What is the best way of dealing with middle-lane hoggers?

[vonhosen]

otolith said:

vonhosen said:

I don't personally find lane hoggers too much of a problem on motorways (SMART or otherwise).
I just get on with where I'm going to & don't let it worry me.

How do you avoid being delayed by the accidents they cause?

I use a Sat Nav with traffic updates & manage the times I allow for journeys pretty well.
Works for me.

[EazyDuz]

Typically undertake then move back into middle lane

[swisstoni]

otolith said:

vonhosen said:

I don't personally find lane hoggers too much of a problem on motorways (SMART or otherwise).
I just get on with where I'm going to & don't let it worry me.

How do you avoid being delayed by the accidents they cause?

You don't think its the nose to tail merchants in the outside lane that cause more accidents?

[Deep Thought]

How do i deal with them?

If i'm in the inside lane, i will undertake them, by virtue of moving faster than them.

If i am i the middle or outside lane i'll overtake them then drop across to the appropriate lane, whether that be the inside lane if its empty or the middle lane if theres vehicles in the inside lane.

[otolith]

swisstoni said:

otolith said:

vonhosen said:

I don't personally find lane hoggers too much of a problem on motorways (SMART or otherwise).
I just get on with where I'm going to & don't let it worry me.

How do you avoid being delayed by the accidents they cause?

You don't think its the nose to tail merchants in the outside lane that cause more accidents?

I do. What's causing them to behave that way?

[Glasgowrob]

normally just stay where I am in lane one, and happily trundle by.

if its a 2 lane section I normally give them 30 seconds or so then a flash of the main beam.



ideally I'd like to see summary execution at the roadside brought in though,

[vonhosen]

otolith said:

swisstoni said:

otolith said:

vonhosen said:

I don't personally find lane hoggers too much of a problem on motorways (SMART or otherwise).
I just get on with where I'm going to & don't let it worry me.

How do you avoid being delayed by the accidents they cause?

You don't think its the nose to tail merchants in the outside lane that cause more accidents?

I do. What's causing them to behave that way?

Their own idiocy.
They have a choice, they don't have to behave the way they do. They choose to.
I choose not to.

[swisstoni]

otolith said:

swisstoni said:

otolith said:

vonhosen said:

I don't personally find lane hoggers too much of a problem on motorways (SMART or otherwise).
I just get on with where I'm going to & don't let it worry me.

How do you avoid being delayed by the accidents they cause?

You don't think its the nose to tail merchants in the outside lane that cause more accidents?

I do. What's causing them to behave that way?

I’d have put money on that response.

[otolith]

I'm not excusing their behaviour. I'm pointing out that part of the reason they behave that way is a response to how other people are behaving, and that if we could get everyone to use the road more correctly we might stand a chance of fixing it.

[swisstoni]

otolith said:

I'm not excusing their behaviour. I'm pointing out that part of the reason they behave that way is a response to how other people are behaving, and that if we could get everyone to use the road more correctly we might stand a chance of fixing it.

While that’s a lovely idea, I think a lot of outside lane residents are there regardless.

[EazyDuz]

anonymous said:

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Doesnt matter how far you are concerned, you can still get a fine for it

[swisstoni]

EazyDuz said:

anonymous said:

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Doesnt matter how far you are concerned, you can still get a fine for it

Just easing past on the inside, under 70 and staying in your lane is just moving with traffic non?

[Baldchap]

Life's too short. Just overtake and be done with it. It is the police's job to police the roads. None of us are perfect.

[otolith]

vonhosen said:

otolith said:

vonhosen said:

I don't personally find lane hoggers too much of a problem on motorways (SMART or otherwise).
I just get on with where I'm going to & don't let it worry me.

How do you avoid being delayed by the accidents they cause?

I use a Sat Nav with traffic updates & manage the times I allow for journeys pretty well.
Works for me.

So do I. I still sometimes end up with a 3 hour journey taking six hours because some plonkers have been queued up too close trying to get past some other plonkers who are lane hogging.

