic person who hasn't got time to hang around like most other people. It isn't their fault because not everybody can be successful but they generally know when they're beaten and it's time to get out of the way.
About the only car I've ever had to get out of the way of had blue flashing lights on and it was going even quicker than me but it was a BM, one of the big 5 series and it did show me how impressive a well driven BM looks when it comes up quickly behind you.
I never flash them out of the way. Just causes aggression.
In most cases I will 'orbit' them (only once though). For many people, I actually find this wakes them up and they move over. They simply weren't paying attention, happens to us all.
Occasionally it's safer for me to pass them on the inside. Again, after I've passed them, many seem to realise and move over, (after I've passed).
It's a big problem but in my experience it seems to be inattentiveness that causes it rather than stupidity or ignorance. With some exceptions.
In most cases I will 'orbit' them (only once though). For many people, I actually find this wakes them up and they move over. They simply weren't paying attention, happens to us all.
Occasionally it's safer for me to pass them on the inside. Again, after I've passed them, many seem to realise and move over, (after I've passed).
It's a big problem but in my experience it seems to be inattentiveness that causes it rather than stupidity or ignorance. With some exceptions.
zarjaz1991 said:
I never flash them out of the way. Just causes aggression.
In my experience most simply move over. There's plenty of quite normal folk who simply don't realise they're blocking the lane for faster traffic.Though I have witnessed a couple of mildly amusing bouts of sign language from people I've eventually had to pass.Howard- said:
MrGTI6 said:
Aside from ramming them onto the hard shoulder, what is the best way of dealing with these brain-dead idiots?
For example, you are in lane one gaining on a moron in lane two who is overtaking thin air. Do you remain in lane one and pass them? Or move from lane one to lane three, and back to lane one once past?
The first option is much easier, but if they move across into your lane and collide with you as you are passing, who is at fault from a legal perspective?
I just pass them and get on with my day. Whether I pass them on the left or right depends on various factors such as the traffic, or if I can be bothered to swing out into lane 3 and then back into lane 1. If I'm in lane 1 and approaching someone in lane 2 then I'll usually just keep going, but be ready to dive into the hard shoulder if they do start moving lanes. In my experience though, they never do.For example, you are in lane one gaining on a moron in lane two who is overtaking thin air. Do you remain in lane one and pass them? Or move from lane one to lane three, and back to lane one once past?
The first option is much easier, but if they move across into your lane and collide with you as you are passing, who is at fault from a legal perspective?
Patch888 said:
TarpaTow said:
I can't really think of times when I've been held up by lane blockers but that's probably because I drive a BM.
The sudden appearance of the BM grille and badging in somebody's mirrors, if they haven't already seen me catching them up quickly, just seems to get the message across that they're dealing with a high performance car being piloted quickly by an experienced driver, so they get out of the way really quickly.
If I didn't have the BM I would just use full headlights and horn to attract their attention.
It's all about the image created by the car you drive. I've recently gone back to a proper full time rwd BM and other drivers just know that somebody driving a machine like that is not your ordinary motorist but a successful dynamic person who hasn't got time to hang around like most other people. It isn't their fault because not everybody can be successful but they generally know when they're beaten and it's time to get out of the way.
About the only car I've ever had to get out of the way of had blue flashing lights on and it was going even quicker than me but it was a BM, one of the big 5 series and it did show me how impressive a well driven BM looks when it comes up quickly behind you.
Stop saying BM.The sudden appearance of the BM grille and badging in somebody's mirrors, if they haven't already seen me catching them up quickly, just seems to get the message across that they're dealing with a high performance car being piloted quickly by an experienced driver, so they get out of the way really quickly.
If I didn't have the BM I would just use full headlights and horn to attract their attention.
It's all about the image created by the car you drive. I've recently gone back to a proper full time rwd BM and other drivers just know that somebody driving a machine like that is not your ordinary motorist but a successful dynamic person who hasn't got time to hang around like most other people. It isn't their fault because not everybody can be successful but they generally know when they're beaten and it's time to get out of the way.
