RE: £4.5m Bugatti Divo 'built for corners'
Discussion
WCZ said:
There’s plenty of Veyrons which get driven regularly, these aren’t cars which appreciate in value so tend to not be stored in collections as much.
not sure how much of a reference that is, but exotic car dealer Tom Hartley (the one that photographs their inventory in a puddle for some reason) had this to say in 2015, nine years after launch“The highest-mileage Veyron I know of is a 2006 car that’s done 26,000 miles,” observes Hartley. Most, however, tend to have fewer than 5000 miles on the clock."
What a great example of brand marketing by Bug and asset investing by all those that bought one.
Let’s be clear, this is not a serious track car. But it looks nice and might make the owner some money as long as it’s stored away and never used.
As a car to use, the Chiron is obviously the better bet at half the price.
Let’s be clear, this is not a serious track car. But it looks nice and might make the owner some money as long as it’s stored away and never used.
As a car to use, the Chiron is obviously the better bet at half the price.
thegreenhell said:
johnzo said:
Is it only me who thinks that DIVO is a silly name?
It's named after a successful Bugatti factory racing driver from the 1920s/30s, just like the Veyron and Chiron were.What about some of the better-known factory Bugatti drivers who haven't yet been name-checked? Howe, Etancelin, Wimille, Varzi, Benoist, Taruffi, Dreyfus? OK, some of those might be better known for their non-Bugatti exploits and achievements, but even so.
"Divo" just sounds a bit, well, opera.
TooMany2cvs said:
thegreenhell said:
johnzo said:
Is it only me who thinks that DIVO is a silly name?
It's named after a successful Bugatti factory racing driver from the 1920s/30s, just like the Veyron and Chiron were.What about some of the better-known factory Bugatti drivers who haven't yet been name-checked? Howe, Etancelin, Wimille, Varzi, Benoist, Taruffi, Dreyfus? OK, some of those might be better known for their non-Bugatti exploits and achievements, but even so.
"Divo" just sounds a bit, well, opera.
TooMany2cvs said:
Never heard of him.
What about some of the better-known factory Bugatti drivers who haven't yet been name-checked? Howe, Etancelin, Wimille, Varzi, Benoist, Taruffi, Dreyfus? OK, some of those might be better known for their non-Bugatti exploits and achievements, but even so.
"Divo" just sounds a bit, well, opera.
Yeah - Etancelin pour moi. Then they could call the next Bug the Phi Phi ... What about some of the better-known factory Bugatti drivers who haven't yet been name-checked? Howe, Etancelin, Wimille, Varzi, Benoist, Taruffi, Dreyfus? OK, some of those might be better known for their non-Bugatti exploits and achievements, but even so.
"Divo" just sounds a bit, well, opera.
TooMany2cvs said:
Never heard of him.
What about some of the better-known factory Bugatti drivers who haven't yet been name-checked? Howe, Etancelin, Wimille , Varzi, Benoist, Taruffi, Dreyfus? OK, some of those might be better known for their non-Bugatti exploits and achievements, but even so.
"Divo" just sounds a bit, well, opera.
There's already a Bugatti Veyron variant named after Jean-Pierre Wimille..What about some of the better-known factory Bugatti drivers who haven't yet been name-checked? Howe, Etancelin, Wimille , Varzi, Benoist, Taruffi, Dreyfus? OK, some of those might be better known for their non-Bugatti exploits and achievements, but even so.
"Divo" just sounds a bit, well, opera.
Amanitin said:
WCZ said:
There’s plenty of Veyrons which get driven regularly, these aren’t cars which appreciate in value so tend to not be stored in collections as much.
not sure how much of a reference that is, but exotic car dealer Tom Hartley (the one that photographs their inventory in a puddle for some reason) had this to say in 2015, nine years after launch“The highest-mileage Veyron I know of is a 2006 car that’s done 26,000 miles,” observes Hartley. Most, however, tend to have fewer than 5000 miles on the clock."
It’s a special car for special occasions. Who cares what the mileage is?
Escy said:
A modified Audi R8 V8 ticks most of those boxes except for the weight which isn't really realistic these days. They are 1500kg, convert it to RWD...
Why "convert"? The R8 RWS (the RWD-only one) is only 50kg lighter than the 4WD - 1590kg, rather than 1640kg.https://www.pistonheads.com/news/general/audi-r8-r...
