RE: Shed of the Week: VW Scirocco
Discussion
Article said:
In one 1985 test, the fuel-injected 112hp GTX 1.8 duffed up the £9,545 Nissan Silvia Turbo - in the 0-60mph dash
Mr_Sukebe said:
I also owner a couple of these, and agree with the other poster.
My 1.6 GT was frankly hopeless in a straightline, and the brakes on both were truly terrible.
Making up for that, I really like my 1983 GTi, thought that also had the fuel filler pipe issue.
As for the Silvia. Surprised that a one of the turbo's wasn't faster, as the GTX/GTI really weren't that fast in a straightline. A friend of mine had one of the Silvia 2ltrs (non-turbo, but strangely, faster than the 1.8 turbo). I'm sure that on paper the Silvia was faster.
Yes, I suggest they go and look at the test figures again if it is the 1985 What Car test they're referring to (exactly same cars although it was a Scirocco Storm )? If not, then I wonder if it was wet when tested? In the What CAR TEST featuring the Scirocco, Fuego and Nissan the Silvia 1.8 turbo was the quicker accelerating car. Plus faster flat out by almost 10mph.My 1.6 GT was frankly hopeless in a straightline, and the brakes on both were truly terrible.
Making up for that, I really like my 1983 GTi, thought that also had the fuel filler pipe issue.
As for the Silvia. Surprised that a one of the turbo's wasn't faster, as the GTX/GTI really weren't that fast in a straightline. A friend of mine had one of the Silvia 2ltrs (non-turbo, but strangely, faster than the 1.8 turbo). I'm sure that on paper the Silvia was faster.
Same in the test that Motor did a year later. The Scirocco was a second and a half behind to 60, 4 seconds adrift by 100 and almost 10mph short on top end.
You'd expect the Nissan to be a bit quicker with a rwd launch and and an extra 23bhp
s m said:
Article said:
In one 1985 test, the fuel-injected 112hp GTX 1.8 duffed up the £9,545 Nissan Silvia Turbo - in the 0-60mph dash
Mr_Sukebe said:
I also owner a couple of these, and agree with the other poster.
My 1.6 GT was frankly hopeless in a straightline, and the brakes on both were truly terrible.
Making up for that, I really like my 1983 GTi, thought that also had the fuel filler pipe issue.
As for the Silvia. Surprised that a one of the turbo's wasn't faster, as the GTX/GTI really weren't that fast in a straightline. A friend of mine had one of the Silvia 2ltrs (non-turbo, but strangely, faster than the 1.8 turbo). I'm sure that on paper the Silvia was faster.
Yes, I suggest they go and look at the test figures again if it is the 1985 What Car test they're referring to (exactly same cars although it was a Scirocco Storm )? If not, then I wonder if it was wet when tested? In the What CAR TEST featuring the Scirocco, Fuego and Nissan the Silvia 1.8 turbo was the quicker accelerating car. Plus faster flat out by almost 10mph.My 1.6 GT was frankly hopeless in a straightline, and the brakes on both were truly terrible.
Making up for that, I really like my 1983 GTi, thought that also had the fuel filler pipe issue.
As for the Silvia. Surprised that a one of the turbo's wasn't faster, as the GTX/GTI really weren't that fast in a straightline. A friend of mine had one of the Silvia 2ltrs (non-turbo, but strangely, faster than the 1.8 turbo). I'm sure that on paper the Silvia was faster.
Same in the test that Motor did a year later. The Scirocco was a second and a half behind to 60, 4 seconds adrift by 100 and almost 10mph short on top end.
You'd expect the Nissan to be a bit quicker with a rwd launch and and an extra 23bhp
Had an E plate GT in white when I was 19. Quickly realised my mistake and that paying £1400 a year insurance (in 2000) for a car that slow was a bit of a waste so part exchanged it with a trader selling the 1985 GTX pictured. Loved that car, quick, sounded good but as others have said, had rubbish brakes.
It developed a fuel injection issue that my garage struggled to fix so I left it at my uncle's place to store when I went to university and I never saw it again.... He wanted it gone, I had no money and I think in the end it went to the scrappers.
Good shed but my GT felt under powered nearly 20 years ago. Suspect it would feel even more so now.
It developed a fuel injection issue that my garage struggled to fix so I left it at my uncle's place to store when I went to university and I never saw it again.... He wanted it gone, I had no money and I think in the end it went to the scrappers.
