RE: £4.5m Bugatti Divo 'built for corners'

RE: £4.5m Bugatti Divo 'built for corners'

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Amanitin

422 posts

137 months

Sunday 26th August 2018
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WCZ said:
There’s plenty of Veyrons which get driven regularly, these aren’t cars which appreciate in value so tend to not be stored in collections as much.
not sure how much of a reference that is, but exotic car dealer Tom Hartley (the one that photographs their inventory in a puddle for some reason) had this to say in 2015, nine years after launch

“The highest-mileage Veyron I know of is a 2006 car that’s done 26,000 miles,” observes Hartley. Most, however, tend to have fewer than 5000 miles on the clock."

subirg

718 posts

276 months

Sunday 26th August 2018
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What a great example of brand marketing by Bug and asset investing by all those that bought one.

Let’s be clear, this is not a serious track car. But it looks nice and might make the owner some money as long as it’s stored away and never used.

As a car to use, the Chiron is obviously the better bet at half the price.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Sunday 26th August 2018
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thegreenhell said:
johnzo said:
Is it only me who thinks that DIVO is a silly name?
It's named after a successful Bugatti factory racing driver from the 1920s/30s, just like the Veyron and Chiron were.
Never heard of him.

What about some of the better-known factory Bugatti drivers who haven't yet been name-checked? Howe, Etancelin, Wimille, Varzi, Benoist, Taruffi, Dreyfus? OK, some of those might be better known for their non-Bugatti exploits and achievements, but even so.

"Divo" just sounds a bit, well, opera.

johnzo

526 posts

267 months

Sunday 26th August 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
thegreenhell said:
johnzo said:
Is it only me who thinks that DIVO is a silly name?
It's named after a successful Bugatti factory racing driver from the 1920s/30s, just like the Veyron and Chiron were.
Never heard of him.

What about some of the better-known factory Bugatti drivers who haven't yet been name-checked? Howe, Etancelin, Wimille, Varzi, Benoist, Taruffi, Dreyfus? OK, some of those might be better known for their non-Bugatti exploits and achievements, but even so.

"Divo" just sounds a bit, well, opera.
Sounds too much like DIVA in my opinion! Bugatti Varzi or Bugatti Etancelin sound great.

coppice

8,610 posts

144 months

Sunday 26th August 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
Never heard of him.

What about some of the better-known factory Bugatti drivers who haven't yet been name-checked? Howe, Etancelin, Wimille, Varzi, Benoist, Taruffi, Dreyfus? OK, some of those might be better known for their non-Bugatti exploits and achievements, but even so.

"Divo" just sounds a bit, well, opera.
Yeah - Etancelin pour moi. Then they could call the next Bug the Phi Phi ...

moneymakestheworldgoaround

4,079 posts

175 months

Sunday 26th August 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
Never heard of him.

What about some of the better-known factory Bugatti drivers who haven't yet been name-checked? Howe, Etancelin, Wimille , Varzi, Benoist, Taruffi, Dreyfus? OK, some of those might be better known for their non-Bugatti exploits and achievements, but even so.

"Divo" just sounds a bit, well, opera.
There's already a Bugatti Veyron variant named after Jean-Pierre Wimille..


btdk5

1,852 posts

190 months

Sunday 26th August 2018
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Amanitin said:
WCZ said:
There’s plenty of Veyrons which get driven regularly, these aren’t cars which appreciate in value so tend to not be stored in collections as much.
not sure how much of a reference that is, but exotic car dealer Tom Hartley (the one that photographs their inventory in a puddle for some reason) had this to say in 2015, nine years after launch

“The highest-mileage Veyron I know of is a 2006 car that’s done 26,000 miles,” observes Hartley. Most, however, tend to have fewer than 5000 miles on the clock."
What do people want? Someone to do 30k a year in one, shlepping up and down the motorway.

It’s a special car for special occasions. Who cares what the mileage is?


Escy

3,937 posts

149 months

Sunday 26th August 2018
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anonymous said:
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A modified Audi R8 V8 ticks most of those boxes except for the weight which isn't really realistic these days. They are 1500kg, convert it to RWD, replace the wheels, seats and exhaust with something lighter and you'd probably be at around 1350kg

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Sunday 26th August 2018
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Escy said:
A modified Audi R8 V8 ticks most of those boxes except for the weight which isn't really realistic these days. They are 1500kg, convert it to RWD...
Why "convert"? The R8 RWS (the RWD-only one) is only 50kg lighter than the 4WD - 1590kg, rather than 1640kg.
https://www.pistonheads.com/news/general/audi-r8-r...

thegreenhell

15,354 posts

219 months

Sunday 26th August 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
thegreenhell said:
johnzo said:
Is it only me who thinks that DIVO is a silly name?
It's named after a successful Bugatti factory racing driver from the 1920s/30s, just like the Veyron and Chiron were.
Never heard of him.