TooMany2cvs said:
thegreenhell said:
johnzo said:
Is it only me who thinks that DIVO is a silly name?
It's named after a successful Bugatti factory racing driver from the 1920s/30s, just like the Veyron and Chiron were.What about some of the better-known factory Bugatti drivers who haven't yet been name-checked? Howe, Etancelin, Wimille, Varzi, Benoist, Taruffi, Dreyfus? OK, some of those might be better known for their non-Bugatti exploits and achievements, but even so.
"Divo" just sounds a bit, well, opera.
btdk5 said:
What do people want? Someone to do 30k a year in one, shlepping up and down the motorway.
It’s a special car for special occasions. Who cares what the mileage is?
I agree.It’s a special car for special occasions. Who cares what the mileage is?
The people who own these won't have time to drive them everyday, they will be making money.
Plus the Chiron won't be the only special car they have, along with the yacht and jet.
So if it only gets driven once evedy few months, that's still using it properly to them.
coppice said:
In any sports car , ever, . two tonnes is not and never should be thought of as being light. The div is as grotesque as those other oversized and stupidly named horrors ,the Cullinan and the Bentayga
My point was that it is relatively light for having such a massive engine. It's more a rocket GT than a sportscar for sure. Bentayga is kerb 2600kg with options, and for that weight the performance is quite surprising... but sportscar? No way...
LaurasOtherHalf said:
I actually love what Bugatti are doing in their modern incarnation by VW.
Not to everyone’s tastes admittedly but you can’t deny they’re something special and actually a pretty unique car buying prospect.
With the main players like McLaren, Lamborghini, Ferrari and Porsche doing their stuff and Pagani, Koenigsegg and the rest of the boutique marques doing theirs, Bugatti have the hyper-Lucy art market all to themselves.
I always think of any of the main player manufactures being millionaire’s cars.
Bugatti, they’re for billionaires. The one off custom yacht of the automotive world.
Tbh i think the interior looks cheap, esp for a 2000kg car costing 5mill.Not to everyone’s tastes admittedly but you can’t deny they’re something special and actually a pretty unique car buying prospect.
With the main players like McLaren, Lamborghini, Ferrari and Porsche doing their stuff and Pagani, Koenigsegg and the rest of the boutique marques doing theirs, Bugatti have the hyper-Lucy art market all to themselves.
I always think of any of the main player manufactures being millionaire’s cars.
Bugatti, they’re for billionaires. The one off custom yacht of the automotive world.
McLaren's Speedtail has allready gatecrashed this hyper lux market.
Simon Cowell's "only" worth 500mill so no billionaire.
Looks better than the Chiron though.
Escy said:
A modified Audi R8 V8 ticks most of those boxes except for the weight which isn't really realistic these days. They are 1500kg, convert it to RWD, replace the wheels, seats and exhaust with something lighter and you'd probably be at around 1350kg
That is a tad optimistic 1350kg, you will hardly gain that much by removing all those parts... A Mclaren 720s is 1420kg kerb, weighed irl with a full tank. That is pretty neat for the power available and also explains why they are so bloody quick... I think they are the most suitable party to make a cmoose puristic driver machine, they 'just' need to put a lighter higher revving NA engine in and lighten all parts that aren't loaded as much with the resulting lower power, spiralling down weight a bit more. But afaik they aren't into that kind of sports cars... But some british A110 competition, a mini McLaren would be great...
noble12345 said:
Tbh i think the interior looks cheap, esp for a 2000kg car costing 5mill.
McLaren's Speedtail has allready gatecrashed this hyper lux market.
Considering the car is track focused, it is hardly comparable to Speedtail (waiting for the reveal and only 106 to be built)McLaren's Speedtail has allready gatecrashed this hyper lux market.
The hard lesson is avoiding underestimating the weight. Nature taught us with orcas extreme agile and speed despite their weight.
As an engineering exercise, great. Fascinating to push the boundaries of what a car can be capable of.
As a car, pointless. These won’t get driven much, raced or even viewed by almost all unless on a TV/computer screen. Boring.
As mentioned before, a useable, baby Maclaren to rival the Boxster; now I’m interested!
As a car, pointless. These won’t get driven much, raced or even viewed by almost all unless on a TV/computer screen. Boring.
As mentioned before, a useable, baby Maclaren to rival the Boxster; now I’m interested!
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