About the only car I've ever had to get out of the way of had blue flashing lights on and it was going even quicker than me but it was a BM, one of the big 5 series and it did show me how impressive a well driven BM looks when it comes up quickly behind you.
tejr said:
Sten. said:
TarpaTow said:
I can't really think of times when I've been held up by lane blockers but that's probably because I drive a BM.
The sudden appearance of the BM grille and badging in somebody's mirrors, if they haven't already seen me catching them up quickly, just seems to get the message across that they're dealing with a high performance car being piloted quickly by an experienced driver, so they get out of the way really quickly.
If I didn't have the BM I would just use full headlights and horn to attract their attention.
It's all about the image created by the car you drive. I've recently gone back to a proper full time rwd BM and other drivers just know that somebody driving a machine like that is not your ordinary motorist but a successful dynamic person who hasn't got time to hang around like most other people. It isn't their fault because not everybody can be successful but they generally know when they're beaten and it's time to get out of the way.
About the only car I've ever had to get out of the way of had blue flashing lights on and it was going even quicker than me but it was a BM, one of the big 5 series and it did show me how impressive a well driven BM looks when it comes up quickly behind you.
Getting less funny than it used to be.The sudden appearance of the BM grille and badging in somebody's mirrors, if they haven't already seen me catching them up quickly, just seems to get the message across that they're dealing with a high performance car being piloted quickly by an experienced driver, so they get out of the way really quickly.
If I didn't have the BM I would just use full headlights and horn to attract their attention.
It's all about the image created by the car you drive. I've recently gone back to a proper full time rwd BM and other drivers just know that somebody driving a machine like that is not your ordinary motorist but a successful dynamic person who hasn't got time to hang around like most other people. It isn't their fault because not everybody can be successful but they generally know when they're beaten and it's time to get out of the way.
About the only car I've ever had to get out of the way of had blue flashing lights on and it was going even quicker than me but it was a BM, one of the big 5 series and it did show me how impressive a well driven BM looks when it comes up quickly behind you.
nonsequitur said:
TarpaTow said:
I can't really think of times when I've been held up by lane blockers but that's probably because I drive a BM.
The sudden appearance of the BM grille and badging in somebody's mirrors, if they haven't already seen me catching them up quickly, just seems to get the message across that they're dealing with a high performance car being piloted quickly by an experienced driver, so they get out of the way really quickly.
If I didn't have the BM I would just use full headlights and horn to attract their attention.
It's all about the image created by the car you drive. I've recently gone back to a proper full time rwd BM and other drivers just know that somebody driving a machine like that is not your ordinary motorist but a successful dynamic person who hasn't got time to hang around like most other people. It isn't their fault because not everybody can be successful but they generally know when they're beaten and it's time to get out of the way.
About the only car I've ever had to get out of the way of had blue flashing lights on and it was going even quicker than me but it was a BM, one of the big 5 series and it did show me how impressive a well driven BM looks when it comes up quickly behind you.
' BM ' in your mirror, getting closer, closer, usually equates to.... Well, let's look at the evidence: Piloted by an experienced driver / Use headlights and horn to attract attention / Not an ordinary motorist / A successful dynamic person / No time to hang around / It's time to get out of the way / Not everybody can be successful / The only car I've had to get out of the way of had blue flashing lights.The sudden appearance of the BM grille and badging in somebody's mirrors, if they haven't already seen me catching them up quickly, just seems to get the message across that they're dealing with a high performance car being piloted quickly by an experienced driver, so they get out of the way really quickly.
If I didn't have the BM I would just use full headlights and horn to attract their attention.
It's all about the image created by the car you drive. I've recently gone back to a proper full time rwd BM and other drivers just know that somebody driving a machine like that is not your ordinary motorist but a successful dynamic person who hasn't got time to hang around like most other people. It isn't their fault because not everybody can be successful but they generally know when they're beaten and it's time to get out of the way.
About the only car I've ever had to get out of the way of had blue flashing lights on and it was going even quicker than me but it was a BM, one of the big 5 series and it did show me how impressive a well driven BM looks when it comes up quickly behind you.
Tragic..
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