RE: Aventador SVJ claims Nurburgring lap record

[Deano84]

InductionRoar said:

Is an extra 2.7 litres and six more cylinders really "only" worth 2.27 seconds?

Fair enough the Porsche is turbocharged, but I would have expected the Lambo to be substantially quicker than the Porsche.

I wouldn't want either cars, but the Porsche is certainly a lot more impressive to me.

Yeah, I’m sure you wouldn’t want either of those cars.... I believe you, honest

[louiebaby]

Porsche and Lamborghini are all part of the VW group.

Porsche and Lamborghini are not at war, they're doing this to grab headlines. Whilst there is no doubt that the engineering in both cars is simply incredible, the marketing team is working just as hard.

"Beat the record, but only by a little bit, so we can re-beat it."

[Sandpit Steve]

Chestrockwell said:

I wonder what kind of time the Senna can post, also the upcoming AMG thing with the F1 engine

I reckon the Senna’s gonna be inside 6’30”, if they can find a driver with sufficiently large cojones. How well does Bruno know the ‘ring?

All bets are off for the AMG thing and the Valkyrie though, well into the 5s I’d have thought, closer to the mad 919 Evo than any current road car. Take an F1 car as a base, then put back in the active aero, active suspension and all the other things that have been banned from racing over the years, with concessions only to the tyres and ultimate G-forces.

As others have said, we should all be grinning from ear to ear that thousands of engineers in a dozen different companies think making cars go faster is a good thing.

[Shiv_P]

likesachange said:

Ridiculous that people still call the original HP lap time BS...

Taking nothing away from the GT2RS that is an incredible time, i remember when the GT2's were classed as almost undriveable due to the boost, weight balance etc...

Really pleased that Aventador has went all out to get the record... This record may stand for a long long time for being fastest N/A production car of all time around the Ring!!!

Ferrari and Lamborghini have now said the V12's time is pretty much over... be interesting to see if the 812 run out will attempt a ring time... a few years off now i imagine.

Also pleased its now confirmed its called the Jota..

Especially as i bought V12 JOT as a gamble earlier in the year... wonder what value it has
Any takers??

You my friend are in the money

[thegreenhell]

E65Ross said:

TheDrBrian said:

E65Ross said:

NJC0607 said:

I have severe doubts about this "claim"

Lambo`s track record in this area, is highly dubious at best..

1) - the last attempt was utter BS. sped up video, badly cut and a complete con.

1 - if it was sped up, you better let the official record keepers know, because it stands. So you must know more than those who analyse the footage.

What official record keepers?
Surely if you were going for some sort of official record all the cars would need to be driven on the same day

No, this has never been the case with any track records. For example, F1 lap time records. When he mentions official record keepers, he means official time-keepers who have no vested interest in whether or not a new record is set.

That's the thing, there is nothing 'official' about any of this. There are no official time-keepers. There are no official record-keepers. There is no such thing as an official record, other than Bellof's lap record which was recorded by official time-keepers during an official race.

Manufacturers hire the circuit, time themselves and release a lap time. If we're lucky we get a video too. There is no regulation of what specification car is being tested, or whether it represents true production specification. Some manufacturers are more honest in this regard than others. It's all just a bit of fun willy-waving, but the process fails as a scientific test at just about every stage. If you want a more 'scientifically' credible comparison then the Sport Auto laps are more important than the manufacturers' own. Each car is independently tested (and usually weighed and dynoed) and lapped with the same driver.

Oh, and when you say 'he mentions' and 'he means' you mean 'you', as it's your own post that you're attempting to clarify, not somebody else who you think agrees with you.

[thegreenhell]

Further to my post above, I am genuinely impressed that a car as large, heavy and ugly as that is capable of going as fast as it does...

[Deano84]

likesachange said:

Ridiculous that people still call the original HP lap time BS...

Taking nothing away from the GT2RS that is an incredible time, i remember when the GT2's were classed as almost undriveable due to the boost, weight balance etc...

Really pleased that Aventador has went all out to get the record... This record may stand for a long long time for being fastest N/A production car of all time around the Ring!!!

Ferrari and Lamborghini have now said the V12's time is pretty much over... be interesting to see if the 812 run out will attempt a ring time... a few years off now i imagine.

Also pleased its now confirmed its called the Jota..

Especially as i bought V12 JOT as a gamble earlier in the year... wonder what value it has
Any takers??

Excellent registration mark, I am sure you will do well on that one especially if you bought it directly from the DVLA not at significant a premium someone else.

I don’t know if I have got a SVJ build slot yet (I have my deposit in). I may well be interested in it if I get one.

[GingerPixel]

I don't know how people can moan about this. Huge, spiky Lambo is cataclysmicly rapid around terrifying old circuit. That's what we're all here for, isn't it?

[likesachange]

Shiv_P said:

You my friend are in the money

I hope so, could do with a bit of luck

Thanks

[Gameface]

The Performante time has been verified by those involved and those that matter, such as Racelogic. Hence the time stands. There is no debate about that.

Anyone who thinks otherwise should have a break from the internet for a while.

[Deano84]

Gameface said:

The Performante time has been verified by those involved and those that matter, such as Racelogic. Hence the time stands. There is no debate about that.

Anyone who thinks otherwise should have a break from the internet for a while.

Absolutely agree. I am genuinely blown away that people think that the lap time is fake.

You just need to drive one of the things to believe it.... it’s beyond words.

[likesachange]

Deano84 said:

Excellent registration mark, I am sure you will do well on that one especially if you bought it directly from the DVLA not at significant a premium someone else.

I don’t know if I have got a SVJ build slot yet (I have my deposit in). I may well be interested in it if I get one.

Popped you an email

[InductionRoar]

Deano84 said:

InductionRoar said:

Is an extra 2.7 litres and six more cylinders really "only" worth 2.27 seconds?

Fair enough the Porsche is turbocharged, but I would have expected the Lambo to be substantially quicker than the Porsche.

I wouldn't want either cars, but the Porsche is certainly a lot more impressive to me.

Yeah, I’m sure you wouldn’t want either of those cars.... I believe you, honest

That's good of you.

[Michael77]

Looks legit to me. He can sure pedal a car.

https://youtu.be/QRsq35Et-EY

[iSore]

I misread the title and had an amusing thought.

[kainedog]

InductionRoar said:

That's good of you.

I wouldn’t mind either of those cars but I see where you’re coming from . It’s getting a little boring . Would be more interesting seeing manufacturers squeezing more bhp out of litres so to me the Porsche time is impressive

[The Real Stig]

Impressive on one hand - on the other hand I feel it’s the end of an era with combustian engines.
As tr there is no limit of power from electrical powered cars, the future records will be based on agility and aero package.

[Onehp]

Big GT said:

Wow what a time.
For something on the porky side weighing around 1.7ton that's incredible. The downforce, tyres and brakes must be immense.

Well the SV with the same quoted 'dry' weight has been weighed in by mags at 1821kg according to the EU definition, which is incl. 75kg driver and the weight standard used for most new cars today. (Edit considering that roll cage probably ups the weight again, the time is actually very impressive for such big lump...

Edited by Onehp on Friday 27th July 03:44

[Gameface]

Video up.

No doubt someone on YouTube will say the shadows on the track are wrong and they've cheated.

And then berks on here will believe it.

[likesachange]

He wasn’t even trying ..

https://youtu.be/QRsq35Et-EY