RE: Skoda Superb 280 Estate: Spotted
Discussion
luggie said:
aaron_2000 said:
luggie said:
Or you could buy the 550+ bhp one that’s advertised on autotrader for the ultimate sleeper
Didn't someone on here build that?Yeah there’s a thread on it in readers cars,
Superb iii a sleepers journey or something I think
ninepoint2 said:
legless said:
Have to say that I'm a bit bemused too. Of all the cars I've had, the Superb 280 estate stood head and shoulders above all the others as the ultimate family wagon. I'd genuinely have another one over something like a 5 series touring or A6 Avant - they're that good.
The savage depreciation reflects only the badge-obsessed UK market, and nothing to do with its talent as a car.
Much as I Iike Skoda estates, (had 2 Octavia vRS in the past), I might not agree with the "ultimate family wagon" comment..suspect my C6 RS6 Avant might take that accolade...with over double the power of the Superb, pricey beast to run but a wonderful, practical very quick family wagonThe savage depreciation reflects only the badge-obsessed UK market, and nothing to do with its talent as a car.
On the performance front, realistically the Skoda has enough to hold its own against the vast majority of the traffic. As it's a family wagon, I'm not in the habit of driving with my hair on fire while I've got my family in the car. As long as it's got enough power to stretch its legs away from roundabouts and down short sliproads I'm fine.
Planning on returning to a Superb in the new year.
PBDirector said:
ToothbrushMan said:
yeah sounds very anti-SAAB. not sure what is sad about it or whats to "get over".
No. I’m of course I’m not anti-Saab, whatever that means. I’m anti sad old men banging on about 20 year old Saab cars being better than anything ever invented ever including all the stuff being invented now. They’re not. And you’re not impressing anyone apart from the other boring old men who also love their Saabs. Every other human being just politely nods and thinks “wow that guy’s really boring banging on about his crap old car”....and breathe...
This is actually quite cathartic, thanks for the opportunity.
GibsonSG said:
I had three SAAB 9-5’s and I look back on them fondly, although they sure as hell were not perfect. My main recollection was incredibly comfy seats and a remarkably ragged chassis in the Aero. In standard form it could barely cope with its power output.
I currently run one as a spare-car-cum-dogwagon, and I'd definitely echo this. Ragged is definitely the word, if you try to use all the power.PBDirector said:
HardMiles said:
That award would probably go to a hot Saab of some description surely! Same sort of power and build quality but 20 years ahead nearly!!
Wtf is it with Saab obsessives every time? Have none of then got any idea how sad this comment sounds outside of their special Saab fanatic safe space? They might as well blurt our that they love wearing latex and licking toes.There is no sensible comparison between this car and a bloody Saab from 20 years ago. Get over it.
herebebeasties said:
The only thing I hate about mine is the throttle response (might be a DSG thing) in non-sport modes, which is insanely slow. You can push it briefly all the way to the floor and back and literally nothing happens. It's maddening. In fact, it's so bad it borders on dangerous. One can apparently sort this with a box you plug in-line with the throttle. Must get around to doing that.
I'd recommend a DSG remap over a plugin box. Shark Performance could definitely offer this, plus the likes of Revo et al too I'm sure.Edited by herebebeasties on Sunday 19th August 20:42
You'd also benefits from some other perks, which offer better manual control of the 'box.
I like these and when you look at the spec & size for the money they are great value.
Not sure i agree with the guy who thought they would be £10k in two years though, depreciation slows notably as a car matures.
Regarding the Saab comments. I have owned a Saab 9-3 tid for the last 18 months and apart from the very comfy ride and exceptional economy when on a run, mine averages 60 mpg at 70 on a motorway run, it is the worst built car i have ever owned. In 18 months and 12k miles mine has needed:
Steering rack
Battery
Starter motor
Gear shift linkage
Idler pulley
Sat nav disc
Air con condensor
That little lot has cost me approx £1600 at my local Saab dealer, who only charge £40 p/hr labour, so not far short of £100 p/mth in repairs. All on a car i bought with fsh and 70k miles.
At present it needs a new air con compressor, the fuel tank is leaking and the sat nav / stereo
display is now failing.
Shocking build quality, i certainly would advise anyone to avoid buying one and really don’t understand why people would be so loyal to a brand that was so flawed.
Not sure i agree with the guy who thought they would be £10k in two years though, depreciation slows notably as a car matures.
Regarding the Saab comments. I have owned a Saab 9-3 tid for the last 18 months and apart from the very comfy ride and exceptional economy when on a run, mine averages 60 mpg at 70 on a motorway run, it is the worst built car i have ever owned. In 18 months and 12k miles mine has needed:
Steering rack
Battery
Starter motor
Gear shift linkage
Idler pulley
Sat nav disc
Air con condensor
That little lot has cost me approx £1600 at my local Saab dealer, who only charge £40 p/hr labour, so not far short of £100 p/mth in repairs. All on a car i bought with fsh and 70k miles.
At present it needs a new air con compressor, the fuel tank is leaking and the sat nav / stereo
display is now failing.
Shocking build quality, i certainly would advise anyone to avoid buying one and really don’t understand why people would be so loyal to a brand that was so flawed.
Panjy said:
I like these and when you look at the spec & size for the money they are great value.
Not sure i agree with the guy who thought they would be £10k in two years though, depreciation slows notably as a car matures.