[NickCQ]

popeyewhite said:

NickCQ said:

CharlieH89 said:

foreigners that there are sat in the middle lane causing traffic is ridiculous.

Foreign plates or just people who 'look a bit foreign' through the window...

Lane discipline very poor especially from young Indian lady drivers, and Indian taxi drivers around here (Manchester). Why would they have foreign plates? Odd. Also a phenomena in South Manchester is the particularly poor driving of young Pakistani ladies driving cars their parents have purchased for them. Why oh why dad can't let his little princess drive around the ring road in a Ford instead of a whacking great Mercedes SUV is beyond me.

I'm just wondering how one call tell they are foreign if they have UK plates on the car...

[vonhosen]

otolith said:

I'm not excusing their behaviour. I'm pointing out that part of the reason they behave that way is a response to how other people are behaving, and that if we could get everyone to use the road more correctly we might stand a chance of fixing it.

Correctly starts with not responding poorly to the way others drive.

As to using the road correctly, that's doing it in the way that those managing the roads dictate, not our own version that we think amounts to correct.

[popeyewhite]

NickCQ said:

popeyewhite said:

NickCQ said:

CharlieH89 said:

foreigners that there are sat in the middle lane causing traffic is ridiculous.

Foreign plates or just people who 'look a bit foreign' through the window...

Lane discipline very poor especially from young Indian lady drivers, and Indian taxi drivers around here (Manchester). Why would they have foreign plates? Odd. Also a phenomena in South Manchester is the particularly poor driving of young Pakistani ladies driving cars their parents have purchased for them. Why oh why dad can't let his little princess drive around the ring road in a Ford instead of a whacking great Mercedes SUV is beyond me.

I'm just wondering how one call tell they are foreign if they have UK plates on the car...

Oh.

[silverfoxcc]

The L1>L2>L3>L2>L1 brigade have never been on the western bit of the M25 where there are 6 lanes at one point and with a FLM ( fifth lane moron) sitting there. It happens more time than you think L1/2/3/4 empty, 5/6 full of nose to tail nutcases

If you want to go into the next countyin order to do it correctly then off you go.. L1>L2>L3>L4>L5>L6>L5>L4>L3>L2>L1 looks pretty anal doesn't it

Me?sty in L1 he is that far away not to bother me

The only caveat i have is that if the speedo shows more than 75 ( very rarely) then i do go 1/2/3/2/1. otherwise <70 and i sit in L1 irrespective of where they are. plus the new 'smart'M3 now there is an oxymoron. has its own private lane for those wishing to cruise at 70+ guess which one

[SkodaIan]

It depends what I'm driving. They are most of an issue if I'm in a company van (70mph speed limiter) or towing a trailer (so not allowed to use lane 3). I always overtake on the correct side - undertaking someone who is oblivous is a recipe for a crash, and also perpetuates the problem as they then think sitting in the middle lane is the correct thing to do.

They are usually also the brain dead idiots who can't maintain a constant speed and slowly drift up and down between 55 and 80. With the speed limiter that's a real nuisance, and what often happens is that as they see a 5 metre long high-top Sprinter coming past and think "a big van's coming past, I must be going too slow so I'd better speed up a bit". They then accelerate up to 70 and sit in my blind spot about two-thirds of the way down the van matching my speed.

If the van is sign-written (large well known multi-national), the only thing I can then do is drop back and try again later. I've found that following behind a car is often a better bet for them not changing speed than going past on my own.

Once I'm past, I'll keep a good eye on them for a while in the mirror. If it looks like they might come past at some point because their speed is currently in the 70-80 phase and there isn't a deal of traffic, I will pull out into the middle lane to stop them coming past and then slowing down in front of me again. They are the kind of people who think the outside lane is only for BMWs and Audis so they never change lanes to overtake!

[Johnnytheboy]

SkodaIan said:

They are the kind of people who think the outside lane is only for BMWs and Audis so they never change lanes to overtake!

They amuse me. It's like they are driving a L2 Scalextric car! They catch someone up in L2 and just speed match....