What about some of the better-known factory Bugatti drivers who haven't yet been name-checked? Howe, Etancelin, Wimille, Varzi, Benoist, Taruffi, Dreyfus? OK, some of those might be better known for their non-Bugatti exploits and achievements, but even so.

"Divo" just sounds a bit, well, opera.
Albert Divo, winner of the 1928 and 29 Targa Florio races in a Type 35


Escy

3,937 posts

149 months

Sunday 26th August 2018
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That's the V10 so heavier again. A RWD V8 R8 would be the lightest.

Its Just Adz

14,088 posts

209 months

Sunday 26th August 2018
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btdk5 said:
What do people want? Someone to do 30k a year in one, shlepping up and down the motorway.

It’s a special car for special occasions. Who cares what the mileage is?
I agree.
The people who own these won't have time to drive them everyday, they will be making money.
Plus the Chiron won't be the only special car they have, along with the yacht and jet.
So if it only gets driven once evedy few months, that's still using it properly to them.

Onehp

1,617 posts

283 months

Sunday 26th August 2018
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coppice said:
In any sports car , ever, . two tonnes is not and never should be thought of as being light. The div is as grotesque as those other oversized and stupidly named horrors ,the Cullinan and the Bentayga
My point was that it is relatively light for having such a massive engine. It's more a rocket GT than a sportscar for sure.
Bentayga is kerb 2600kg with options, and for that weight the performance is quite surprising... but sportscar? No way...

noble12345

362 posts

216 months

Sunday 26th August 2018
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
I actually love what Bugatti are doing in their modern incarnation by VW.

Not to everyone’s tastes admittedly but you can’t deny they’re something special and actually a pretty unique car buying prospect.

With the main players like McLaren, Lamborghini, Ferrari and Porsche doing their stuff and Pagani, Koenigsegg and the rest of the boutique marques doing theirs, Bugatti have the hyper-Lucy art market all to themselves.

I always think of any of the main player manufactures being millionaire’s cars.

Bugatti, they’re for billionaires. The one off custom yacht of the automotive world.
Tbh i think the interior looks cheap, esp for a 2000kg car costing 5mill.

McLaren's Speedtail has allready gatecrashed this hyper lux market.

Simon Cowell's "only" worth 500mill so no billionaire.

Looks better than the Chiron though.

Onehp

1,617 posts

283 months

Monday 27th August 2018
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Escy said:
A modified Audi R8 V8 ticks most of those boxes except for the weight which isn't really realistic these days. They are 1500kg, convert it to RWD, replace the wheels, seats and exhaust with something lighter and you'd probably be at around 1350kg
That is a tad optimistic 1350kg, you will hardly gain that much by removing all those parts...
A Mclaren 720s is 1420kg kerb, weighed irl with a full tank. That is pretty neat for the power available and also explains why they are so bloody quick... I think they are the most suitable party to make a cmoose puristic driver machine, they 'just' need to put a lighter higher revving NA engine in and lighten all parts that aren't loaded as much with the resulting lower power, spiralling down weight a bit more. But afaik they aren't into that kind of sports cars... But some british A110 competition, a mini McLaren would be great...

Oz83

688 posts

139 months

Monday 27th August 2018
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Stunning. I'll take two please. 'Sans' French flags.

uberzero

2 posts

175 months

Monday 27th August 2018
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noble12345 said:
Tbh i think the interior looks cheap, esp for a 2000kg car costing 5mill.

McLaren's Speedtail has allready gatecrashed this hyper lux market.
Considering the car is track focused, it is hardly comparable to Speedtail (waiting for the reveal and only 106 to be built)
The hard lesson is avoiding underestimating the weight. Nature taught us with orcas extreme agile and speed despite their weight.

mrfunex

545 posts

174 months

Monday 27th August 2018
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As an engineering exercise, great. Fascinating to push the boundaries of what a car can be capable of.

As a car, pointless. These won’t get driven much, raced or even viewed by almost all unless on a TV/computer screen. Boring.

As mentioned before, a useable, baby Maclaren to rival the Boxster; now I’m interested!

daytona111r

769 posts

204 months

Monday 27th August 2018
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I don’t think I’ll ever get excited by a VW Bugatti. Ego-driven bling. Gimme an EB110 any day over this.

SevenR

242 posts

164 months

Monday 27th August 2018
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LOL!!
if you don't like this, you don't like cars. Anyone who says they don't like it....would you say no to a shot then? I'll bet you if you were out for a passenger ride you'd be singing its praises when you came out it with your face all a glow.