Regarding the Saab comments. I have owned a Saab 9-3 tid for the last 18 months and apart from the very comfy ride and exceptional economy when on a run, mine averages 60 mpg at 70 on a motorway run, it is the worst built car i have ever owned. In 18 months and 12k miles mine has needed:
Steering rack
Battery
Starter motor
Gear shift linkage
Idler pulley
Sat nav disc
Air con condensor
That little lot has cost me approx £1600 at my local Saab dealer, who only charge £40 p/hr labour, so not far short of £100 p/mth in repairs. All on a car i bought with fsh and 70k miles.
At present it needs a new air con compressor, the fuel tank is leaking and the sat nav / stereo
display is now failing.
Shocking build quality, i certainly would advise anyone to avoid buying one and really don’t understand why people would be so loyal to a brand that was so flawed.
Sorry to break it to you, but you do have a vectra. The real good ones were pre-GM ownership. Not sure i agree with the guy who thought they would be £10k in two years though, depreciation slows notably as a car matures.
Regarding the Saab comments. I have owned a Saab 9-3 tid for the last 18 months and apart from the very comfy ride and exceptional economy when on a run, mine averages 60 mpg at 70 on a motorway run, it is the worst built car i have ever owned. In 18 months and 12k miles mine has needed:
Steering rack
Battery
Starter motor
Gear shift linkage
Idler pulley
Sat nav disc
Air con condensor
That little lot has cost me approx £1600 at my local Saab dealer, who only charge £40 p/hr labour, so not far short of £100 p/mth in repairs. All on a car i bought with fsh and 70k miles.
At present it needs a new air con compressor, the fuel tank is leaking and the sat nav / stereo
display is now failing.
Shocking build quality, i certainly would advise anyone to avoid buying one and really don’t understand why people would be so loyal to a brand that was so flawed.
Also, to break more bad news. If it’s needed an idler pulley, I’m hoping you had the belt done as I believe (from memory) 62-70k belt change is imperative to avoid total destruction.
Seats are comfy mind you! :-)
richinlondon said:
You've inspired me to get a saab reference in all of my future quotes, thank you.
See now I don’t reckon you’re a Saab driver, you’re just trying to wind me up.But if you are, then this is balls - ‘cause you were fully ready to bang on about your white pube wagon in every sentence anyway and you’re just trying to use me to justify it.
FWIW, since the demise of Saab, the second biggest marque (with a big gap to third) after Volvo in Sweden is VW, and Skoda is growing quickly taking VW buyers... (and VAG saw it was good...)
Yeah thats right, Swedes massively dumped their old Saabs and bought a VW/Skoda instead. Eat that Saab fanbojs!
Yeah thats right, Swedes massively dumped their old Saabs and bought a VW/Skoda instead. Eat that Saab fanbojs!
greswolde said:
"........ it'll cost you just £19,000"
"...........it'd have cost you just shy of £33,000 brand new - making this example half-price. Almost."
Since when was £19,000 (almost) half of £33,000? Great example of man-maths in action!
"...........it'd have cost you just shy of £33,000 brand new - making this example half-price. Almost."
Since when was £19,000 (almost) half of £33,000? Great example of man-maths in action!
...never mind the fact you could get near 30% discount off a new Superb estate today. Probably pretty average depreciation.
The thing that puts me off these is the VW connection (I think that VW reliability is well overrated).
Other than that, I think these are quite appealing- 280 BHP, big family estate and AWD. Yes I too would rather have the VR6 engined version from before (though this model looks better) but I would much rather have this than a similarly priced 520d/E-whatever/A6 2.0 TDI. This is a much bigger car than a 3-series/A4/C-Class so is pointless to compare them if you need the space.
As for depreciation, if most people pay circa £34k for one new (or less) than circa £19k for 2 years old is fairly industry standard. When in the trade, a typical 2 year old mid-£30ks German machine would book at circa £20k trade and could well be worth a few grand behind that with a retail value circa £21-£22k so that Skoda doesn't seem that far off to me.
Other than that, I think these are quite appealing- 280 BHP, big family estate and AWD. Yes I too would rather have the VR6 engined version from before (though this model looks better) but I would much rather have this than a similarly priced 520d/E-whatever/A6 2.0 TDI. This is a much bigger car than a 3-series/A4/C-Class so is pointless to compare them if you need the space.
As for depreciation, if most people pay circa £34k for one new (or less) than circa £19k for 2 years old is fairly industry standard. When in the trade, a typical 2 year old mid-£30ks German machine would book at circa £20k trade and could well be worth a few grand behind that with a retail value circa £21-£22k so that Skoda doesn't seem that far off to me.
Onehp said:
FWIW, since the demise of Saab, the second biggest marque (with a big gap to third) after Volvo in Sweden is VW, and Skoda is growing quickly taking VW buyers... (and VAG saw it was good...)
Yeah thats right, Swedes massively dumped their old Saabs and bought a VW/Skoda instead. Eat that Saab fanbojs!
I’m not surprised about Skoda - when I had my last 9-5, SAAB were just going belly up. I needed to replace it and didn’t like the look of the very last 9-5, especially as the company looked like it was going to be defunct shortly.Yeah thats right, Swedes massively dumped their old Saabs and bought a VW/Skoda instead. Eat that Saab fanbojs!
At that point I still needed a large family hauler due to the kids being relatively small. I looked round for the 3.6 Superb as a replacement but couldn’t find any (I was on company cars at the time so it needed to be new or less that 6m/6000 miles old). I liked its low profile image and general look of being a practical but quick daily car. I eventually went for a Subaru Outback 3.0R due to my excellent experiences with Subaru’s as my private cars - again a similar ethos with the Outback, practical, quick but not too flashy. I hated the bloody thing, but that’s a different story!!
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