Good shed but my GT felt under powered nearly 20 years ago. Suspect it would feel even more so now.
Blackpuddin said:
I think the triple test being referred to must have been the one in the June '85 issue of CAR as that one gave both the Nissan and the Fuego Turbo 0-60 times as 9.1sec, and the Scirocco GTX at 8.8sec. Top speeds of 124mph, 120mph and 118mph respectively. Maybe their tester was a bit better at getting FWD cars off the line.
Yes, either that or it was snowing! In reality the Silvia was the quicker car, can speak from experience and 2 year old cars back in the dayGreat shed. Ok, so it's only a low-powered 1.6 but it still looks great and who really wants to hare around at mach 3 in a 31 year old car anyway?! These should be cherished and preserved in my opinion. If you want to drive fast and carefree, by a new hot-hatch. Looks like a good investment opportunity! https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/imgs/4.gif
Rather ugly when compared with the last of the first generation Sciroccos. I had 2 of those, both GLS models and loved them. Of course I really wanted a GLI or a Storm, but couldn't quite afford either.
Elegant, reasonably quick by the standards of the day and very practical - if you lifted out the rear seat squab and tucked it behind the front seats, you could get a lot in the back.
The first one, in Mars Red with a really nice cream interior, rusted like heck. The second one, in metallic blue, was rather better but the grey interior wasn't as nice.
I was poised to buy a new second generation Scirocco and even visited a dealer. But I took one look at it, walked out and ordered a 2-door Opel Manta instead.
Elegant, reasonably quick by the standards of the day and very practical - if you lifted out the rear seat squab and tucked it behind the front seats, you could get a lot in the back.
The first one, in Mars Red with a really nice cream interior, rusted like heck. The second one, in metallic blue, was rather better but the grey interior wasn't as nice.
I was poised to buy a new second generation Scirocco and even visited a dealer. But I took one look at it, walked out and ordered a 2-door Opel Manta instead.
BigMon said:
I like them.
A bloke in Torquay has gone a mint J reg one that he's owned from new. I bumped into him at Sainsburys and he gave me full chapter and verse on it.
Don't fit in it though.
Is it red by any chance? There's been an immaculate one I've seen around the area for years.A bloke in Torquay has gone a mint J reg one that he's owned from new. I bumped into him at Sainsburys and he gave me full chapter and verse on it.
Don't fit in it though.
I'm biased.....
Had mine nigh on 11 years now.
Crap heavy steering, crap gear change and very crap brakes!
But I wouldn't change it. :-)
Also I've been helping to run the Scirocco Register with 3 other mates for the last 5 years or so.
Events like this one last weekend (over 90 Scirocco's at our national event, ignore the MK2 golf!) might seem like a collection of sad VW fans, but now have some lifelong friends and generally a cracking bunch of people
Had mine nigh on 11 years now.
Crap heavy steering, crap gear change and very crap brakes!
But I wouldn't change it. :-)
Also I've been helping to run the Scirocco Register with 3 other mates for the last 5 years or so.
Events like this one last weekend (over 90 Scirocco's at our national event, ignore the MK2 golf!) might seem like a collection of sad VW fans, but now have some lifelong friends and generally a cracking bunch of people
blade7 said:
Wasn't there a 16v Scirocco?
Not officially in the UKIn Germany & USA they got the 1.8 16v (KR engine found in the MK2 golf & Corrado)
There were about 10 16v LHD cars that were sold in the UK, but that was a dealer thing.
Most of them were converted to RHD at the dealers, but some of the ones that have been seen had very bad conversions!
Big problem with the car was it was designed on a LHD platform, therefore to get the braking system to work a cross over bar was fitted to the brake servo, making the brake pedal awful. (not that the LHD cars brakes were much better!)
Also the clutch cable has to cross over the entire engine bay to the gearbox on the N/S of the vehicle, which results in the clutch cable eventually chewing its way through the bulkhead....!
Edited by Haddock82 on Friday 10th August 18:15
Haddock82 said:
Also the clutch cable has to cross over the entire engine bay to the gearbox on the N/S of the vehicle, which results in the clutch cable eventually chewing its way through the bulkhead....!
Wow, proper amazing design from Volkswagen. Nice to see some consistency, at least. But that must be the silliest design fault I've heard until now!Edited by Haddock82 on Friday 10th August 18:15
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