RE: Skoda Superb 280 Estate: Spotted
Discussion
PBDirector said:
HardMiles said:
Guess that goes for anyone who like classics of any sort. Because a McLaren F1 is a few years old and isn’t the best thing ever I contend it’s boring I assume. Bet you’re fun at parties!
No one invites me to parties and I don’t know why...No of course I don’t think that of classics or anyone who likes classics of any sort, don’t be absurd!
There’s just something about Saab owners that’s wierd. People who are Vegan, do CrossFit, or have ever driven a Saab they’ll bang on about how much better it is than what anyone else does at ANY opportunity. Bore off!!
With you on the vegan thing, I’d rather give up air than bacon...
For me this sits in between something totally sensible and boring like a diesel Mondeo and something like an S4 or C43 AMG, while being a lot more practical than the whole lot of them.
Running costs generally a lot less than the premium badge stuff, reliability hopefully OK, nice and anonymous, huge inside and very good spec for the money. Has lots of nice touches for actually living with it, like hooks in the boot for bags and the ability to section the load space up to stop things rattling around.
I'm finding 280ps more than sufficient in a family barge, but you want the DCC adaptive dampers if you like driving quickly on B-roads, though - the default set-up is too wallowy to instill confidence. You want one with shift paddles, too.
The only thing I hate about mine is the throttle response (might be a DSG thing) in non-sport modes, which is insanely slow. You can push it briefly all the way to the floor and back and literally nothing happens. It's maddening. In fact, it's so bad it borders on dangerous. One can apparently sort this with a box you plug in-line with the throttle. Must get around to doing that.
It could use a longer top gear (I imagine they'll fit the seven speed to this at some point) - 70mph is about 2400rpm in sixth due to a shorter ratio box than the lower power 2.0l model, which hampers both refinement and economy somewhat. It's also a lot heavier than the 220 model due to the 4x4 hardware. I'm not sure there's really that much in them in real world driving and if I chose again would probably go for the 220. The amusement factor is high, though - in sport mode it is surprisingly fun.
Running costs generally a lot less than the premium badge stuff, reliability hopefully OK, nice and anonymous, huge inside and very good spec for the money. Has lots of nice touches for actually living with it, like hooks in the boot for bags and the ability to section the load space up to stop things rattling around.
I'm finding 280ps more than sufficient in a family barge, but you want the DCC adaptive dampers if you like driving quickly on B-roads, though - the default set-up is too wallowy to instill confidence. You want one with shift paddles, too.
The only thing I hate about mine is the throttle response (might be a DSG thing) in non-sport modes, which is insanely slow. You can push it briefly all the way to the floor and back and literally nothing happens. It's maddening. In fact, it's so bad it borders on dangerous. One can apparently sort this with a box you plug in-line with the throttle. Must get around to doing that.
It could use a longer top gear (I imagine they'll fit the seven speed to this at some point) - 70mph is about 2400rpm in sixth due to a shorter ratio box than the lower power 2.0l model, which hampers both refinement and economy somewhat. It's also a lot heavier than the 220 model due to the 4x4 hardware. I'm not sure there's really that much in them in real world driving and if I chose again would probably go for the 220. The amusement factor is high, though - in sport mode it is surprisingly fun.
Edited by herebebeasties on Sunday 19th August 20:42
herebebeasties said:
The only thing I hate about mine is the throttle response (might be a DSG thing) in non-sport modes, which is insanely slow. You can push it briefly all the way to the floor and back and literally nothing happens. It's maddening. In fact, it's so bad it borders on dangerous. One can apparently sort this with a box you plug in-line with the throttle. Must get around to doing that.
I wouldn’t go so far as to say I hate it, but I agree with you. If anything I find it an amusing game of “what throttle input do you need to apply in advance of when you need it so that it’s ready when yo do”. But then I drive it rarely, and I could imagine it would f—k me right off if it was my daily.
PS: all Saab drivers are saddos.
mcelliott said:
blearyeyedboy said:
mcelliott said:
Indeed had a stage1 fitted to my Octavia vrs, good lord.....
Out of interest, how much does it cost you to insure? I sometimes wonder about giving my Octavia a remap but I'm not keen to pay the same every year to insure it... Did it add much to your premium?
Out of interest, who is such a fleet policy through, and how many cars does it cover?
kett said:
PH has overstepped the mark on this article. These are depreciation fodder (and deservedly so). Preaching the virtues of said vehicle as a VFM proposition Is an unashamedly abuse of editorial freedom.
I would be (genuinely and politely) interested to know why you think this "deserves" to be depreciation fodder, and why you don't think it's value for money. I feel quite strongly in the opposing direction at the moment.Would you be kind enough to explain why this article evoked such a strong reaction about editorial freedom from you?
Croutons said:
mcelliott said:
blearyeyedboy said:
mcelliott said:
Indeed had a stage1 fitted to my Octavia vrs, good lord.....
Out of interest, how much does it cost you to insure? I sometimes wonder about giving my Octavia a remap but I'm not keen to pay the same every year to insure it... Did it add much to your premium?Out of interest, who is such a fleet policy through, and how many cars does it cover?
blearyeyedboy said:
kett said:
PH has overstepped the mark on this article. These are depreciation fodder (and deservedly so). Preaching the virtues of said vehicle as a VFM proposition Is an unashamedly abuse of editorial freedom.
I would be (genuinely and politely) interested to know why you think this "deserves" to be depreciation fodder, and why you don't think it's value for money. I feel quite strongly in the opposing direction at the moment.Would you be kind enough to explain why this article evoked such a strong reaction about editorial freedom from you?
The savage depreciation reflects only the badge-obsessed UK market, and nothing to do with its talent as a car.
legless said:
Have to say that I'm a bit bemused too. Of all the cars I've had, the Superb 280 estate stood head and shoulders above all the others as the ultimate family wagon. I'd genuinely have another one over something like a 5 series touring or A6 Avant - they're that good.
The savage depreciation reflects only the badge-obsessed UK market, and nothing to do with its talent as a car.
Much as I Iike Skoda estates, (had 2 Octavia vRS in the past), I might not agree with the "ultimate family wagon" comment..suspect my C6 RS6 Avant might take that accolade...with over double the power of the Superb, pricey beast to run but a wonderful, practical very quick family wagonThe savage depreciation reflects only the badge-obsessed UK market, and nothing to do with its talent as a car.
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